MajorAhrens Loc: Myrtle Beach

Carolyn ma'am, I agree. The bible said it would be like this in the end times. Calling good evil and evil good. What should make every American shutter is this mayor wants the pastors to turn in their sermons to see if they are saying anything negative against the state. If people want to act like perverts in their home go for it but when you demand our christian preachers to turn over their sermons its for intimidation only. This lesbian is opening a pandoras box that is going to backfire on the whole lot of em and its all because of reprobate mind.

Rev. Elizabeth

As a straight widow with children and grandchildren I'm more concerned in living my life as Jesus taught. To respect others that are different in views, life choices and be the only Bible others might read. Your fears set up dangerous mind sets for our young people. You judge outware appearances, God judges the heart. I might not like your viewsor opinions but will fight for your right to express them.

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Apparently you do not believe that predators would use the idea that men are now welcome in the women's washroom to their advantage. I have spent my lifetime working with boys who have been molested by predators so I am not that naive. Why would you for one minute imagine that only men in the process of "becoming " women would use the women's facilities? I would suggest that you talk to the police in a couple of years and find out what the assault statistics have become.

MajorAhrens Loc: Myrtle Beach

Rev. Elizabeth ma'am, if your a true Rev. then your first line is to teach that the word of GOD is TRUTH. GOD said you shall not lie with man as with woman it is an abomination. That's the same as poking your finger in GODS eye. And I did fight for your right to say what you want. And I would do it again ma'am.

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Rev. Elizabeth

Thank you for your service to our country. Hebrews 8:7 states "For if the first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
13-in that he saith, a new covenant, he hath made the first old. NOW THAT WHICH DECAYETH AND WAXETH OLD IS READY TO VANISH AWAY.

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Apparently you intentionally missed my point Heterosexual predators would take advantage of the law that allows those with gender dysphoria to use the bathroom for the opposite sex. homosexual predators would be loitering about in the men's room or in mall arcades, or picking up young teenage hitch hikers , not in women's bathrooms.

On your statement above, if I am not misinterpreting you, you are saying that the commandment that intercourse is for married couples only, other wise it is a sin, is no longer valid. And that the injunction that men should not have sex with men is really a rule that God made a mistake in making. On an earlier post I asked you if because of your believing that heterosexual, homosexual, and trans sexual are all equally valid expressions of sexual behavior you believe that "thou shalt not commit adultery" should be removed from the commandments. As I interpret your comments the answer to those questions is "yes". If I am wrong please explain how you can incorporate the two concepts. Thank you.

Rev. Elizabeth

Sin and evil are in this world and if that person is going to do atrasatities against others they will always find away. This law will not make it easier to do that. We all need to be aware of our surrounding.
Marriage for the Gays are the same faithfully committed relationship for straights. The heart and actions are judged. Why do you think a couple in love and committed to each other are any different just because it a same sex union? Unfortunately most think that all LGBTQ'S are just out for lust. Lust just like lying, stealing,and adultery is not a virtue God would except straight or Gay. Please use common sence when reading God's word. Most people choose a standard of righteous principals for their life to be happy. These humans are no different. Have you ever been around a Same sex couple? They are just like any other married couple, But their devotion to each other is a daily commitment, a bond to face hatred, bigotry and the right to live their lives with the love of their souls.
Society has to change with the new understanding of the norms of the minority. If it hasn't we would still believe the earth is only 6000 years old, interracial marriages are a sin. Blacks are the mark of Cann. Rich are better than the poor and should control the masses. God in His infinite wisdom gave humans free will and a brain to learn from. Things are changing for a more inclusive society. LOVE AND ACCEPTANCE for all is God's will if not He would not have given the Spirit of so many of us Christians to stand up to the rights of ( so called) evil actions.

carolyn

For God's sake! How can anyone, except one of the weirdo's that practice such sick actions, stand up for these queer ideas and practices? This country is going to hell in a hand cart and people like you are the cart pushers. And you have the audacity to say my post is inflammatory?

Why don't you queers go back into the closets where you belong? We normal people do not think these sick acts are in any way keeping up with normalcy. And we sure as hell don't believe you should be getting special privileges, even if both the do-do's in the White House are queer too.

carolyn

You sign yourself as a minister? You are about as far away from being a man of God than Obummer himself. Evidently you don't know the Bible because if you did, you would know that the Bible certainly does not condone Queerdom.

Rev. Elizabeth

Your right, I'm not a man of God. I'm female. And your interpretation of what God's word is your right. God condemned the lust, self serving and adulterous actions of thoses who were having same sex. Not the love and devotion between the two. Just because the Holy Spirit revealed to me the truth in scriptures , doesn't give you the right to judge my faith or my commitment to My God. You can think what you want but when you attract me on what I believe your are no better than the Pharisees.

This is the only life we get and EVERYONE has a journey they wish to accomplish goal, be happy and be true to themselves.
That your Bible and your warped hateful misunderstandings and don't try to FORCE your beliefs on to others. I will support the LGBTQ'S rights to live in a world of equality and respect. I'll treat each individually based on their character, not because of who they sleep with.
I don't judge, I observer their kindness, integrity and actions just like adon't condone lying, adultery, stealing or prejudice in any race, culture

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The claim that "same sex marriage promotes conservative values" then needs to be examined. The data for this section comes from Stanley Kurtz in The end of Marriage in Scandinavia" and "Slipping Toward Scandinavia" Once the government endorses the idea that marriage is just a legal contract, between between consenting adults of any gender, then marriage will no longer be seen as a prerequisite for children. Marriage then is seen as nothing more than a coupling. " Gay rights advocate Andrew Sullivan sees it that way now. He writes that "coupling-not procreation- is what civil marriage is. In that case more couples will decide there is no value to marriage, go through the bother of getting married just to have children. Why tie yourself to one person if you don't need to. Having five children by five different sires is the result of such an attitude. That is damaging to children because the coupling is seldom permanent and people in that kind of arrangement break up at a rate three to five times as high as married couples.There is no question that liberalized marriage laws change our attitudes about the necessity of a permanent relationship to raise children. Only 37 percent of people in countries with same sex marriage laws think they should marry if they want children, while 60 per cent of people in countries without same sex marriage laws think that marriage should be part of the equation.
Furthermore, homosexual activists are fighting to change marriage laws because they know there is a causal between law and behavior. Activists like Sullivan and Signorile have admitted they don;t want to change the law so that they can get married, but because they know that a change in the law will change the attitudes about marriage and homosexuality for all of society, as it is an attempt to validate homosexual behavior by marriage even though in Norway where same sex marriage has been legal for twenty years only about two percent of eligible homosexuals have married.
Blankenthorn and Kurtz, who are both researchers in the subject say "one can believe in same sex marriage . One can believe that every child deserves a mother and a father. One cannot believe both"
Most people believe that promiscuity is bad for the body and corrosive toward the soul. If they are right about that, them allowing homosexual couples to enter lifetime monogamy ought to be desirable"
If the love between homosexuals is spousal in nature, as the advocates of same sex marriage claim, we would then expect it to be as exclusive as heterosexual marriage. But if the primary interest is sexual, then the other person is replaceable. Lets compare the two the spousal and the promiscuous. Researcher Dr. Diggs writes that "the most extensive survey of sex in America found that a vast majority of heterosexual married couples are faithful while the marriage is intact. The survey further found that 94 percent of married people and 75percent of co habiting people (both groups heterosexual) had only one partner in the previous year. Dr. Satinover, who extensively researched homosexual behavior, cites a study done by two homosexual men found that of the 156 homosexual pairs only seven had maintained sexual fidelity for one year or more., and that of the hundred couples that had been together for more than five years, non had maintained sexual fidelity. So much for fostering virtue.

The discussion of homosexual couples being good for the children, there is much debate. Most activists will not admit that there are differences between men and women particularly in their approach to child raising. the biological differences in both sexes mandate the differences. Two men or two women are not as good as one of each for raising sound stable children who understand the emotional needs of both sexes. There was a man on OPP whose name was Rod Riddle. He and his "husband" adopted two boys who were unrelated to either adult or to each other. When the boys were around fifteen each announced that they were homosexual just like their parents. I still think that is rather odd, that two homosexual men would adopt two children and that each would be part of the two or three percent of men who are homosexual. What are the odds of that?

Some months ago I had a thread Brian has three daddies with information on the medical and abuse risks of homosexual adoption that were very very different from the "children are better raised by two same sex people than being raised by their biological parents which is often the claim by LGBTQ activists..

carolyn

I would like to know what denomination this Rev. preaches. It must be very close to the church of Satin.

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During Sand Creek High School's Friday night football game, 16-year-old transgender student Scarlett Lenh was crowned 2014 homecoming princess by majority vote, reports Colorado Springs' Gazette.com.

Lenh, born Andy Lenh, began "identifying" himself as a "female transgender" just this year, and only began dressing like a girl this week. But for Friday's homecoming, he beat out three female candidates -- two of whom were said to be "extremely supportive" (with the other reportedly "really upset").

There was mixed reaction from parents and students, but the school stands behind the decision. A district representative released a statement:

The leaders at Sand Creek High School and in District 49 respect the decision of the Scorpion student body in electing their homecoming court. Our board policy sets the standard that we do not exclude any person from participating in any program or activity on the basis of gender identity and gender expression.

Lenh said one of his friends had suggested he run for homecoming princess but did not think he would be nominated. He said it was something he has been hoping for since becoming a freshman, and now that he won, he says, "It really matters to me."

Some students say Lenh isn't taking it as seriously as he is making out. One said that this is just a recent thing he's been doing, while another said, "He's only cross-dressing."

Yet, the school is allowing him to use the girls' bathroom, and when a grandmother of a female student complained to the principal, she was told her granddaughter should leave the restroom if she feels uncomfortable sharing it with Lenh.

The grandmother told The Gazette about her meeting with the principal:

I suggested [Lenh] go to a nongender-specific restroom, whether it be in the office or the teachers' lounge. I said, 'So my granddaughter can put on jeans and say I feel like a boy today' and go into the boys' restroom?'

But this school is simply following suit of a neighboring district which in 2013, allowed a "transgender first-grader" to use the girls' restroom at Eagleside Elementary. This young boy's parents went to court over the issue and argued that not allowing their child to use the opposite gender's restroom "creates an environment that is objectively and subjectively hostile, intimidating or offensive."

"I see it as a great thing," Lenh said. "I hope it helps people understand if they want to be something and work hard at it, it can happen."

do you realize that this person is saying if you pretend something hard enough that you come to believe it is true, than it becomes true Tather a combination of "When you wish upon a star" and "the emperor has no clothes but everyone is too afraid to tell him he is naked" This LGBTQ concept of there being innumerable different genders depending on how you want to define your self and we have to pretend all are valid. If your six year old believed he was a dog would you allow him to eat dog food out of a dish, and go get him his rabies shot because the law requires that dogs have rabies shots, or would you find him help to realize he is a little boy and not a golden retriever. Why is it different then if a child thinks he is an old woman, or a girl on Monday and thursday but a boy two other days and no gender at all for the other three days. how much more cruel can we be to our kids than not to help them with this identity problem? Yes, I know there are children who commit suicide because they think they are some other combination of genders rather than the sex (male or female) that their genitals and DNA say they are. According to several studies I have seen after sex change operations the person still has the same degree of depression he had before and the port operative suicide rate for attempted or successful suicides is about thirty percent within the first five years post surgery.If the problems behind the gender dysphoria are solved the depression overcome the person has no more desire to commit suicide than the average suicide or attempted suicide rate. Instead we cover up the mental problems behind the desire to be the other sex and claim that those kids are "normal well adjusted children" Of course one of the other problems is that we don;t help children realize that within the normal male, female genders there are variations of behavior that should not change the definition of which sex you are. That is what the schools and churches should deal with, not by redefining gender to absurdity but by explaining to children the variations that are within the norm of behavior for either sex. that does not include saying boys in dresses and makeup are suddenly girls and can be homecoming princesses. Just who was the homecoming prince that had to dance with him-her at homecoming.?

Mr Shako Loc: Colo Spgs

A descendant of Col Chivington?