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Oct 3, 2014 08:17:14   #
Harpooner1
 
oldroy wrote:
Again a Republican appointed district court judge has pointed out an unconstitutional part of Obamacare and it could be the end of that hated law. There is already a House passed replacement for Obamacare and if the case reaches the Supreme Court and is upheld then all we need is for a newly elected Republican majority in the Senate to approve it and Obama would have to sign it for reasons few on the left will accept. We need to elect a new Senate so as to learn about the bill that the House has already passed from the Senate or even from the media who have, so far ignored the House bill.

Most of you of the left will not need to waste you time watching this video since the man is so unacceptable to all of you.

http://www.dickmorris.com/beginning-end-obamacare-dick-morris-tv-lunch-alert/
Again a Republican appointed district court judge ... (show quote)


Well, Old Roy.....I'm not going to get into much about Obamacare and socialized healthcare...No..I'm not....
I will give food for thought....Last Sunday, in a country in the EU, Switzerland, to be exact...They had a national vote on Government healthcare....65% NO!.....And, they make such good watches!
So, What do they know that we don't?

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Oct 3, 2014 08:51:17   #
pixie
 
it never ceases to amaze me just how much the left loons and the dems in general have obummers back no matter what that FOOL does to america!!!....there was nothing wrong with our healthcare system to begin with!...if its not broke DON'T FIX IT!!!.........THE DEMS ARE DONE FOR IN NOVEMBER'S ELECTION!!!

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Oct 3, 2014 09:01:37   #
Harpooner1
 
pixie wrote:
it never ceases to amaze me just how much the left loons and the dems in general have obummers back no matter what that FOOL does to america!!!....there was nothing wrong with our healthcare system to begin with!...if its not broke DON'T FIX IT!!!.........THE DEMS ARE DONE FOR IN NOVEMBER'S ELECTION!!!


Well Pixie....I hope you are RIGHT!
And, if the senate becomes an R majority, i hope they don't screw it up!
It would be a perfect opportunity to bring this nation back to an even keel. One can only hope, at this point.

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Oct 3, 2014 09:03:10   #
pixie
 
Harpooner1 wrote:
Well Pixie....I hope you are RIGHT!
And, if the senate becomes an R majority, i hope they don't screw it up!
It would be a perfect opportunity to bring this nation back to an even keel. One can only hope, at this point.


agree..... :thumbup:

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Oct 3, 2014 09:36:31   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Harpooner1 wrote:
Well Pixie....I hope you are RIGHT!
And, if the senate becomes an R majority, i hope they don't screw it up!
It would be a perfect opportunity to bring this nation back to an even keel. One can only hope, at this point.

My biggest fear is McCain doing one of his stunts to grab cameras.

I can see him starting a 'gang of 8' or whatever to make some way to keep Obamacare and bask in the glory that the MSM will shine upon him.

Sorry.. It's a nightmare I just had to share....

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Oct 3, 2014 12:59:17   #
Comment Loc: California
 
grumbledog wrote:
stupider Dave

How many people lose their insurance because of ACA

on a personal note my wife's premium when from $525 to $49 dollars(after subsidies)

that real savings


grumbledog: Does it make you feel good that your neighbors are paying the biggest cost of or wife's health insurance. You love Obuma's care because you steal from your neighbors to satisfy your greed. That Dum o crap health bill is nothing less that theft by force by the government for the benefits of you. I believe that you are a tick on the back of the dog instead of the dog. You have to suck the blood from your neighbors to survive. You are getting a $500 check every month at the expense of others. Do you feel good about robbing your neighbors? You may have no remorse about taking money from the government because the government isn't human. But who owns government? With respect to the Unaffordable Care act the government is the demorat's party made up of welfare, illegals, graveyard residents and the likes. Not one republican voted for the bill. It's pure and simple communism, socialism. Taking money from high achievers and giving it to low achievers.

I have a problem with your 8 million free loaders signed on the government sow. I head that one third didn't pay their premiums and thousands more piglets didn't prove that they qualified for a gift from the robber sow. Thousand more misstated their income and are being sent big tax bills. You must have been a communist=socialist your entire life, a low achiever, who can't survive without a commune.

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Oct 3, 2014 14:04:29   #
Striker Loc: Arizona Rockies
 
Well said, Bill. :thumbup: :thumbup:
No Rulers should be allowed to tax/steal from real people to redistribute to the low-life. In the real world those would be imprisoned for that very same ruse :!: The trouble with that, tho, is that we'll still have to fork out to support the useless even when they're behind bars!

Billhuggins wrote:
grumbledog: Does it make you feel good that your neighbors are paying the biggest cost of or wife's health insurance. You love Obuma's care because you steal from your neighbors to satisfy your greed. That Dum o crap health bill is nothing less that theft by force by the government for the benefits of you. I believe that you are a tick on the back of the dog instead of the dog. You have to suck the blood from your neighbors to survive. You are getting a $500 check every month at the expense of others. Do you feel good about robbing your neighbors? You may have no remorse about taking money from the government because the government isn't human. But who owns government? With respect to the Unaffordable Care act the government is the demorat's party made up of welfare, illegals, graveyard residents and the likes. Not one republican voted for the bill. It's pure and simple communism, socialism. Taking money from high achievers and giving it to low achievers.

I have a problem with your 8 million free loaders signed on the government sow. I head that one third didn't pay their premiums and thousands more piglets didn't prove that they qualified for a gift from the robber sow. Thousand more misstated their income and are being sent big tax bills. You must have been a communist=socialist your entire life, a low achiever, who can't survive without a commune.
grumbledog: Does it make you feel good that your n... (show quote)

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Oct 3, 2014 15:31:43   #
Apache
 
Why and how did your wife qualify for subsidies. If the plan is not good enough to not need to subsidize anyone it would be good. As it is, IT IS A POOR PLAN. There should not be subsidies. There was state,federal and public assistance for ANYONE who couldn't get insurance before the ACA.

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Oct 3, 2014 15:32:27   #
Apache
 
Why and how did your wife qualify for subsidies. If the plan is not good enough to not need to subsidize anyone it would be good. As it is, IT IS A POOR PLAN. There should not be subsidies. There was state,federal and public assistance for ANYONE who couldn't get insurance before the ACA.

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Oct 3, 2014 18:44:30   #
Ricktloml
 
Dave wrote:
Again, you're minimally informed status is continued. As to the 8 million who now have insurance that didn't - they are either subsidized in part or in total - if that isn't welfare there is a minimally informed definition of welfare


And a lot of those eight million are those who had their perfectly good policies, that Obama knowingly lied about them being able to keep, canceled. They had to replace their old policies with ones that cost more, had higher deductibles, and less services. Pretty rich claiming the Republicans aren't talking about Obamacare, it was built on calculated lies, told repeatedly, the problem is Obama lies so often, and about so many things, there isn't really enough time to cover all of them. And Obama NEVER stops lying, it's the only thing he is really competent at

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Oct 3, 2014 23:06:11   #
meekep
 
Dave wrote:
When did Republicans de-regulate banks? How about when the de-regulated financial instructions (sic) - I guess I missed both of those events.


That's unfortunate. It was a bi-partisan effort with the Republicans supporting Bill Cliinton reversing the Glass-Steagall Act amongst other things...it was all Wall Street banditry after that.
http://www.openthegovernment.org/sites/default/files/otg/dereg-timeline-2009-07.pdf

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Oct 4, 2014 14:29:16   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Dave wrote:
Perhaps you missed the reality that Obamacare was virtually written by those insurance companies you so hate


I wonder how many of the "Obamacare lovers" even know the make up of the group that wrote that law behind closed doors in Harry Reid offices. I will bet this one doesn't know that there were three insurance leaders in constant attendance. That would be nearly the same number as Senators who took part.

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Oct 4, 2014 14:37:29   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Billhuggins wrote:
grumbledog: Does it make you feel good that your neighbors are paying the biggest cost of or wife's health insurance. You love Obuma's care because you steal from your neighbors to satisfy your greed. That Dum o crap health bill is nothing less that theft by force by the government for the benefits of you. I believe that you are a tick on the back of the dog instead of the dog. You have to suck the blood from your neighbors to survive. You are getting a $500 check every month at the expense of others. Do you feel good about robbing your neighbors? You may have no remorse about taking money from the government because the government isn't human. But who owns government? With respect to the Unaffordable Care act the government is the demorat's party made up of welfare, illegals, graveyard residents and the likes. Not one republican voted for the bill. It's pure and simple communism, socialism. Taking money from high achievers and giving it to low achievers.

I have a problem with your 8 million free loaders signed on the government sow. I head that one third didn't pay their premiums and thousands more piglets didn't prove that they qualified for a gift from the robber sow. Thousand more misstated their income and are being sent big tax bills. You must have been a communist=socialist your entire life, a low achiever, who can't survive without a commune.
grumbledog: Does it make you feel good that your n... (show quote)


grumbledog talking about how great UCA is never stops to think about what it did to millions of people who got their old policies back at much higher rates. My son (28 at the time) was dropped because his policy didn't fit UCA rules and later was taken back with about a $30 monthly raise in cost with so many things on his policy that he didn't need. Things like childhood dental care and other childhood things (he doesn't have any children and isn't married) and of course all that care for women was added and he still isn't married and therefore childless.

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Oct 4, 2014 14:39:23   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Harpooner1 wrote:
Well, Old Roy.....I'm not going to get into much about Obamacare and socialized healthcare...No..I'm not....
I will give food for thought....Last Sunday, in a country in the EU, Switzerland, to be exact...They had a national vote on Government healthcare....65% NO!.....And, they make such good watches!
So, What do they know that we don't?


They know about the experiences of the UK with socialized medicine and what has happened here in the good old USSA with the beginning of socialized medicine.

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Oct 4, 2014 15:44:40   #
pixie
 
Super Dave wrote:
My biggest fear is McCain doing one of his stunts to grab cameras.

I can see him starting a 'gang of 8' or whatever to make some way to keep Obamacare and bask in the glory that the MSM will shine upon him.

Sorry.. It's a nightmare I just had to share....


as far as old mccain goes we alllllll know he's nothing but a rino! soo save your biggest fear for obummer!..he's satans spawn!... :twisted:

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