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Oct 14, 2014 13:55:41   #
Blacksheep
 
CarolSeer2016 wrote:
Nah, he's not so bad!


Ahhh, such trust.....

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Oct 14, 2014 14:45:53   #
CarolSeer2016
 
RockKnutne wrote:
Laws do resemble closing barn doors rather late. In addition, laws are like good advice CS, wise folk don't need it and, fools never heed it.

I think legislation is more like an Attorney Relief Act. It keeps them earning and not having to ask everyone questions like,

You want fries with that?"

:XD: :XD: :XD:


Are you from Oklahoma, Rock? The CS part of your remark reminds me so much of my Okie relatives!

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Oct 14, 2014 14:46:33   #
CarolSeer2016
 
Blacksheep wrote:
Ahhh, such trust.....


I think that's why I need a man--didn't get much man-sense in my feminine makeup!

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Oct 14, 2014 14:46:33   #
CarolSeer2016
 
Blacksheep wrote:
Ahhh, such trust.....


I think that's why I need a man--didn't get much man-sense in my feminine makeup!

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Oct 14, 2014 15:06:08   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
CarolSeer2016 wrote:
Seatching, I don't think anyone on this site feels that African-Americans are inept. Most Conservatives feel they are being kept down by Liberal policies, instead of being helped.

I noticed the African-Americans you mention were notable in the past. Why don't you mention Dr. Ben Carson, Thomas Sowell, Larry Elder, Colonel Allen West, Tim Scott, Mia Love, etc. etc. etc. Is it because they are Conservatives?



I think that your last sentence explains it all from the "progressive" perspective.

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Oct 14, 2014 15:27:00   #
CarolSeer2016
 
no propaganda please wrote:
I think that your last sentence explains it all from the "progressive" perspective.


Perhaps so.

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Oct 14, 2014 16:01:49   #
bahmer
 
Searching wrote:
On second thought....see below....just a few.....of some notable African-American inventors.

Benjamin Banneker
(1731-1806)
Born into a family of free blacks in Maryland, Banneker learned the rudiments of reading, writing, and arithmetic from his grandmother and a Quaker schoolmaster. Later he taught himself advanced mathematics and astronomy. He is best known for publishing an almanac based on his astronomical calculations.

Rebecca Cole
(1846-1922)
Born in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Cole was the second black woman to graduate from medical school (1867). She joined Dr. Elizabeth Blackwell, the first white woman physician, in New York and taught hygiene and childcare to families in poor neighborhoods.

Edward Alexander Bouchet
(1852-1918)
Born in New Haven, Connecticut, Bouchet was the first African American to graduate (1874) from Yale College. In 1876, upon receiving his Ph.D. in physics from Yale, he became the first African American to earn a doctorate. Bouchet spent his career teaching college chemistry and physics.


Dr. Daniel Hale Williams
(1856-1931)
Williams was born in Pennsylvania and attended medical school in Chicago, where he received his M.D. in 1883. He founded the Provident Hospital in Chicago in 1891, and he performed the first successful open heart surgery in 1893.

George Washington Carver
(1865?-1943)
Born into slavery in Missouri, Carver later earned degrees from Iowa Agricultural College. The director of agricultural research at the Tuskegee Institute from 1896 until his death, Carver developed hundreds of applications for farm products important to the economy of the South, including the peanut, sweet potato, soybean, and pecan.

Charles Henry Turner
(1867-1923)
A native of Cincinnati, Ohio, Turner received a B.S. (1891) and M.S. (1892) from the University of Cincinnati and a Ph.D. (1907) from the University of Chicago. A noted authority on the behavior of insects, he was the first researcher to prove that insects can hear.

George Washington Carver.....does he at least ring a bell with you? Anyone who has had open heart surgery can say a prayer of thanks for Dr. Williams. Just sayin'.....and the list "does" go on, just in case you're wondering....
On second thought....see below....just a few.....o... (show quote)


Actually I believe that it was LBJ's war on poverty that started the African American's problems and if anything amplified them. It was the idea that an unwed mother would receive more in welfare than a married couple would receive. This started the destruction of the family unit in the black community.

Both parents are needed in a home to really help produce offspring that is both productive and law abiding.

Things that I have noticed in my own family is that mothers are sympathetic to the boys while fathers are sympathetic to the girls. But a home that has both a mother and father will be balanced and thereby teaching the young males how to properly treat a woman and also teaches the females how to properly treat a man.

It teaches etiquette and manners and respect for each other. My son received more spankings and harsh discipline because I knew that one day he would have to be the father. Unfortunately that never materialized but the girls always got a pass from me and my wife cracked down on the girls.

This seems to be missing from the African American one parent home. The boys run scot-free and the girls tend to give the boys free use of their bodies which produces more children to be raised by teen aged mothers.

I don't have the answers but something should be done to encourage the family unit in the black community. Whether this would take a rewriting of welfare to include the father may be one way of doing it. Getting these kids on the right track toward each other as well as the opposite sex would help a lot.

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Oct 14, 2014 16:16:23   #
RockKnutne Loc: Valhöll
 
CarolSeer2016 wrote:
I could give you an explanation for the loss, but you probably wouldn't believe it.

Rock, I think you're looking for a fight!!!


Not no, but El no. That's as in Elway CS. You would have had to grow up under the humiliation of being a Browns fan, to understand why teasing anybody that is a fan of a good NFL team like Denver makes sense.

:wink: :XD: :XD: :XD:

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Oct 14, 2014 16:25:09   #
RockKnutne Loc: Valhöll
 
CarolSeer2016 wrote:
Are you from Oklahoma, Rock? The CS part of your remark reminds me so much of my Okie relatives!


I thought the reference to Denver having a Tennessee quarterback was a dead giveaway Carol. Yankee by birth, southerner by the grace of God, Tennessean because He likes me a lot...

:wink:

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Oct 14, 2014 16:44:26   #
Blacksheep
 
no propaganda please wrote:
I think that your last sentence explains it all from the "progressive" perspective.


Oh my hell sakes, no wonder. You used to present, if you'll pardon the apt expression, yourself as being much more conservative.

You're a Progressive now, eh? :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Oct 14, 2014 16:56:35   #
RockKnutne Loc: Valhöll
 
bahmer wrote:
Actually I believe that it was LBJ's war on poverty that started the African American's problems and if anything amplified them. It was the idea that an unwed mother would receive more in welfare than a married couple would receive. This started the destruction of the family unit in the black community.

Both parents are needed in a home to really help produce offspring that is both productive and law abiding.

Things that I have noticed in my own family is that mothers are sympathetic to the boys while fathers are sympathetic to the girls. But a home that has both a mother and father will be balanced and thereby teaching the young males how to properly treat a woman and also teaches the females how to properly treat a man.

It teaches etiquette and manners and respect for each other. My son received more spankings and harsh discipline because I knew that one day he would have to be the father. Unfortunately that never materialized but the girls always got a pass from me and my wife cracked down on the girls.

This seems to be missing from the African American one parent home. The boys run scot-free and the girls tend to give the boys free use of their bodies which produces more children to be raised by teen aged mothers.

I don't have the answers but something should be done to encourage the family unit in the black community. Whether this would take a rewriting of welfare to include the father may be one way of doing it. Getting these kids on the right track toward each other as well as the opposite sex would help a lot.
Actually I believe that it was LBJ's war on povert... (show quote)


Very good points bahmer, unbiased and not racist at all.

Your views on the need and value of having both mother and father is on the money. Children are sponges, I believe they pay very little attention to verbal instruction well until they're into their 40s but, will imitate what they see from the time they begin to almost crawl.

Single parenting gives the child a rather monocular view of things, while mothers and fathers together provide the child binocular and therefore, the most correct and accurate vision.

Cover one eye for a day or two and see what happens. You can still see out of one eye but, you lose all depth in your field of view. That's why God gave us two eyes, the need for two sexes to make children and, the requirement that mothers and fathers both be around to raise one in the best way possible.

Back before the government got into the sole provider (father) business, if you had children and couldn't take care of them, they were turned over to someone or an agency that would. It wasn't fair maybe but, child welfare trumped parental rights. Once people learned that they could irresponsibly bring children into the world, because they could have all of the pleasure and none of the consequences associated with it, it spawned the birth of the new family in this country. Baby mama, baby and still that rascally uncle that shows up from time to time to spend the night with baby mama, except now, both baby mama & uncle friend wait on the uncle with money to deliver the support check.

I'm really eager to see the results of the government getting into the marriage business, they did so well with parenting, the possibilities are quite mind-numbing, no?

At the end of the day, who gets stuck with paying the bills for immorality and well-meaning bureaucrats? If you said the American taxpayer, give yourself a gold star and then, pay `yo damn bill, uncle is getting needful again.

Sheesh!

:wink:

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