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Sep 24, 2014 08:15:33   #
Singularity
 
Trooper745 wrote:
I know its not scientific evidence, but every time I see SNAP card proffered in my local grocery, it appears to be held by a sloppy fat bitch in the 200+ pound weight class.


Excerpt from:
http://institutefornaturalhealing.com/2011/04/the-economics-of-obesity-why-are-poor-people-fat/

The Real Reason Why Poor People Are Fat

Professor and obesity researcher, Dr. Adam Drewnowski set out to determine why income is the most reliable predictor of obesity in the U.S. To do this, he took a hypothetical dollar to the grocery store. His goal was to purchase as many calories as possible per dollar.



What he found is that he could buy well over 1,000 calories of cookies or potato chips. But his dollar would only buy 250 calories of carrots. He could buy almost 900 calories of soda… but only 170 calories of orange juice.

If you are poor and hungry, you are obviously going to buy the cheapest calories you can find. And in today’s world, the cheapest calories come from junk foods – whether those foods are found at the grocery store, the gas station, or in the fast food restaurant, conveniently located just down the street.

But this raises another question. How can industrially-processed foods and their associated marketing costs be so much cheaper than real, whole foods produced from water, seeds and sunlight?

In a New York Times article, author Michael Pollan asks this very question…

“Compared with a bunch of carrots, a package of Twinkies is a highly complicated, high-tech piece of manufacture, involving no fewer than 39 ingredients, many themselves elaborately manufactured, as well as the packaging and a hefty marketing budget. So how can the supermarket possibly sell a pair of these synthetic cream-filled pseudo-cakes for less than a bunch of roots?”

Pollan goes on to answer his own question…

“The Twinkie is basically a clever arrangement of carbohydrates and fats teased out of corn, soybeans and wheat — three of the five commodity crops that the farm bill supports, to the tune of some $25 billion a year.

The primary reason that lower-income people are more overweight is because the unhealthiest and most fattening foods are the cheapest. If you were broke and had just three dollars to spend on food today, would you buy a head of broccoli or a Super Value Meal with French fries, a cheeseburger and a Coke?

Corporate Welfare makes businesses fat!?!
Corporate Welfare makes businesses fat!?!...

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Sep 24, 2014 08:37:51   #
Singularity
 
Augustus Greatorex wrote:
I suppose it is not an issue for Jews... ?

The Somali community is almost exclusively orphans and widows, political refugees. While the protest may seem improper in asserting possession of food donations, is there no viability in their concerns?


The Jewish prophet Daniel, while a refugee in Babylon, refused to eat the food provided him by the state for religious reasons. He is held in high esteem by many Christians, evidenced by story books and movies for children, etc...

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Sep 24, 2014 09:13:22   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Singularity wrote:
Excerpt from:
http://institutefornaturalhealing.com/2011/04/the-economics-of-obesity-why-are-poor-people-fat/

The Real Reason Why Poor People Are Fat

Professor and obesity researcher, Dr. Adam Drewnowski set out to determine why income is the most reliable predictor of obesity in the U.S. To do this, he took a hypothetical dollar to the grocery store. His goal was to purchase as many calories as possible per dollar.





What he found is that he could buy well over 1,000 calories of cookies or potato chips. But his dollar would only buy 250 calories of carrots. He could buy almost 900 calories of soda… but only 170 calories of orange juice.

If you are poor and hungry, you are obviously going to buy the cheapest calories you can find. And in today’s world, the cheapest calories come from junk foods – whether those foods are found at the grocery store, the gas station, or in the fast food restaurant, conveniently located just down the street.

But this raises another question. How can industrially-processed foods and their associated marketing costs be so much cheaper than real, whole foods produced from water, seeds and sunlight?

In a New York Times article, author Michael Pollan asks this very question…

“Compared with a bunch of carrots, a package of Twinkies is a highly complicated, high-tech piece of manufacture, involving no fewer than 39 ingredients, many themselves elaborately manufactured, as well as the packaging and a hefty marketing budget. So how can the supermarket possibly sell a pair of these synthetic cream-filled pseudo-cakes for less than a bunch of roots?”

Pollan goes on to answer his own question…

“The Twinkie is basically a clever arrangement of carbohydrates and fats teased out of corn, soybeans and wheat — three of the five commodity crops that the farm bill supports, to the tune of some $25 billion a year.

The primary reason that lower-income people are more overweight is because the unhealthiest and most fattening foods are the cheapest. If you were broke and had just three dollars to spend on food today, would you buy a head of broccoli or a Super Value Meal with French fries, a cheeseburger and a Coke?
Excerpt from: br http://institutefornaturalhealing... (show quote)



I would buy neither. I would buy a box of oatmeal, a whole chicken , and some brown rice. That is because I am not to lazy to cook.
Last time I looked at a fast food menu those three things ran around $5.50 anyhow, and kale, one of the most nutritious green vegetables was seventy nine cents a pound. After two meals of the chicken I could use the left overs and make a great soup that would work for a couple of extra meals. When we were first married and still in school we ate like that for two years, it worked fine.

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Sep 24, 2014 09:42:38   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Singularity does have a point.

However, in a poor neighborhood, it's easier to find a liquor store than a grocery store. Alcohol makes you fat.

Not only that, but working 5 days a week helps you lose weight a lot better than lying on the couch waiting for your SNAP card to get filled with money.

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Sep 24, 2014 09:48:36   #
Trooper745 Loc: Carolina
 
no propaganda please wrote:
I would buy neither. I would buy a box of oatmeal, a whole chicken , and some brown rice. That is because I am not to lazy to cook.
Last time I looked at a fast food menu those three things ran around $5.50 anyhow, and kale, one of the most nutritious green vegetables was seventy nine cents a pound. After two meals of the chicken I could use the left overs and make a great soup that would work for a couple of extra meals. When we were first married and still in school we ate like that for two years, it worked fine.
I would buy neither. I would buy a box of oatmeal... (show quote)


Good comment! I was in the process of developing a very similar reply, but yours covers it very well. Most poor people are poor because of pure laziness, not because some corporation made a few million dollars.

I would venture that you and your family, like many people with a good work ethic, will never be "poor", .... no matter how bad things get.

Most so-called poor people in the USA today are on government welfare because they were taught to be "poor" and dependent on government hand-outs by their parents and an enabling leftist government wanting them to remain slave/voters of the left.

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Sep 24, 2014 09:53:32   #
MAD Patriot Loc: lost somewhere in america
 


If they don't like what's free than go hungry. Minnesota Iran should flood there pantreyswith pork

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Sep 24, 2014 10:07:15   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
karpenter wrote:
Thank You, Mr. G !!

Meanwhile:
There Are Muslim 'Charities' All Over
Why Don't They Have Food Pantries ??

Can't Waste Good Rocket Money On Food ??
....Pity ??


Here is something to consider:

Halal foods are blessed by a cleric. They don't do that for free. So if the Islamic poor get food pantries to purchase or individuals to donate halal foods, Muslim clerics get money.

More "rocket fuel," if you will... However Kosher foods and other foodstuffs not containing dietary prohibitions of the Muslim are readily available. I think a much broader concession to have Kosher foods at food pantries is our best interest.

I know you don't. You like to complain and lose and buy "rocket fuel" for global jihad when you lose...

But some of us would prefer not to do that. Perhaps we can reach a compromise in which we don't fund terrorism?

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Sep 24, 2014 10:35:12   #
Singularity
 
no propaganda please wrote:
I would buy neither. I would buy a box of oatmeal, a whole chicken , and some brown rice. That is because I am not to lazy to cook.
Last time I looked at a fast food menu those three things ran around $5.50 anyhow, and kale, one of the most nutritious green vegetables was seventy nine cents a pound. After two meals of the chicken I could use the left overs and make a great soup that would work for a couple of extra meals. When we were first married and still in school we ate like that for two years, it worked fine.
I would buy neither. I would buy a box of oatmeal... (show quote)

Tell us honestly the last time ANY OF YOU MENFOLK PERSONALLY shopped for a week of groceries for a family of four and prepared/cooked all food consumed for four people for a week. Then, how long was it since the next to last time?

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Sep 24, 2014 10:39:06   #
Singularity
 
Augustus Greatorex wrote:
Here is something to consider:

Halal foods are blessed by a cleric. They don't do that for free. So if the Islamic poor get food pantries to purchase or individuals to donate halal foods, Muslim clerics get money.

More "rocket fuel," if you will... However Kosher foods and other foodstuffs not containing dietary prohibitions of the Muslim are readily available. I think a much broader concession to have Kosher foods at food pantries is our best interest.

I know you don't. You like to complain and lose and buy "rocket fuel" for global jihad when you lose...

But some of us would prefer not to do that. Perhaps we can reach a compromise in which we don't fund terrorism?
Here is something to consider: br br Halal foods ... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Sep 24, 2014 10:52:13   #
Singularity
 
Trooper745 wrote:
Good comment! I was in the process of developing a very similar reply, but yours covers it very well. Most poor people are poor because of pure laziness, not because some corporation made a few million dollars.

I would venture that you and your family, like many people with a good work ethic, will never be "poor", .... no matter how bad things get.

Most so-called poor people in the USA today are on government welfare because they were taught to be "poor" and dependent on government hand-outs by their parents and an enabling leftist governme theseoknt wanting them to remain slave/voters of the left.
Good comment! I was in the process of developing ... (show quote)

I'm sure these notions comfort you. But you overerstate the extent of these abuses and fail to accommodate other complicating issues.

In addition, building bigger barns (corporations) instead of caring for the poor is at odds with the instruction manual.



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Sep 24, 2014 11:06:44   #
MAD Patriot Loc: lost somewhere in america
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
Why do you pity them? Did you also pity Hitler and the Nazi's?


Come on now we know they are all just miss understood. Feed them pork

NO. Feed them to the pigs

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Sep 24, 2014 11:16:31   #
Singularity
 
MAD Patriot wrote:
Come on now we know they are all just miss understood. Feed them pork

NO. Feed them to the pigs


Alas, both alternatives strike me as unloving and/or immoral.

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Sep 24, 2014 11:32:59   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Singularity wrote:
Tell us honestly the last time ANY OF YOU MENFOLK PERSONALLY shopped for a week of groceries for a family of four and prepared/cooked all food consumed for four people for a week. Then, how long was it since the next to last time?



I hate to tell you but I do at least half the cooking. SWMBO even admits I am the better cook. I make the bread, do the homemade sausages and bratwurst, make the pizza, and usually do the grilling. She does the veggies, deserts, salads and all the home made soup, so I guess it is evenly divided. Since I was on my own totally from the day I graduated high school until we got married, I had to learn to cook. The dogs do the pre-rinse of the dirty dishes, then she washes and I put away, God does the drying part.

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Sep 24, 2014 11:38:38   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
Augustus Greatorex wrote:
Here is something to consider:
Halal foods are blessed by a cleric.
Facing A Meteorite In Mecca
Blessing In The Name Of The Sky Demon Al-lah (Lucifer)
Quote:
However Kosher foods and other foodstuffs not containing dietary prohibitions of the Muslim are readily available.
Nope.
Don't Fit The Halal Bill For Reasons Cited Above
Quote:
I think a much broader concession to have Kosher foods at food pantries is our best interest.
W-W-What Are You Saying ??
Public Food Pantries Aren't Packed With Kosher Foods ??
Why Is That ??
HAVE YOU NOT JUST MADE THE POINT OF THIS ENTIRE THREAD ??
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They don't do that for free. So if the Islamic poor get food pantries to purchase or individuals to donate halal foods, Muslim clerics get money.
Let Them Set Up Their Own At Mosques And Islamic Centers
Not On The Backs Of Taxpayers, 'Separation of State' And All....
Islam Isn't Even A Religion. It's A Criminal Cult.
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Perhaps we can reach a compromise in which we don't fund terrorism?
Yes, They Have Plenty Of Money For Mosques, Islamic Centers And Immigration
They Have Plenty Of Money To Preach And Send Money For Jihad
Let Them Be 'Merciful And Compassionate' To Their Needy
Instead Of Funding Weapons For Murder

If They Won't Convert From Pislam
They Can Be Vegetarian Pislamites

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Sep 24, 2014 11:54:43   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
Singularity wrote:
Tell us honestly the last time ANY OF YOU MENFOLK PERSONALLY
Tell Us Honestly
What This Has To Do With Providing Halal Food Pantries On Taxpayer Dime.

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