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Aug 22, 2014 20:42:58   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Recently I have had discussions with some of the libs on here about what we should do about ISIS. I say kill em, no matter what it takes. Then the libs come out and say the US has caused these terrorists to hate us. I disagree. It is obvious conservatives and liberals view cause and effect totally different. The following is hypothetical. George, a very liberal man lives in a nice middle class neighborhood with his wife and 11 year old daughter. When he comes home from work one day his wife stops him in the driveway and informs him the lady down the streets husband has come home from prison after 25 year sentence for raping a teenager. The mother is scared to death but George tells her to calm down the man has served his time. Later that year while George is mowing the lawn and his 11 year old is playing in the driveway George notices the x con standing in the road staring at his daughter. George waves and the man walks over and introduces himself as Mike. The guy leers at George and tells him he has a pretty little daughter and she should be careful cause she could get raped. George of course panics and asks Mike what he means. Mike tells him exactly how he would like to rape George's little girl. George backs up and says he is calling the police. Mike laughs and walks on home. The police tell George they will confront Mike, who says all he did was introduce himself to George and because George has a little girl he is a hater. The police inform George they talked to Mike and it's his word against George's and there is nothing they can do. George is scared. He believed Mike. He is thinking about moving but decides to talk to his friend from work. Mikes friend Bill is a die hard conservative so even though he seems like a nice guy Mike has always been a little Leary of Bill because of his radicle views on the 2nd amendment and politics in general. He tells Bill the situation. Bill asks, even though he knows the answer if Mike has a gun? Mike says of course not. Bill advises him to take the whole family to a range and learn how to shoot. Tells him to get a concealed carry, the whole nine yards. George just can't see that. he will let the police handle the situation. George's daughter gets raped police arrest Mike. Should George have found away to take Mike out?

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Aug 22, 2014 20:55:45   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
JFlorio wrote:
Recently I have had discussions with some of the libs on here about what we should do about ISIS. I say kill em, no matter what it takes. Then the libs come out and say the US has caused these terrorists to hate us. I disagree. It is obvious conservatives and liberals view cause and effect totally different. The following is hypothetical. George, a very liberal man lives in a nice middle class neighborhood with his wife and 11 year old daughter. When he comes home from work one day his wife stops him in the driveway and informs him the lady down the streets husband has come home from prison after 25 year sentence for raping a teenager. The mother is scared to death but George tells her to calm down the man has served his time. Later that year while George is mowing the lawn and his 11 year old is playing in the driveway George notices the x con standing in the road staring at his daughter. George waves and the man walks over and introduces himself as Mike. The guy leers at George and tells him he has a pretty little daughter and she should be careful cause she could get raped. George of course panics and asks Mike what he means. Mike tells him exactly how he would like to rape George's little girl. George backs up and says he is calling the police. Mike laughs and walks on home. The police tell George they will confront Mike, who says all he did was introduce himself to George and because George has a little girl he is a hater. The police inform George they talked to Mike and it's his word against George's and there is nothing they can do. George is scared. He believed Mike. He is thinking about moving but decides to talk to his friend from work. Mikes friend Bill is a die hard conservative so even though he seems like a nice guy Mike has always been a little Leary of Bill because of his radicle views on the 2nd amendment and politics in general. He tells Bill the situation. Bill asks, even though he knows the answer if George has a gun? George says of course not. Bill advises him to take the whole family to a range and learn how to shoot. Tells him to get a concealed carry, the whole nine yards. George just can't see that. he will let the police handle the situation. George's daughter gets raped police arrest Mike. Should George have found away to take Mike out?
Recently I have had discussions with some of the l... (show quote)
sorry had to re post got some of the names mixed up.

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Aug 22, 2014 21:04:55   #
Brian Devon
 
JFlorio wrote:
Recently I have had discussions with some of the libs on here about what we should do about ISIS. I say kill em, no matter what it takes. Then the libs come out and say the US has caused these terrorists to hate us. I disagree. It is obvious conservatives and liberals view cause and effect totally different. The following is hypothetical. George, a very liberal man lives in a nice middle class neighborhood with his wife and 11 year old daughter. When he comes home from work one day his wife stops him in the driveway and informs him the lady down the streets husband has come home from prison after 25 year sentence for raping a teenager. The mother is scared to death but George tells her to calm down the man has served his time. Later that year while George is mowing the lawn and his 11 year old is playing in the driveway George notices the x con standing in the road staring at his daughter. George waves and the man walks over and introduces himself as Mike. The guy leers at George and tells him he has a pretty little daughter and she should be careful cause she could get raped. George of course panics and asks Mike what he means. Mike tells him exactly how he would like to rape George's little girl. George backs up and says he is calling the police. Mike laughs and walks on home. The police tell George they will confront Mike, who says all he did was introduce himself to George and because George has a little girl he is a hater. The police inform George they talked to Mike and it's his word against George's and there is nothing they can do. George is scared. He believed Mike. He is thinking about moving but decides to talk to his friend from work. Mikes friend Bill is a die hard conservative so even though he seems like a nice guy Mike has always been a little Leary of Bill because of his radicle views on the 2nd amendment and politics in general. He tells Bill the situation. Bill asks, even though he knows the answer if Mike has a gun? Mike says of course not. Bill advises him to take the whole family to a range and learn how to shoot. Tells him to get a concealed carry, the whole nine yards. George just can't see that. he will let the police handle the situation. George's daughter gets raped police arrest Mike. Should George have found away to take Mike out?
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Buy a one way ticket to Bagdad and put your OWN boots on the ground. It would probably do you a world of good....instead of volunteering your neighbors children to sacrifice themselves in the never-ending cycle of futile violence in the middle east.

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Aug 22, 2014 21:12:00   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
You dip shit. It's an all volunteer army. I wouldn't want to fight any war with this coward Obama in charge. No wonder you love him pussy.
Brian Devon wrote:
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Buy a one way ticket to Bagdad and put your OWN boots on the ground. It would probably do you a world of good....instead of volunteering your neighbors children to sacrifice themselves in the never-ending cycle of futile violence in the middle east.

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Aug 22, 2014 21:20:58   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Brian Devon wrote:
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Buy a one way ticket to Bagdad and put your OWN boots on the ground. It would probably do you a world of good....instead of volunteering your neighbors children to sacrifice themselves in the never-ending cycle of futile violence in the middle east.


Hi Brian! Haven't seen you in a while. I think the point was (and I may be wrong) what are we doing here to protect us from a bunch of savages who have declared war on us?

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Aug 22, 2014 21:28:53   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Thank you Arch that was the point. In my silly story you could exchange Brian for George.
archie bunker wrote:
Hi Brian! Haven't seen you in a while. I think the point was (and I may be wrong) what are we doing here to protect us from a bunch of savages who have declared war on us?

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Aug 22, 2014 21:43:37   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
JFlorio wrote:
Thank you Arch that was the point. In my silly story you could exchange Brian for George.


We have too many Georges here. We also have a bunch, I mean A BUNCH of savages here too!! I just don't understand.....

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Aug 22, 2014 22:20:52   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
Brian Devon wrote:
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Buy a one way ticket to Bagdad and put your OWN boots on the ground. It would probably do you a world of good....instead of volunteering your neighbors children to sacrifice themselves in the never-ending cycle of futile violence in the middle east.


Been there done that. We didn't go far enough because of the liberals.

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Aug 22, 2014 22:59:43   #
Sicilianthing
 
JFlorio wrote:
Recently I have had discussions with some of the libs on here about what we should do about ISIS. I say kill em, no matter what it takes. Then the libs come out and say the US has caused these terrorists to hate us. I disagree. It is obvious conservatives and liberals view cause and effect totally different. The following is hypothetical. George, a very liberal man lives in a nice middle class neighborhood with his wife and 11 year old daughter. When he comes home from work one day his wife stops him in the driveway and informs him the lady down the streets husband has come home from prison after 25 year sentence for raping a teenager. The mother is scared to death but George tells her to calm down the man has served his time. Later that year while George is mowing the lawn and his 11 year old is playing in the driveway George notices the x con standing in the road staring at his daughter. George waves and the man walks over and introduces himself as Mike. The guy leers at George and tells him he has a pretty little daughter and she should be careful cause she could get raped. George of course panics and asks Mike what he means. Mike tells him exactly how he would like to rape George's little girl. George backs up and says he is calling the police. Mike laughs and walks on home. The police tell George they will confront Mike, who says all he did was introduce himself to George and because George has a little girl he is a hater. The police inform George they talked to Mike and it's his word against George's and there is nothing they can do. George is scared. He believed Mike. He is thinking about moving but decides to talk to his friend from work. Mikes friend Bill is a die hard conservative so even though he seems like a nice guy Mike has always been a little Leary of Bill because of his radicle views on the 2nd amendment and politics in general. He tells Bill the situation. Bill asks, even though he knows the answer if Mike has a gun? Mike says of course not. Bill advises him to take the whole family to a range and learn how to shoot. Tells him to get a concealed carry, the whole nine yards. George just can't see that. he will let the police handle the situation. George's daughter gets raped police arrest Mike. Should George have found away to take Mike out?
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Nah... go help him rape the Cops
Daughter, Wife, Sister, Mom...

You get the point !

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Aug 23, 2014 00:17:37   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
JFlorio wrote:
Recently I have had discussions with some of the libs on here about what we should do about ISIS. I say kill em, no matter what it takes. Then the libs come out and say the US has caused these terrorists to hate us. I disagree. It is obvious conservatives and liberals view cause and effect totally different. The following is hypothetical. George, a very liberal man lives in a nice middle class neighborhood with his wife and 11 year old daughter. When he comes home from work one day his wife stops him in the driveway and informs him the lady down the streets husband has come home from prison after 25 year sentence for raping a teenager. The mother is scared to death but George tells her to calm down the man has served his time. Later that year while George is mowing the lawn and his 11 year old is playing in the driveway George notices the x con standing in the road staring at his daughter. George waves and the man walks over and introduces himself as Mike. The guy leers at George and tells him he has a pretty little daughter and she should be careful cause she could get raped. George of course panics and asks Mike what he means. Mike tells him exactly how he would like to rape George's little girl. George backs up and says he is calling the police. Mike laughs and walks on home. The police tell George they will confront Mike, who says all he did was introduce himself to George and because George has a little girl he is a hater. The police inform George they talked to Mike and it's his word against George's and there is nothing they can do. George is scared. He believed Mike. He is thinking about moving but decides to talk to his friend from work. Mikes friend Bill is a die hard conservative so even though he seems like a nice guy Mike has always been a little Leary of Bill because of his radicle views on the 2nd amendment and politics in general. He tells Bill the situation. Bill asks, even though he knows the answer if Mike has a gun? Mike says of course not. Bill advises him to take the whole family to a range and learn how to shoot. Tells him to get a concealed carry, the whole nine yards. George just can't see that. he will let the police handle the situation. George's daughter gets raped police arrest Mike. Should George have found away to take Mike out?
Recently I have had discussions with some of the l... (show quote)


The Mid East is a waste of time and money. They've been butchering each other in innovative and horrible ways for thousands of years. Whole regions have been depopulated and repopulated numerous times. Don't kid yourself. Nothing America does will discourage these maniacs. Even nuclear anihilation would only be a temporary solution. They've been anihilated before. Their whole lives are consumed with hatred and murder and it's been that way since Cain murdered Abel. The smartest thing America could do is concentrate its strategic interests here.

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Aug 23, 2014 01:01:00   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
The Liberals will always find excuses for bad or worse behavior. I say, those that participate in murder need to go to trial. If they are found guilty then they should be beheaded on their national television. This would send a message to others desiring to murder others. An eye for an eye.

Now to your question. If it were my daughter, and as you know I have a teenaged daughter, I would have done what it takes to protect her. I would have taken the Conservative's advice regarding gun training and would have gotten a permit to carry. I would also insist that my daughter receive training and made aware that if anyone should attack her, then she should not hesitate to defend herself. I would also have taken her for training in hand to hand, sometimes a punch in the right spot will stop an attacker before they can cause harm. Additionally, I would start a neighborhood watch program. Install an alarm on the house.... But, I would not take or make a preemptive strike, I would have to be sure that he was committing a crime before I capped his behind! And the Liberal was an idiot for introducing himself knowing the man's history. Most offenders do not practice their art randomly, they know or have met their target.



JFlorio wrote:
Recently I have had discussions with some of the libs on here about what we should do about ISIS. I say kill em, no matter what it takes. Then the libs come out and say the US has caused these terrorists to hate us. I disagree. It is obvious conservatives and liberals view cause and effect totally different. The following is hypothetical. George, a very liberal man lives in a nice middle class neighborhood with his wife and 11 year old daughter. When he comes home from work one day his wife stops him in the driveway and informs him the lady down the streets husband has come home from prison after 25 year sentence for raping a teenager. The mother is scared to death but George tells her to calm down the man has served his time. Later that year while George is mowing the lawn and his 11 year old is playing in the driveway George notices the x con standing in the road staring at his daughter. George waves and the man walks over and introduces himself as Mike. The guy leers at George and tells him he has a pretty little daughter and she should be careful cause she could get raped. George of course panics and asks Mike what he means. Mike tells him exactly how he would like to rape George's little girl. George backs up and says he is calling the police. Mike laughs and walks on home. The police tell George they will confront Mike, who says all he did was introduce himself to George and because George has a little girl he is a hater. The police inform George they talked to Mike and it's his word against George's and there is nothing they can do. George is scared. He believed Mike. He is thinking about moving but decides to talk to his friend from work. Mikes friend Bill is a die hard conservative so even though he seems like a nice guy Mike has always been a little Leary of Bill because of his radicle views on the 2nd amendment and politics in general. He tells Bill the situation. Bill asks, even though he knows the answer if Mike has a gun? Mike says of course not. Bill advises him to take the whole family to a range and learn how to shoot. Tells him to get a concealed carry, the whole nine yards. George just can't see that. he will let the police handle the situation. George's daughter gets raped police arrest Mike. Should George have found away to take Mike out?
Recently I have had discussions with some of the l... (show quote)

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Aug 23, 2014 01:09:06   #
Steve700
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
Been there done that. We didn't go far enough because of the liberals.
Exactly right. It's always been the liberals. We won in Vietnam and lost after the war ended because of the liberals, same as is the case now. The whole Iraq war started off wrong because of the liberals and conservatives fear of their whining. What should have been done at the beginning was when all the looting started the looters should have been machine-gunned down and tell there was no one left to shoot. If that had happened then, the Muslims would have perceived as as having meant business and all these so-called insurgents would not have flooded in from all the surrounding countries. At this point, it will be difficult to overcome them agreement to take the proper actions --- consequently, it will be our ass and that of the civilized Western world. What should be done is the atomic destruction of backup, with a 10 day warning to get out. Then start soaking all the jihadists bodies we can catch and kill in pigs blood, wrap them in bacon and pork rinds, packed them in shit and bury their ass face down so they can see where they're going. I guarantee that would stop all the violent Islamic bull shit. The problem is what is needed is universal agreement and this non-Islamic world as neither the guts nor the wisdom to realize this is what is needed and take the necessary action. SOooooooooo tribulations & Armageddon, here we come. No two ways about it.

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Aug 23, 2014 01:13:16   #
Steve700
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
Been there done that. We didn't go far enough because of the liberals.
Exactly right. It's always been the liberals. We won in Vietnam and lost after the war ended because of the liberals, same as is the case now. The whole Iraq war started off wrong because of the liberals and conservatives fear of their whining. What should have been done at the beginning was when all the looting started the looters should have been machine-gunned down and tell there was no one left to shoot. If that had happened then, the Muslims would have perceived as as having meant business and all these so-called insurgents would not have flooded in from all the surrounding countries. At this point, it will be difficult to overcome them agreement to take the proper actions --- consequently, it will be our ass and that of the civilized Western world. What should be done is the atomic destruction of backup, with a 10 day warning to get out. Then start soaking all the jihadists bodies we can catch and kill in pigs blood, wrap them in bacon and pork rinds, packed them in shit and bury their ass face down so they can see where they're going. I guarantee that would stop all the violent Islamic bull shit. The problem is what is needed is universal agreement and this non-Islamic world as neither the guts nor the wisdom to realize this is what is needed and take the necessary action. SOooooooooo tribulations & Armageddon, here we come. No two ways about it.

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Aug 23, 2014 01:57:20   #
stymie
 
BigMike wrote:
The Mid East is a waste of time and money. They've been butchering each other in innovative and horrible ways for thousands of years. Whole regions have been depopulated and repopulated numerous times. Don't kid yourself. Nothing America does will discourage these maniacs. Even nuclear anihilation would only be a temporary solution. They've been anihilated before. Their whole lives are consumed with hatred and murder and it's been that way since Cain murdered Abel. The smartest thing America could do is concentrate its strategic interests here.
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Big Mike, I very seldom disagree with your take on things but in this case unsure what you are specifically defining as our strategic interests. Would you elaborate on some of your thoughts? Actually nuclear annihilation every fifty years to me would seem adequate to control the demographics. For those of you that are going to be upset and think I am full of hate; not so. You want to seduce them with love and political correctness go ahead but just understand one thing. I would not feel this way if they would just leave us alone. Live and let live; know what I mean. However, realistically that's not going to happen so what are we to do?

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Aug 23, 2014 02:23:01   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
stymie wrote:
Big Mike, I very seldom disagree with your take on things but in this case unsure what you are specifically defining as our strategic interests. Would you elaborate on some of your thoughts? Actually nuclear annihilation every fifty years to me would seem adequate to control the demographics. For those of you that are going to be upset and think I am full of hate; not so. You want to seduce them with love and political correctness go ahead but just understand one thing. I would not feel this way if they would just leave us alone. Live and let live; know what I mean. However, realistically that's not going to happen so what are we to do?
Big Mike, I very seldom disagree with your take on... (show quote)


Trust me on this, we meddled over there long before they meddled here. During the Wilson administration the American people were somehow convinced that going to war in Europe would make the world "safe for Democracy", never mind that the Brits were oppressing people all over the globe. Same for the French. The world was not made safe for democracy! The result has been 100 years of American imperialism, but we're lousy imperialists. Rome exacted tribute from its vassal states. We send money to and go into debt for ours.

The Mid East has nothing we need! We could not only be energy independent here, we could lead the world in developing hydrogen and fusion power. Israel is the only ally we can more or less count on. Arming factions in the Mid East is a fool's game. For thousands of years, switching sides in the heat of war and hiding behind woment and children has been standard procedure there. To achieve anything a few eggs will have to be broken, and we aren't like that.

Basically, all conflict there is religious at the root. Not only have they brutalized each other for thousands of years, their religion calls on them to do so. They wrote all the books on torture, murder and genocide. After all these centuries they're still at it. Do you seriously think they'll stop because we kill a bunch of them? Compared with what they do to each other we're like disapproving old ladies. We're just a bunch of young punks who moved in yesterday and act like we think we own the place.

We need to pick our battles a little more carefully and quit trying to run things everywhere. Shit! We can't even balance a budget at home or control our own border! What kind of delusion is it that we can bend the world to our will? We need to make America our strategic interest, so when forces from outside make trouble we'll have the wherewithal to defend ourselves.

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