My, my the argument is getting heated and I have yet to say anything in defense of our defense.

Well lets just look at this situation for a moment. According to their law, "if a man murders a man, then that man must be executed." For isn't murder a road to more murder. Is this not the law of Moses? Is this not the Law of Christ? Is this not the law of the Muslims?

For if this law is followed. Then we must exterminate the group responsible. However, Christ did not say judge, but rather, "judge not lest you be judged!", but does this give them a license to kill?

For if they killed others as well as their own is it not right to go after them. We may render mercy on to them, for that is the way of the Christian, however, mercy and forgiveness, does not alleviate ones responsibility with God. But this is purely a spiritual side.

As far as the human side, since the law states "if a man kills another man, then that man must be brought to justice"
For do we not bring men to justice for murdering in our own lands, yet we are afraid to do so overseas why? Murder is murder whether it is done here or there. However, we have honor and are called civilized, yet we still follow the law. Does that mean the law is wrong? No by all means.

For ISIS not only kills the man, but desecrates the man's body, treating his body like dirt, when in fact that body is the temple of Jesus Christ. Therefore the desecration of the temple of Jesus Christ, is a sin beyond measure. This sin was also recognized by the greatest Empire in the world, the Romans. Yet the Romans took part in the desecration of the Holy Temple of Jesus Christ, and in time were converted, and outlawed such cruelty. Yet, man still believes he must protect God. Why does man have to protect God? Why must man kill man in the name of God, when God can do His Own killing and does?

Now in our case, being victims of the evil which ISIS poses to not only Christians and Jews but their fellow Muslim brothers, is it not prudent to rescue them from this evil?

If the Jews are bound by the law, and the Christians are not bound by that law, and the Muslims are thus again bound by the Jewish law, is it not right for the Christians to intervene and if necessary kill?

For the law applies only to those who were not Baptised in the faith of Jesus Christ, and confirmed by the Holy Spirit. Thus the Jews and Muslims are under the law of Moses, where the Christians are not. Does this mean the law of Moses does not apply to the Christians? Heavens no! For a Christian to remain in the grace of God, the Christian must follow the laws of God, which are written in the law of Moses.

But what makes Christianity different, is in the fact that they can forgive, those who are worthy of forgiveness, therefore showing the light of Christ upon them. Now my bickering and upset friends, I have been reading the Letters of St. Paul all night, so therefore my response is in the methodology of St. Paul. Let me come down from the pulpit of the Church for a moment and respond as a man.

As a man, the murder of those in Iraq, especially those from the Christian villages, I feel as a Christian that my fellow brothers and sisters were killed because they believed in Jesus Christ. The same person or if you may, God, I believe in. Therefore, an attack on one of the members of Christ is an attack on the whole body of Christ.

As a man, if one of my members of my body was to be attacked the other members would retaliate to stop that member from being attacked. Therefore it is prudent to march on ISIS. Did we kill all the members of the Nazi party, or did we just imprison them?

It is true that the members of the Nazi party did some horrible things to the Jews. And for that they were brought up on war crimes and crimes against humanity. And it was through the consensus of the whole world to execute these people.

Now, like the example of the Nazis, we should arrest and try these people before the entire world, to satisfy the accusation point of trial. Then the world can sit in judgement over these people.

If the Christians, who are the injured party, should seek mercy, then that wish should be fulfilled. However, if the crime and sin of these murders are more than the Christians can bear, then it would be right to execute them. But to do nothing when a member of your body is injured by an outside threat is worse than what we do to animals that attack the human person.

Should a man find a beehive, in his yard, and a bee stings him, the bee dies. But does that end the threat of the bees? Does the man not look for the sources of the bees to either destroy the hive or exile the hive away from his loved ones?

Therefore both prudence and justice demand action. Therefore it is right to go after ISIS in a way that all humans can be safe from the brutality of this group.

Although my fear and anger has been kindled against ISIS, that in no way means that I am their judge. They have sophisticated "toys" of war now and the outlaw group believes to be an army. Yet this is no army but a bunch of outlaws that need to be brought to justice.

They are a band of outlaws that are now using the internet to affect the hearts and minds of us all. Do not seek revenge, but seek justice. Punish those who are responsible, so they stop this evil. If they cannot or will not stop this evil, then there is only one alternative left and that alternative is death.

Since 9/11 we have been battling these terrorists. We have attempted on many occasions to make peace. Each peace agreement has be answered with death. Now the only alternative is death. And through death, peace may be granted.

No where in the Bible or the Koran does it state to kill, unless murder is done. However, Muhammad did allude to a justifiable murder, neither Yahweh or Jesus accepted it. Yahweh allowed men to kill if revenge consumed their soul, this is related in the Law of Moses. But Yahweh never approved of murder as an act of aggression. Yahweh did command however, the ancient Israelites to exterminate or smite the inhabitants of the Nephilim or the land of Canaan, for a specific reason. But the Israelites took pity on the people they conquered and tried to unite the peoples.

This proved to be against the will of God, for these people poisoned the Israelites who eventually took on the customs of the people they conquered and sinned against their own God. So, God exiled His people to Babylon until they came to their senses. And when they left their false gods and came to their senses, God welcomed them back to the land of their fathers.

And again they turned against their God, partly because of foreigners, for they turned back to sin. They killed the Son of their God, so God commanded Rome to destroy Jerusalem, and in 70 AD, Emperor Tiberius, did so. He destroyed the Temple and the city. The land was laid waste.

Today, Israel has returned to their senses and is beginning to return to their land and they are building it back up. Instead of us Christians jumping for joy at the sight of the power of God in our time, we condemn Israel for this. Why? There are some among you that say the terrorist problem we have today is because we are allies with Israel.

There are some that feel Palestine should control the land. However, Palestine can't control Hamas, a terrorist organization that taught Osama Bin Laden, and Al Qaeda, which in turn taught ISIS. Which brings us to this dilemma.

Therefore, I agree with going in and destroying ISIS and holding the men responsible for the crimes against humanity. However, I want you to decide, you my fellow OPP brothers and sisters to decide. Briefly, I described the situation in Faith and Reason. I have prayed upon this situation going on 24 days now. And the answer seems to be an invasion.

Every act of peace on our part has been met with another beheaded or crucified person. So, I ask those opposed to the invasion, how many more people, let them be Jew, Christian, or American must die before we act?

"Well lets just look at this situation for a moment. According to their law, "if a man murders a man, then that man must be executed." For isn't murder a road to more murder. Is this not the law of Moses? Is this not the Law of Christ? Is this not the law of the Muslims?"

"s this not the law of the Muslims?"...............................................


I had to stop reading your post at this point, because the law of Moses is not the law of Islam.

That is the misunderstanding of Islam in a nut shell.

Islam is the law of Mohammed.

Mohammed wrote his own book borrowing from Muslim Jewish and Christian religions, with lots of proverbs written by himself.

WHAT ISLAM IS NOT ★
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VEXWjlgJ83E


This is the first of twenty two you tube video's explaining why Islam is Islam, not an off shoot of any other religion.

Walid Shoebat - Why Islam is the Antichrist 1 of 22
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OxKMxds-P8


The first step in solving any problem, is to understand the problem.
Otherwise, your just making stuff up.

Actually, no!

There is no law against murder.

If you kill a Muslim, then you can be killed for that.

Last year an article was printed where two teenage friends were hunting and one of the boys laid his rifle on a fence they were climbing over and the gun fell, went off and killed the other friend.

So the religious leaders decided that the second boy had to be killed, because, it's a life for a life and accidents don't count.
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Here are some words from Islam and their definitions. You tell me if they're concerned about murder.

Harbitude

Harbitude is the opposite of dhimmitude.

Develop some harbitude and become a harbi with attitude!
So what is a Harbi? Are YOU one?

A Harbi has no rights, not even the right to live.
...and, you maybe a harbi without even knowing it!
Harbis are people who jihadists judge to be 'at war with Islam', though they don't have to do anything aggressive towards Moslems, their mere existence is a sufficient insult to Allah to justify their extermination.

Islam divides people into two antagonistic groups - Moslems (collectively known as the Ummah) versus Kaffirs (aka Kufr, Kuffars, Infidels or non-believers).

Kaffirs are subdivided further - Jews and Christians who accept the supremacy of Islam are known as Dhimmis, and are allowed to live as second-class citizens, provided they pay the extortionate Jizya (infidel tax) to their Moslem masters. However the Jews must be exterminated eventually before world Islamic domination can be achieved. Christians will then be kept as slaves, since somebody has to do the work, and all parasites needs hosts.

The state of being a submissive Dhimmi is known as Dhimmitude.

Buddhists, Sikhs, Hindus, Pagans and members of all other 'non-Abrahamic' religions, together with secularists, and those Jews and Christians who do not accept Muslim domination, are regarded as Harbis - targets of war.
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The Koran occupies a place that has no parallel in Western civilization.

The Koran is considered by Muslims and by traditional Islamic theology to be dictated, word for word, by God himself, by Allah himself, through the Angel Gabriel, to the Prophet Mohamed.

As a result, every word of it, is the words of God himself. Every word of the Koran, unless it is canceled by another section of the Koran itself, is valid for all time and
cannot be questioned,
cannot be reformed,
cannot be changed, within an Islamic context.

This means that moderate Muslims, peaceful Muslims, if they are sincere, have to reject entirely Koranic literalism. But, to do so, puts them outside the sphere of anything that has been considered orthodox Islam throughout history, because to do so, is to reject the very basic premise of Islam, that this is a book, that is dictated by God and is a perfect copy of a perfect book the, “oomalkutab.” (Arabic spelling unknown) The mother of the book that has existed forever with Allah in heaven.

What the West needs to know about Islam. 10:37 – 11:55 (time marks)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4xCdehrV96U#!
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And this is what they teach their kids, You tell me, just how concerned about murder are they.

Hamas to kids: Shoot all the Jews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ORAM-usqhQ