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Sep 8, 2014 09:30:57   #
hprinze Loc: Central Florida
 
mcjwelles wrote:
In spite of the patient, patronizing tone of this 'official' source, Minor VS Happersett is not the sole, immutable precedent as claimed, this is not the established law the anti-Democrat- "propoganda" (loved the misspelling of their flagship word!) ignored according to your citation in my opinion- and I am not even an avid Obama fan- I just like Truth underlined instead of Political Profiteering. Disinforming the American voter is seditious.
The Constitution does not define the phrase natural-born citizen, and various opinions have been offered over time regarding its precise meaning. A 2011 Congressional Research Service report, concerning the current legal status of eligibility for that highest office stated that:
The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term "natural born" citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship "by birth" or "at birth," either by being born "in" the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents; or by being born in other situations meeting legal requirements for U.S. citizenship "at birth." Such term, however, would not include a person who was not a U.S. citizen by birth or at birth, and who was thus born an "alien" required to go through the legal process of "naturalization" to become a U.S. citizen.[1]
The natural-born-citizen clause has been mentioned in passing in several decisions of the United States Supreme Court and lower courts dealing with the question of eligibility for citizenship by birth, but the Supreme Court has never directly addressed the question of a specific presidential or vice-presidential candidate's eligibility as a natural-born citizen.

BTW where was the fervor from the principled Right when the SCOTUS appointed pres. took office???? Could there be a political agenda being played out here rather than just the Settled Law For Dummies motive???
In spite of the patient, patronizing tone of this ... (show quote)


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Your statement is propaganda.

As for the spelling of the word in the video, it was originally disclaimed by the producer, but the disclaimer has been deleted .

The producer explained that he knows how to spell propaganda, but was using a scanned, uneditable image and decided to let it go.

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Sep 8, 2014 09:32:10   #
Turk182
 
LAPhil wrote:
How in the hell do you arrive at this?


United States - US- U.S.-USA-America ( a possession of the Queen of England)

Means: (A) a federal corporation . . . Title 28 USC Section 3002(5) Chapter 176. It is clear that the United States . . . is a corporation . . . 534 FEDERAL SUPPLEMENT 724.

`It is well settled that "United States" et al is a corporation, originally incorporated February 21, 1871 under the name "District of Columbia," 16 Stat. 419 Chapter 62. It was reorganized June 11, 1878; a bankrupt organization per House Joint Resolution 192 on June 5, 1933, Senate Report 93-549, and Executive Orders 6072, 6102, and 6246; a de facto (define de facto) government, originally the ten square mile tract ceded by Maryland and Virginia and comprising Washington D. C., plus the possessions, territories, forts, and arsenals.

The significance of this is that, as a corporation, the United States has no more authority to implement its laws against "We The People" than does Mac Donald Corporations, except for one thing -- the contracts we've signed as surety for our strawman with the United States and the Creditor Bankers. These contracts binding us together with the United States and the bankers are actually not with us, but with our artificial entity, or as they term it "person", which appears to be us but spelled with ALL CAPITAL LETTERS.

It is apparent that everyone has gone to the same school as many of us did and the government lied to us for over 226 years as we learned their laws in their school of fools that are still being taught.

Everyone needs to read the "organic laws" it is in the first law book that the attorneys do not get. If they did they would see that they were breaking there oaths as they are all practicing law outside their jurisdiction. They can only practice their laws on Federal Property.

The same goes for registered voters, most are not legal voters as the say they were born in the United States and the United States is Washington D.C.

Look on your birth certificate and see where you were born.
It probably says you were born in a state. That does not make you born in the United States as the United States is Washington D.C.

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Sep 8, 2014 09:36:21   #
arationofreason
 
I don't care if he was born in a manger in the center of USA. He broke the law by submitting a provably false COB form. That is a crime and shows his disregard for law, morality or any concern for the political process in USA.

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Sep 8, 2014 09:38:51   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
Gene Garman wrote:
Obama won because of lack of voter ID? Will you naysayers ever give up? Is Obama an actual citizen of the USA? Yes, he is, born in Hawaii, as the record in Hawaii shows. Of course Obama is not perfect, but the voters elected Obama, and the Republican Chamber of Commerce Religion Right Party is the major problem. Congress cannot even get a minimum wage increase passed by the House of Representatives because the majority of Republicans could not care less about the poor or ethics, which is why I believe Jesus was, obviously, a Democrat!
Obama won because of lack of voter ID? Will you na... (show quote)


Gene-to associate Jesus with the democrats is indeed a stretch. Unfortunately, democrats in government do not demonstrate any of Jesus' qualities. So, you are merely echoing the democrat talking points-"its all Bush's fault " or "those darn republicans won't let us spend the country into oblivion". Good Luck America !!!

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Sep 8, 2014 09:40:39   #
mcjwelles
 
So you claim. Perhaps you might hazard a guess as to why a major issue like this hasn't see the light of the presently conservatively weighted SCOTUS in 5 years? Did your certainty fail to alert these justices that Article 2 was being ignored out of hand? Could it be that the reality is that minds, probably brighter and better informed than your own, have a differing opinion on this matter? Might the Party of Obama-the-One-Term-President have tried to capitalize on this "glaring" illegal act if your "feelings' were really correct? Perhaps you are simply mistaken. There are a few precedents for that remote possibility...

hprinze wrote:
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Your statement is propaganda

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Sep 8, 2014 09:43:21   #
mcjwelles
 
Not much real info to back that statement up...
arationofreason wrote:
I don't care if he was born in a manger in the center of USA. He broke the law by submitting a provably false COB form. That is a crime and shows his disregard for law, morality or any concern for the political process in USA.

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Sep 8, 2014 09:53:26   #
mcjwelles
 
That was quite the rebuttal! From the 'Dems are godless socialists so Jesus must be a capitalist republican' to "dems 'blame Bush's legacy on Bush' routine... Fiscal responsibility? Please look at who accompanied the US into every financial downturn since before the Great Depression right through the Great Recession? Who brought us to the hallowed ground of First Place World Debtor? Whose administrations have always been elected to pick up the pieces? Really now.

I can produce a far more resounding critique of the recent Democratic failures than you do here. Stick to the truth- it won't let you down as easily as you fear.


quote=Ricko]Gene-to associate Jesus with the democrats is indeed a stretch. Unfortunately, democrats in government do not demonstrate any of Jesus' qualities. So, you are merely echoing the democrat talking points-"its all Bush's fault " or "those darn republicans won't let us spend the country into oblivion". Good Luck America !!![/quote]

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Sep 8, 2014 09:53:36   #
CowboyMilt
 
THERE IS NO LEGAL RECORD IN HAWAII OR ANYWHERE ELSE OF OBAMA'S BIRTH...GET THAT STRAIGHT...WHAT OBAMA DISPLAY AS A LONG FORM OF HAWAII BIRTH CERTIFICATE WAS & IS A FORGED DOCUMENT BY SOMEONE IN THE WHITE HOUSE...PERIOD.

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Sep 8, 2014 09:54:51   #
mcjwelles
 
Maybe it was all those big letters? NOW I SEE! Thanx.
CowboyMilt wrote:
THERE IS NO LEGAL RECORD IN HAWAII OR ANYWHERE ELSE OF OBAMA'S BIRTH...GET THAT STRAIGHT...WHAT OBAMA DISPLAY AS A LONG FORM OF HAWAII BIRTH CERTIFICATE WAS & IS A FORGED DOCUMENT BY SOMEONE IN THE WHITE HOUSE...PERIOD.

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Sep 8, 2014 09:55:16   #
Turk182
 
arationofreason wrote:
I don't care if he was born in a manger in the center of USA. He broke the law by submitting a provably false COB form. That is a crime and shows his disregard for law, morality or any concern for the political process in USA.


You are correct, but if you read the Constitution so are all the Senators and Representatives.

"No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen."

"No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen."

They do not follow their own laws. They can take an oath the support the Constitution of the United States, but if they don't live in the United States (Washington D.C.) or on Federal Property they loose their citizenship.

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Sep 8, 2014 09:56:06   #
jaydee
 
Babsan wrote:
Agree,it was out for all to read if they just had looked.This shows how lazy and stupid some Americans actually are.


Absolutely. Let's quit complaining & pointing out the problem & most of all who to blame.
We have to focus on absolutes only.
Exp. 1-Blobama is a communist Muslim.
2-He is not a US citizen.
3-All communist have to go. (GOP.
rhinoes knows who they are in WH.)
4-They all must be arrested & tried for
treason. Convicted & shot by fireing
squad on WH lawn.
Call um communist to their face. Spit in their face. Don't be nice. They trying to take your liberty either on purpose or through ignorance. The constitution is our freedom. We must adopt "give me liberty or give me death". Life ain't worth living without freedom. You people better get that, and very soon.

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Sep 8, 2014 09:58:28   #
mcjwelles
 
Let me guess: You tried for a part in Death of a Salesman and didn't quite pass muster. Very dramatic though...

jaydee wrote:
Absolutely. Let's quit complaining & pointing out the problem & most of all who to blame.
We have to focus on absolutes only.
Exp. 1-Blobama is a communist Muslim.
2-He is not a US citizen.
3-All communist have to go. (GOP.
rhinoes knows who they are in WH.)
4-They all must be arrested & tried for
treason. Convicted & shot by fireing
squad on WH lawn.
Call um communist to their face. Spit in their face. Don't be nice. They trying to take your liberty either on purpose or through ignorance. The constitution is our freedom. We must adopt "give me liberty or give me death". Life ain't worth living without freedom. You people better get that, and very soon.
Absolutely. Let's quit complaining & pointing ... (show quote)

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Sep 8, 2014 10:06:28   #
mcjwelles
 
And a more specific critique of the innaccurate propaganda I replied with please? My comment on a spelling error was only the irony of the particular error- not a critique of the article. The author is apparently at odds with the opinion of SCOTUS in today's court is all I would suggest here. Or why the silence on this compelling issue?
hprinze wrote:
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Your statement is propaganda.

As for the spelling of the word in the video, it was originally disclaimed by the producer, but the disclaimer has been deleted .

The producer explained that he knows how to spell propaganda, but was using a scanned, uneditable image and decided to let it go.

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Sep 8, 2014 10:11:00   #
Brian Devon
 
jaydee wrote:
Absolutely. Let's quit complaining & pointing out the problem & most of all who to blame.
We have to focus on absolutes only.
Exp. 1-Blobama is a communist Muslim.
2-He is not a US citizen.
3-All communist have to go. (GOP.
rhinoes knows who they are in WH.)
4-They all must be arrested & tried for
treason. Convicted & shot by fireing
squad on WH lawn.
Call um communist to their face. Spit in their face. Don't be nice. They trying to take your liberty either on purpose or through ignorance. The constitution is our freedom. We must adopt "give me liberty or give me death". Life ain't worth living without freedom. You people better get that, and very soon.
Absolutely. Let's quit complaining & pointing ... (show quote)






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What's the matter? Are you cranky because you got the repair bills for your metal detector and hearing aids?

Haaaarrrrruuuummmmppphhhh!!!!!!!!!!!

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Sep 8, 2014 10:21:27   #
mcjwelles
 
Can discuss that with you... Thinking of other 1st term accomplishments too:

1. The first bill President Obama signed was the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, to help women fight back when they don't get equal pay for equal work.

2. His Recovery Act supported millions of jobs and helped to stave off a second Great Depression. (Opinion)

3. He pushed for and won middle-class tax cuts that benefitted every American worker, and saved the typical family $3,600 in taxes over the first four years.

4. President Obama rescued the auto industry, funds mostly paid back now. The American auto industry has added over a quarter of a million jobs since June 2009 -- and they most likely wouldn't exist right now without President Obama's leadership. (Opinion) (I preferred a bailout for individual Americans with those funds however)

5. He doubled funding for Pell Grants, helping to make college more affordable for nearly 10 million families.

6. His student loan reform ended billions in subsidies to banks serving as middlemen and reinvested those savings directly into students.

7. The President established the American Opportunity Tax Credit, worth up to $10,000 over four years of college.

8. His 'Race to the Top Initiative' helped spur nearly every state to raise academic standards.

9. His tax cuts, social-welfare programs, and economic policies lifted nearly 7 million Americans above the federal poverty line in 2010. No wonder that during a major 'recession' those roles would increase- Time now to reduce the potential long-term dependency.

10. President Obama signed 18 tax cuts for small businesses in the first three years perused. Not bad.

11. We've saw 5.2 million new private-sector jobs over the first 31 months.

12. The unemployment rate is at the lowest level since President Obama took office.

13. Health care reform -- passed after decades of failed attempts by every previous President -- still apparently promising to provide affordable health coverage to every American and on target to lower premiums by an average of $2,000 per family by 2019, despite obstructionists ongoing attempts to gut the bill.

14. Obamacare expanded access to lifesaving preventive care such as cancer screenings and immunizations with no out-of-pocket costs for 54 million Americans.

15. Obamacare ends insurance discrimination against the 129 million Americans with pre-existing conditions.

16. Because of Obamacare, over 3 million more young adults have health insurance today than would if the new law hadn't passed.

17. The parents of over 17 million children with pre-existing conditions no longer have to worry that their children will be denied coverage.

18. President Obama has ordered the overhaul of federal government regulations to make them smarter, practical, and more efficient. Just a fraction of these commonsense initiatives will help save businesses $10 billion in the next five years alone.

19. His historic investments in clean energy have helped more than double the amount of electricity we obtain from wind and solar sources and helped increase biofuel production to its highest level in history.

20. President Obama is doubling fuel efficiency standards, which can save drivers more than $8,000 at the gas pump, not to mention lessen the impact of automobiles on our environment. Perhaps we'll catch up with European standards in this regard.

21. President Obama has taken action to address climate change, reaching historic international agreements to curb carbon emissions, and taking action here at home to reduce carbon pollution from our vehicles and promote clean energy production. We are now pretty fuel independent under this administration.

22. He has taken historic action to protect our environment -- signing one of the largest expansions of protected wilderness in a generation and putting in place standards to reduce toxic air pollution that will save thousands of lives.

23. President Obama fought for and won landmark Wall Street reform that reins in the abuses that led to the financial crisis and ends the era of taxpayer bailouts and "too big to fail."

24. Wall Street reform created the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, the nation's first federal agency focused solely on consumer financial protection -- and the Bureau is already protecting families from unfair and abusive financial practices from Wall Street banks and shadowy corners of the financial industry.

25. As part of President Obama's commitment to transparency, the White House has posted its visitor records online for the first time ever. Transparency remains a huge issue in our government however.

26. President Obama's all-of-the-above approach to energy has helped cut the United States' dependence on foreign oil to its lowest level in 20 years.

27. President Obama responsibly ended the war in Iraq. Today's flare-up aside we are finding new approaches to US presence there finally.

28. He created a policy to end the war in Afghanistan and transition security responsibility to the Afghan people. and is in process with it today.

29. President Obama sent the largest security assistance package to Israel in history and funded the Iron Dome system, shifting more US$$$ to defensive rather than offensive military aid.

30. President Obama rallied the international community to implement the toughest sanctions on Iran in history.

31. Through the President's historic increases in Veterans Affairs funding, he has expanded and improved healthcare and job training access for our returning veterans. Despite systemic glitches that have plagued the VA for decades things are better for our vets today. I know.

32. President Obama negotiated the New START Treaty with Russia to reduce the number of nuclear weapons in both countries. At the same time, he also secured commitments from dozens of other countries to lock down nuclear materials.

33. His administration naturalized 11,146 military service members as U.S. citizens in 2010; more than in any year since 1955.

34. President Obama set a new plan for the future of NASA space exploration, using the skill and ability of the private sector for short trips to the International Space Station, while building a new vehicle for exploration of distant space, and doing everything in his power to support the economy on Florida's Space Coast.

35. President Obama recognized that tourism is one of America's largest economic engines; he's worked to encourage international visitors to come here, maintaining our security while keeping millions of Americans in good, paying jobs.

36. He has affirmed his personal support of marriage equality, directed the Justice Department to stop defending DOMA in federal courts, and took the practical and compassionate step of extending hospital visitation rights to same-sex partners.

37. He fought for and won the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell, allowing gay and lesbian members of the military to serve openly for the first time in history.

38. When Congress failed to fix our broken immigration system, his administration did everything in its power to improve it, streamlining the legal immigration process and announcing a policy that lifts the shadow of deportation from hard working young immigrants brought to the U.S. as children.

39. Oh, and he gave the order to send troops in after Osama Bin Laden -- and has decimated al-Qaeda's senior leadership.

40. Read into this current TTIP agreement with Europe and UK to understand better our foreign policy re Ukraine, the Middle East and the 'Stans'. Definitely fewer boots on the ground now.

Could be worse! It is okay to give credit when due even to the Great Satan. There are plenty of real things to fuss about.

lindajoy wrote:
~~ - higher unemployment overall this time around, more people on SNAP / EBT this time around. Prices of food rising, on average 33% Year over Year to date. Fuel costs (gasoline, petroleum products), as well as futures of coal fired power facilities will be causing electricity prices to go up..Numbers do not reflect the fact those whom no longer qualify for benefits are not counted... The problem is that despite the number of new jobs created (almost as many as were lost during the recession), the jobs are paying much lower wages and with less benefits. That means each new job created has only a fraction of the economic benefit that the jobs lost had on both consumers pocket books and the US economy as a whole

Sorry have to finish later~gotta run.......Have a great day, tho...
~~ color=blue - higher unemployment overall this ... (show quote)

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