viet vet

please keep believing that , you are an exceptional recruitment for liberals , so please keep up your dialogue

OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!

Oh, I'll keep believing it because it is the truth. Being a liberal is easy, it's the easiest and most gutless choice. It takes courage to be a conservative.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Do you suppose that you and taro will ever manage to discuss the reasons for Obama's coming impeachment? I say no, but then you may change and start trying to call me on the reasons I listed instead of just attacking the messengers (one of Alinsky's favorite tricks) and posting ten word attacks and nothing more.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

When can I expect to see you trying to discuss the reasons I listed in the first post here about why Obama should be impeached? I know it won't happen because you don't read links and therefore don't even know about the ways Obama has broken Constitutional orders for government and how it is to be done. Come on and lets argue a bit about some of those things.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

Ahhh....so you were once a Democrat. That's why the sound and fury of the convert. It's that secret shame, isn't it....that you were once one of us. Do you loathe your former self the way you do us current liberals?
It's a waste of time, either way.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

It is time for me to ask one of you progs which of the suggested reasons that involved violating the Constitution by Obama if it is true or not. Lets try these reasons listed and never talked about by one of you attack the messenger people. Could you talk with me about these reasons for his coming impeachment?


You progs really don't want to discuss any reasons for impeachment, do you? From the link I supplied you and you didn't read one word from we find these words about Obama avoiding his duties. Nor does the Constitution give the President the authority to create new laws. Article 1, Sec. 1 is clear on that point; “All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.” Go ahead and say something about how this is all wrong. You do remember Obama saying that if Congress won't do what he wants he will do it on his own, don't you?

Also, we can find the argument that he has chosen to enforce some laws and not others. the Constitution says he "shall" enforce all laws passed by Congress and he thinks he can pick and choose. I guess progs do define "shall" and "should" with the same words.

If you want me to go on with things like this that you can't deal with so will have to try to deflect from, I am ready.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

Of course I read the link....there's no there there. Conservatives would impeach the President for breathing if you could.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

This President is not doing anything different than other presidents have done. Signing statement, executive orders, and selective enforcement have been going on for a long time.
Just what is it that makes this President's actions impeachable when others were not?

revmsue

He was born in Hawaii after it became a state. The REPUBLICAN governor of the state verified his birth certificate. The Supreme Court even looked into it and certified that he was a viable candidate even before the first time he was elected. How does that make him not a natural born American?
And, if this is your only problem with him, why are you so unwilling to admit you're WRONG and focus on actual issues, like the reepubs in Congress who want to cut Social Security and have already cut funding for Head Start and Planned Parenthood, while refusing to allow the jobs creation and immigration Bills even come to a vote?
Or, are you jut a dumb bigoted redneck who can't see beyond the color of a person's skin?

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

Whom did Bush get killed? If your talking service members, me signed up as all serves members do. Very few in Congress said no and shortly after it started most Democrats decided they wanted out. Hillary voted yes, Harry voted yes, Kerry voted yes among most.

revmsue

How much courage does it require to take bribes from the NRA and Big Oil to continue being their shills in Congress? How much courage does it take to take food from hungry children and cut spending on the education that will allow them to have better lives? How much courage does it take to try to cut Social Security while giving tax breaks and subsidies to trillionaires?
Oh, yeah, conservatives have a lot of courage: blaming the unemployed for being fired so the corporations could send their jobs overseas...cutting SNAP and blaming it on those who cannot afford to buy food. Yeah, those conservatives have a LOT of courage!! Let's not forget how they are trying to break the law (ROE V WADE) by making it virtually impossible to get a safe abortion - and then calling those girls baby-killers!
And, let's hear it for bullies who use their power to beat up on the weak and defenseless, while letting the powerful corporations dictate their actions.
What DOES take courage is standing up for those who cannot stand up for themselves. And THAT'S why I gave up being a Republican. There is not ONE reepub who has earned my respect. When one does, I will vote for him.
In the meantime, President Obama is doing the best he can under the circumstances. He can only suggest; Congress must put the action to it, and they are doing everything they can to block or defeat any good idea he puts forth. Then they say it's all his fault that nothing is being done. The best thing that will happen in 2014 is that they will lose their jobs and be replaced by people who actually CARE about the future of this nation.

viet vet

use the quote reply option to reply to a particular post, these wingnuts are just reacting to a black man occupying the icon of white power , it is primacy issue

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

In other words you think that violating the Constitution by I Won is not at all reason enough to be impeached for. You do know what some of his violations are from reading that link, i am sure.

viet vet

well said

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Now that I have recovered from that fit of laughing and giggling at what you said, let me tell you that this time there is a GOP controlled House and it is the House that does the impeaching. He has violated the Constitution time and again and deserves to be impeached for it.