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Okay, you're the president...what would you do about ISIS ?
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Sep 1, 2014 09:37:41   #
PeterS
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
As long as they can achieve some of their goals by intimidation there is no need to act here so Obama holds off. When the threat of action is no longer working then action takes place. Yeah, it makes sense.

What intimidation? If they are "massed" here and are going to attack why would you not attack them because you were afraid they would attack? They are going to attack aren't they--your actions have nothing to do with it! That's circular logic--you are making no sense!

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Sep 1, 2014 09:42:28   #
Liberty Tree
 
PeterS wrote:
What intimidation? If they are "massed" here and are going to attack why would you not attack them because you were afraid they would attack? They are going to attack aren't they--your actions have nothing to do with it! That's circular logic--you are making no sense!


You are too dense to get through!!

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Sep 1, 2014 09:43:22   #
laverne
 
I agree with Richard. you make a lot of sense. :-)

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Sep 1, 2014 09:46:26   #
laverne
 
Richard Oliver wrote:
If I am the president, I would find the sources of ISIS financial funding and have their assets " FROZEN "SEIZED" and "CONFISCATED". I will also find the sources of their weapons, "SEIZED" and "CONFISCATE" them. If Iran or Syria and other middle eastern Terrorists country are their suppliers, I will call on the United Nations and all the Allies to CONFRONT THEM at the same time place and install a very strong economic or all kinds of SANCTIONS against them. While all these things are going on, THE BOMBING WILL NOT STOP UNTIL the ISIS will turn into ASHES. Now, with regards to all the MUSLIMS in the US, we must root them out if we suspect them of REBELLION and INSURRECTION..Obama do not have a "STRATEGY YET", because, he "VOWED" that America will never be in conflict with ISLAM, and declared, "AMERICA IS NO LONGER A CHRISTIAN NATION".
If I am the president, I would find the sources of... (show quote)

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Sep 1, 2014 09:52:20   #
Brian Devon
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
Seriously, I'm curious...many here feel very strongly about this.....what would you do, realistically if you could ? Like saying " blow up the Middle East" is not very realistic....does anyone here have any realistic ideas of what can and should be done?



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If I were a conservative war pimp president? I would exploit ISIS as an opportunity to get Americans to once again, for the umpteenth time, to hand over their children and treasure in another futile war....the kind that America always loses.

The boogyman trick seems to work quite well.

In Vietnam, the rubes believed the North Vietnamese commies would be coming for them after they captured Saigon.

In the middle east, they convinced gullible Americans again that Saddam Hussein had yellow cake uranium and if we didn't stop him our cities would be radioactive glass.

Of course Saddam did brutalize his people. Since when, however does the U.S. invade when an evil cruel dictator doesn't have a resource we want or a strategic chokepoint that
we covet?

Of course we didn't invade Uganda to rescue millions from a cruel butcher. Amin wasn't sitting on a sea of oil.

Americans have seen these militarists run the same movie over and over again.

Fortunately the majority of American voters have proven that they are not so gullible as to play Charley Brown to Lucy's football tricks.

It pisses off the wingnuts no end. Hence their new tantrum of the week.

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Sep 1, 2014 09:56:41   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
I'd chuckle if this weren't so important, going his own way is what he has done for the last four years so why would this be any different? Sen. Dianne Feinstein, chairwoman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, said in a separate interview that Obama is perhaps "too cautious" in his approach to combating Islamic State.


Anigav6969 wrote:
That is a good point....he cannot act on his own...if politics is played with this problem...on both sides..they should be ashamed of themselves....this is too important...I really don't know what should be done...it seems a complicated issue...

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Sep 1, 2014 09:57:08   #
Anigav6969
 
numenian wrote:
Enemy Combatants: kill on sight. No warning or Miranda rights. Sniper and drone free-for-all. Deal them death is any and every way possible.


:thumbup:

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Sep 1, 2014 10:02:24   #
Anigav6969
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Have you thought about the fact they he is afraid to take too strong of an action because ISIS and other terror groups have infiltrated this country due to his failure to protect our borders? He is afraid of retaliation on the homefront.


Sorry, I don't see the logic there

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Sep 1, 2014 10:08:34   #
Anigav6969
 
Brian Devon wrote:
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If I were a conservative war pimp president? I would exploit ISIS as an opportunity to get Americans to once again, for the umpteenth time, to hand over their children and treasure in another futile war....the kind that America always loses.

The boogyman trick seems to work quite well.

In Vietnam, the rubes believed the North Vietnamese commies would be coming for them after they captured Saigon.

In the middle east, they convinced gullible Americans again that Saddam Hussein had yellow cake uranium and if we didn't stop him our cities would be radioactive glass.

Of course Saddam did brutalize his people. Since when, however does the U.S. invade when an evil cruel dictator doesn't have a resource we want or a strategic chokepoint that
we covet?

Of course we didn't invade Uganda to rescue millions from a cruel butcher. Amin wasn't sitting on a sea of oil.

Americans have seen these militarists run the same movie over and over again.

Fortunately the majority of American voters have proven that they are not so gullible as to play Charley Brown to Lucy's football tricks.

It pisses off the wingnuts no end. Hence their new tantrum of the week.
********** br If I were a conservative war pimp pr... (show quote)


I agree with you......but would you engage at all ? Missiles, drones, etc

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Sep 1, 2014 10:11:17   #
rawwar
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
I was hoping for something more realistic....


The first thing I Would do as president is sign a declaration of war with the backing of Congress. The second is tell everyone in the country over there if you're still there when we get there you are considered the enemy so leave and then start on two fronts and come to the middle. If war is what they want then war is what they would get.

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Sep 1, 2014 10:12:43   #
Liberty Tree
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
Sorry, I don't see the logic there


I will try to make it simple. If Obama attacks ISIS abroad then terror groups will attack here. To avoid that Obama may not act strongly against ISIS. Get it.

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Sep 1, 2014 10:23:53   #
Brian Devon
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
I agree with you......but would you engage at all ? Missiles, drones, etc



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No. When have our bombs and troops accomplished anything lasting in the middle east?

When you see a body of water.....and there is a sign that says, "quicksand" you stay the hell out.

I've mentioned this before. These people have been slaughtering each other for centuries, competing for the "my faith is better than your faith" trophy.

They have been doing this since long before the U.S. was a nation.

We took little interest in these people until we developed a strong oil addiction.

Again, its time we weaned ourself off of our oil dependency and went back to ignoring the Persian Gulf region as we did before.

What about Israel? Israel hardly needs American airstrikes nor American troops in the area. As they have proven quite a few times they are rather adept at defending themselves when attacked.

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Sep 1, 2014 10:56:46   #
Anigav6969
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
I will try to make it simple. If Obama attacks ISIS abroad then terror groups will attack here. To avoid that Obama may not act strongly against ISIS. Get it.


Yes, I get what you're saying..

Question: so what would you suggest ?

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Sep 1, 2014 10:59:35   #
Anigav6969
 
Brian Devon wrote:
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No. When have our bombs and troops accomplished anything lasting in the middle east?

When you see a body of water.....and there is a sign that says, "quicksand" you stay the hell out.

I've mentioned this before. These people have been slaughtering each other for centuries, competing for the "my faith is better than your faith" trophy.

They have been doing this since long before the U.S. was a nation.

We took little interest in these people until we developed a strong oil addiction.

Again, its time we weaned ourself off of our oil dependency and went back to ignoring the Persian Gulf region as we did before.

What about Israel? Israel hardly needs American airstrikes nor American troops in the area. As they have proven quite a few times they are rather adept at defending themselves when attacked.
*********** br No. When have our bombs and troops ... (show quote)


For me it's hard to argue with that...I know others here don't agree..

It's sad, but I have a feeling we're going in

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Sep 1, 2014 11:16:13   #
Liberty Tree
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
Yes, I get what you're saying..

Question: so what would you suggest ?


Seal the borders as much as possible, put Homeland Seurity on high alert, put together (if possible) an coalition of nations to isolate ISIS economically and geograpically because we cannot do it alone, be prepared and carry out strong military action, make the price for their actions so high they are not willing to pay it, recognize that, infortunately, there will be civilian casualties, forget the opinion of the UN and others who may be critical, and make the only real priority the safety of American citizens.

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