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Oct 7, 2014 16:53:29   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
Seromer wrote:
Really? What are republicans trying to do to the President?


No, the real question is "what is Obama trying to do to the Republican Party?" The Republicans are trying to save this country from being a third world banana republic, like Obama wants. Besides, they have no power...other than the House, and nothing they submit gets any farther than Harry Reid in the Senate. So, you should be asking the opposite question "what is the pathological lying narcissist socialist Obama trying to do to America?"

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Oct 7, 2014 17:15:19   #
Seromer
 
I've asked 2 questions that haven't been answered. You've got stones saying liberals don't answer questions. By the way, GW made us a 3rd world country when he bankrupted us.

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Oct 7, 2014 17:28:39   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
Seromer wrote:
I've asked 2 questions that haven't been answered. You've got stones saying liberals don't answer questions. By the way, GW made us a 3rd world country when he bankrupted us.


And, how did GW bankrupt us? Specifics please.

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Oct 7, 2014 17:31:19   #
faithistheword
 
Seromer wrote:
I don't think any of you who answered are liberals.
Liberal: favorable to progress or reform

All you have done is write disparaging remarks.
Liberal: free from bigotry and propaganda.
:( sadly you are not



OMG!!! Where does one begin?!? I'll start with the fact that that definition was written eons ago--when used to describe Republicans! Today's democrats are NOT liberal, they're insane!! to have voted for barackhussein once was a sin! To have repeated that sin is stupendously ignorant! The economy was (And IS) in the tank; He had been caught in MANY lies; obamacare had fizzled upon introduction; Tarp hadn't worked; He increased the debt ten-fold; people were divided worse than ever in history; He trashed the constitution daily; His appointments are almost ALL Muslims; The country has NEVER been so ill thought of across the world. How can you still think he's been good for the country??

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Oct 7, 2014 17:39:47   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
Seromer wrote:
I've asked 2 questions that haven't been answered. You've got stones saying liberals don't answer questions. By the way, GW made us a 3rd world country when he bankrupted us.


Still waiting for those specifics.

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Oct 7, 2014 18:12:34   #
Seromer
 
2 wars on credit and Medicare D is how GW bankrupted us.

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Oct 7, 2014 18:14:49   #
Seromer
 
2 wars and Medicare part D

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Oct 8, 2014 06:03:46   #
Harpooner1
 
Tasine wrote:
FTA
The way liberals frame issues in narratives undermines conservative’s positions in a subtle way that lets Democrats easily defend their disastrous policies.
Following are 10 examples

10) ObamaCare – At one point, the president embraced the word “ObamaCare”. It is the frame for the Affordable Care Act as “Obama given healthcare”. Then, the website debacle and the lies about “keeping your doctor” and “keeping your plan” began to tarnish the word by proxy. Obama dumped the frame went back to the “Affordable Care Act”. The media quickly followed.

9) Progressives – The “liberal” label has lost its glow, so it is back to “progressive” from Woodrow Wilson’s policies of the early 1900s. They choose “Progressive” because it implies that opponents are regressive. Same hula dance, different grass skirt.

8) Tea Baggers -- The Tea Party is overwhelmingly made of decent Americans who believe they have been Taxed Enough Already (TEA), are called "Tea Baggers" (A sexually offensive term) even by Biden. They are the moral opposite of the crude, law-breaking left’s Occupy Wall Street crowd.

7) Pro-Choice -- The term "pro-choice" frames those who are champion abortion-on-demand as defenders of a woman’s “right” to choose. Maybe the "war on the unborn" would be an effective Republican frame.

For the remainder, see: http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/10/how_liberals_dominate_the_public_debate.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
My usual reminder to readers: All Democrats/Progs are either sociopaths or psychopaths:

Dictionary.com defines sociopath and psychopath thusly:

Sociopath: a person with a psychopathic personality whose behavior is antisocial, often criminal, and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.

Psychopath: a person with a psychopathic personality, which manifests as amoral and antisocial behavior, lack of ability to love or establish meaningful personal relationships, extreme egocentricity, failure to learn from experience, etc.
FTA br The way liberals frame issues in narratives... (show quote)


Have you ever heard a Democrat make an honest proposal/speech?
Now, I don't lump all of them in with each other, but, I get this comes from the top down. When you have a President that takes lying and deception to greater levels, and, gets away with it, the minions follow suit...No shame, no honesty......They could stop this now and call Obama on his crap. Even Republicans could respect this....But, they don't....Shills, empty souls...Propaganda for the liberal cause...Sad.

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Oct 8, 2014 06:08:42   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Seromer wrote:
Really? What are republicans trying to do to the President?

I can't speak for Republicans, but I believe I can speak for conservatives, What we are trying to do to Obama is to force him to abide by his sworn oath, to follow the law and the Constitution. He does neither, and he is destroying OUR country, not HIS country.

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Oct 8, 2014 06:17:40   #
Harpooner1
 
Tasine wrote:
I can't speak for Republicans, but I believe I can speak for conservatives, What we are trying to do to Obama is to force him to abide by his sworn oath, to follow the law and the Constitution. He does neither, and he is destroying OUR country, not HIS country.


And you know, the more Obama is backed into his own lies and bogus rhetoric, he seems to double down. Imagine if he just took the effort to clean up the mess the government is in as he does to play golf? What is wrong with America being the strongest country on the Earth as we know it now? Nature abhors a vacuum, but, that is what Obama and his policies have left..A vacuum of leadership of nations. It is disheartening to see, but, it is also a stark contrast to what most Americans believe in.
You might not have believed this could happen in one administrations terms, but it is....Happening. Good Americans of all swaths of life don't deserve this pile of crap as a president.

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Oct 8, 2014 06:59:59   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Harpooner1 wrote:
And you know, the more Obama is backed into his own lies and bogus rhetoric, he seems to double down. Imagine if he just took the effort to clean up the mess the government is in as he does to play golf? What is wrong with America being the strongest country on the Earth as we know it now? Nature abhors a vacuum, but, that is what Obama and his policies have left..A vacuum of leadership of nations. It is disheartening to see, but, it is also a stark contrast to what most Americans believe in.
You might not have believed this could happen in one administrations terms, but it is....Happening. Good Americans of all swaths of life don't deserve this pile of crap as a president.
And you know, the more Obama is backed into his ow... (show quote)


You're right! We don't deserve him - for several reasons which I will begin with a short list. We don't deserve him because:
1. He was not vetted before being elected. IF he was, someone really did drop the ball.
2. The DNC pushed him upon us with orders to the media: DO NOT FAIL. MAKE SURE THIS FOOL IS ELECTED.
3. The DNC specializes in corrupting ballot boxes and ballots.
4. The DNC and the media work as one, are inseparable, and neither hold any respect for the rule of law or the US Constitution.
5. All our government bureaus, agencies, etc are now headed by this illegal President's appointees who will be good soldiers for him until the bitter end, and NO ONE IN GOVERNMENT SEEMS TO CARE. Our chief law enforcement officer is lawless and openly biased and has no business even being in law enforcement, let alone the position he has held for too many years.
6. The asylum is being run by the insane inmates - and all the normal people are bowing to them.
7. It's been in the making for years now, but this "President" has made it O.K. for the communists to exit their closets and reek havoc on the American way of life in an attempt to turn America into a tyrannical master. It's as though this administration is doing its damnedest to "SHOW WHITEY" why he was wrong decades ago.
No one in his administration has ever known an American slave owner. None of us has.

We Americans do not deserve this "administration". It's behavior would be frowned upon if it were administering a prison filled with mass murderers.

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Oct 8, 2014 08:13:38   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
Seromer wrote:
2 wars on credit and Medicare D is how GW bankrupted us.


Wow! You're really digging! Let's see, two wars, which at the most, and I'll use the left's exaggerated numbers, $2 trillion. Latest numbers on Medicare D are less than the projected cost of $150 billion in 2030...last number I saw was for 2010 at $16 billion (1% GDP, a drop in the bucket). Now, it doesn't take a math genius to figure out that those numbers don't come near bankrupting the country. Your home boy Obama has added close to $8 trillion to the national debt (in 6 years) already, and Bush added $5.5 trillion in 8 years. Now, if it only takes $2 trillion over 5-6 years to bankrupt the country, what has Obama's $8 trillion over 6 years done!

Okay, here is a history lesson, and economics lesson for you. It was the housing bubble bursting that brought this economy to it's knees...plus a run on the banks (thus TARP, and Obama got half of that), which some say was caused by George Soros. But, the killer was the housing bubble...Freddy Mac and Fanny Mae out of control. The Republicans back in 2004 tried to stop these toxic loans, and tried to bring Freddy Mac and Fanny Mae back under control, but your side, the Democrats filibustered it. Sen McCain back in 2004 predicted what would happen in a speech on the Senate floor, and guess what? It did happen.

Nice try pal, but that dog don't hunt. Another factor is electing a Democrat House in 2006. The deficit was down to around $160 billion, until the new Democrat House started spending. Then, the crash.

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Oct 8, 2014 08:26:01   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
JMHO wrote:
Wow! You're really digging! Let's see, two wars, which at the most, and I'll use the left's exaggerated numbers, $2 trillion. Latest numbers on Medicare D are less than the projected cost of $150 billion in 2030...last number I saw was for 2010 at $16 billion (1% GDP, a drop in the bucket). Now, it doesn't take a math genius to figure out that those numbers don't come near bankrupting the country. Your home boy Obama has added close to $8 trillion to the national debt (in 6 years) already, and Bush added $5.5 trillion in 8 years. Now, if it only takes $2 trillion over 5-6 years to bankrupt the country, what has Obama's $8 trillion over 6 years done!

Okay, here is a history lesson, and economics lesson for you. It was the housing bubble bursting that brought this economy to it's knees...plus a run on the banks (thus TARP, and Obama got half of that), which some say was caused by George Soros. But, the killer was the housing bubble...Freddy Mac and Fanny Mae out of control. The Republicans back in 2004 tried to stop these toxic loans, and tried to bring Freddy Mac and Fanny Mae back under control, but your side, the Democrats filibustered it. Sen McCain back in 2004 predicted what would happen in a speech on the Senate floor, and guess what? It did happen.

Nice try pal, but that dog don't hunt. Another factor is electing a Democrat House in 2006. The deficit was down to around $160 billion, until the new Democrat House started spending. Then, the crash.
Wow! You're really digging! Let's see, two wars, ... (show quote)



Great explanation, concise and easy to follow. Thanks. Now we are waiting for the "progressives" to respond.

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Oct 8, 2014 08:43:02   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
JMHO wrote:
Wow! You're really digging! Let's see, two wars, which at the most, and I'll use the left's exaggerated numbers, $2 trillion. Latest numbers on Medicare D are less than the projected cost of $150 billion in 2030...last number I saw was for 2010 at $16 billion (1% GDP, a drop in the bucket). Now, it doesn't take a math genius to figure out that those numbers don't come near bankrupting the country. Your home boy Obama has added close to $8 trillion to the national debt (in 6 years) already, and Bush added $5.5 trillion in 8 years. Now, if it only takes $2 trillion over 5-6 years to bankrupt the country, what has Obama's $8 trillion over 6 years done!

Okay, here is a history lesson, and economics lesson for you. It was the housing bubble bursting that brought this economy to it's knees...plus a run on the banks (thus TARP, and Obama got half of that), which some say was caused by George Soros. But, the killer was the housing bubble...Freddy Mac and Fanny Mae out of control. The Republicans back in 2004 tried to stop these toxic loans, and tried to bring Freddy Mac and Fanny Mae back under control, but your side, the Democrats filibustered it. Sen McCain back in 2004 predicted what would happen in a speech on the Senate floor, and guess what? It did happen.

Nice try pal, but that dog don't hunt. Another factor is electing a Democrat House in 2006. The deficit was down to around $160 billion, until the new Democrat House started spending. Then, the crash.
Wow! You're really digging! Let's see, two wars, ... (show quote)


The housing bubble - and GW, on some 13 occasions warned the finance committee and/or congress that there was trouble afoot with Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. Democrats Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd, both rats of the stinkiest order, denied there was trouble and blithely continued doing their damage. If anyone doubting same would care to google video of GW warning and the returning democrat opposition, the videos are available. I probably should keep a few, but haven't. Democrats are SO uninformed it is pathetic they are allowed to vote.

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Oct 8, 2014 15:24:18   #
faithistheword
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Great explanation, concise and easy to follow. Thanks. Now we are waiting for the "progressives" to respond.



I agree wholeheartedly!! JMHO did a fantastic job making his points. I'm getting REAL tired of the dems dumping all barackhussein's Buffoonery on Pres. Bush!

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