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Aug 22, 2014 09:17:20   #
freedomfirst
 
there would be no story here if the black man who was a ganster and had a 100# pounds on the cop ,killed the cop.the black point of view is;if a black man comes at you the white man shoud let him beat you to death or the black people will riot. what would do???????

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Aug 22, 2014 09:28:09   #
VladimirPee
 
Nonsense. I think you folks invent your own facts to support your theory. Or you just blatantly lie

Here is a VIDEO of Dorian Johnson. At 1.24 of the video " He says the officer shot Brown in the back

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/13/ferguson-protests-continue/13989945/





tdsrnest wrote:
He did not say he was shot in the back he said he jerked back the press just made an assumption

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Aug 22, 2014 09:40:01   #
Liberty Tree
 
DennisDee wrote:
Nonsense. I think you folks invent your own facts to support your theory. Or you just blatantly lie

Here is a VIDEO of Dorian Johnson. At 1.24 of the video " He says the officer shot Brown in the back

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/13/ferguson-protests-continue/13989945/


Johnson's initial story has been completely discredited by the evidence and there are reports that he has recanted this account.

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Aug 22, 2014 09:40:07   #
Blacksheep
 
DennisDee wrote:
Nonsense. I think you folks invent your own facts to support your theory. Or you just blatantly lie

Here is a VIDEO of Dorian Johnson. At 1.24 of the video " He says the officer shot Brown in the back

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/13/ferguson-protests-continue/13989945/


3 autopsies all say he was shot in front, not in back. The media screwed it up and you insist on pushing their error. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Aug 22, 2014 09:41:34   #
VladimirPee
 
That's the point. Turd claims NOBODY said he was shot in the back. Brown's little thug pal said it and has been discredited.


Blacksheep wrote:
3 autopsies all say he was shot in front, not in back. GEE, DO YOU THINK DORIAN MIGHT HAVE BEEN LYING, INSTEAD? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Aug 22, 2014 10:03:40   #
Blacksheep
 
DennisDee wrote:
That's the point. Turd claims NOBODY said he was shot in the back. Brown's little thug pal said it and has been discredited.


You're arguing with Turd? What the hell for? Turd knows nothing but wants to argue about everything, and you're going along with that? Who cares what he said about what?

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Aug 22, 2014 10:13:46   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Blacksheep wrote:
You're arguing with Turd? What the hell for? Turd knows nothing but wants to argue about everything, and you're going along with that? Who cares what he said about what?


:thumbup:

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Aug 22, 2014 10:55:52   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
AuntiE wrote:
I wrote four whole words. :-P :-D


History talks about a "shot being heard around the world."

No matter who wrote four words or five thousand on this subject; makes the point that the results of a normal community problem has gone world wide.

Burning and destruction before a verdict is given smells of frustration, anger, hopelessness, but also stupidity. There are as many whites today as blacks that are having hard times making ends meet.

To say the black side is right or the white side is right is also stupid. Both sides are right in one sense, However could it be that both sides are wrong in the way this was handled.

As the old saying goes, Save 6 for pallbearers and let God straighten it out. "Stupid is as stupid does."

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Aug 22, 2014 11:09:10   #
Mom8052 Loc: Lost in the mountains of New Mexico
 
Armageddun wrote:
History talks about a "shot being heard around the world."

No matter who wrote four words or five thousand on this subject; makes the point that the results of a normal community problem has gone world wide.

Burning and destruction before a verdict is given smells of frustration, anger, hopelessness, but also stupidity. There are as many whites today as blacks that are having hard times making ends meet.

you hit it on the head.
To say the black side is right or the white side is right is also stupid. Both sides are right in one sense, However could it be that both sides are wrong in the way this was handled.

As the old saying goes, Save 6 for pallbearers and let God straighten it out. "Stupid is as stupid does."
History talks about a "shot being heard aroun... (show quote)

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Aug 22, 2014 11:30:49   #
Buccaneers-1
 
No you are not the only one. But there are much more that are so dumb down by the media and the lidea they feed the public on a daily basis. there is none that really want you to know exactly what happened everything is a speculation and a lie the media fabricates lies according to the narrative that they deliver constantly. Dont believe the media... "NOT EVEN A SMIDGEN" (like obama said about the scandals in the white house) Go to "before its news.com" also check out "trunews.com" "Paul McGuire. US" also listen to the Alex Jones Show and Hagmann&Hagmann report, those guys pretty much tell you what exactly is going on.

AuntiE wrote:
Exactly how I feel.


http://townhall.com/columnists/derekhunter/2014/08/21/am-i-the-only-one-who-doesnt-care-n1881035/page/full

Am I The Only One Who Doesn’t Care?

It seems like the world, or at least the media world, is obsessed with the happenings in Ferguson, Mo. No detail is too insignificant to speculate about, no matter how wild the speculation. I know more about it than I should, and I bet you do too.

We’ve been marinated in best guesses, wild speculation, hypotheticals and enough flat-out lies to make Tommy Flanagan blush. At this point, about the only thing we don’t know is what actually happened. But even after all this, I still can’t bring myself to care about any of it.

Maybe it has to do with the lies: Michael Brown “was shot in the back!” Well, he actually wasn’t. Nor was he about to start college, or a sweet, innocent child who’d never done anything to anyone. He was a human being with all the stupidity and potential that goes along with that existence.

How he ended up dead in the street probably never will be known. And even if we found out, I doubt it would matter. People on all sides have made up their minds to the point that no story, no set of facts, will change their minds. They range from “Mike Brown was a thug” to “Officer Darren Wilson is a racist who was looking to shoot a black man,” and everything in between. All of which is mindlessly simplistic, and none of which is true.

I don’t know what happened that day, though I have a guess just like everything else. It’s more complicated than much of what you hear on TV, but it’s just as irrelevant.

More importantly, and perhaps more oddly: I don’t care.

I didn’t know Mike Brown, nor do I know Darren Wilson. Unlike many people interviewed on TV, I feel no kinship with either. I’ve known people who’ve died, committed suicide and been murdered, and I’ve felt something for all of them because I knew them. I don’t know these people.

I’ve also been harassed by police, pulled over and searched and asked “What are you doing here?” for simply driving a piece-of-junk car in a nice neighborhood.

I feel sorry for the Brown family for losing a child, and I feel for the Wilson family because no matter what happened, his life is pretty much over. Brown will be buried; Wilson will be hunted and haunted, guilty or innocent.

I get the professional grievance industry and why they’re in Ferguson – there’s money and political power to be had. But I don’t get people taking to the streets. Protesters (not the rioters, they’re simply scum) march under the belief that police are shooting black men like, well, they were black men themselves.

There is nothing more dangerous to a black man then another black man, but that doesn’t warrant marches or any lasting movement. Only when a white person is involved does it seem to matter to “community activists” and politicians. Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, etc., might as well not exist to them.

If they care so deeply about black people being killed why don’t they mention where black people are being shot and killed at a Third World rate? Again, because there’s no money or power in it. They’ve already got their support and votes, and those aren’t going anywhere, so they don’t have to even pay lip service to caring.

The progressive agenda of “you are your race first, American second” pays off in these situations. People having been inundated with the message that you should feel part of a “community” based on skin pigment makes it easy to manipulate them into believing “what happens to one, happens to all.” But only when someone with different skin pigment does it matter.

It’s sick, it’s sad, it’s racist, it’s progressive.

I’m not a progressive, so I don’t feel a kinship with people who share common traits with me or my ancestors, only people I know. Crazy, right?

So when a black off-duty police officer shot and killed an unarmed white man on the side of a freeway in Maryland and was found not guilty because the man was charging at him in a fit of road rage, I thought to myself “Well, our justice system has spoken.” The jury heard the evidence—I didn’t—and drew a conclusion. I didn’t demand his head or take to the streets until I found out why pulled off the road to have the confrontation in the first place. The jury heard the evidence in the justice system, where it belongs, and delivered their verdict.

But the calls for “justice” in Ferguson are nothing close to the definition of justice. Those calls are not for following the evidence wherever it leads. They’re calls for a man’s head regardless of what happened that day. There are lots of words for that, none of which are “justice.”

What happens next will be under a cloud of suspicion no matter what. Progressives and their fellow travellers in the media will keep a lid on the facts, leaking only what fits their narrative. People will make fools of themselves. People will become “media celebrities.” Lawyers will get rich. And the two men involved eventually will be forgotten until the next time the media finds a story it decides matters more than the scores of black men murdered by other black men, and ratings can be made. Lather, rinse, repeat.

I’m getting off the merry-go-round by not caring in the first place. I’ll still talk about the race-baiting and the media manipulation meant to divide us as human beings, but that’s it. I can’t stop the ride in Ferguson by myself. I can’t change its course, but I’m damn sure not going to be a party to it. If you want to get wrapped up in events that don’t affect your life, if you want to be a pawn in the progressives’ manipulation game, knock yourself out. But like “global, thermal, nuclear war” in War Games, the only way to win is not to play. That’s the only way to stop this progressive political and media monster of manipulation and division.

I can’t be the only one, can I?
Exactly how I feel. br br br http://townhall.co... (show quote)

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Aug 22, 2014 12:42:22   #
LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
Blacksheep wrote:
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Wikipedia: "The rate of sexual violence in South Africa is among the highest in the world." Other sites: "The Enough Project has been closely following the violent conflict in Central African Republic, where mass killings and human rights abuses continue at an alarming rate."
"Regions that could be the breadbasket of fast-growing African economies have been ravaged by fighting."
"Domestic violence is biggest threat to west Africa's women, IRC says"
"The Rwandan Genocide was a genocidal mass slaughter of Tutsi and moderate Hutu in Rwanda by members of the Hutu majority. During the approximate 100-day period from April 7, 1994 to mid-July, an estimated 500,000–1,000,000 Rwandans were killed,"
"“This has become a country where people are not just killed, they are tortured, mutilated, burned and dismembered … Children have been decapitated, and we know of at least four cases where the killers have eaten the flesh of their victims."

Just because you expect the media to tell you this stuff without your asking, doesn't mean a thing. You have to go looking for it because the constant slaughters going on all over Africa are just not the news that our media cares to dwell on, any more than the African media is focused on our affairs.

Your ERRONEOUS conclusion that my conclusion is erroneous, is, needless to say, totally erroneous. African Negroes are FAR MORE violent than they are in the United States. Over here we have their very high crime and murder rate, outstripping that of all other ethnic and racial groups by a factor of about 8 to 1, but over in Africa they commit Slaughterings of 1000's, GENOCIDE of entire tribes and ethnic groups, and here, you hardly hear a whisper of it.

Negroes are the most violent race of people on Earth.
--------------------------------------------------... (show quote)

OK, fair enough. I kind of stuck my neck out there and I'll withdraw my statement due to insufficient knowledge on my part. I'll try to find out more about this and continue to keep an open mind, however, as I believe that to be the only way to get to the truth.

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Aug 22, 2014 12:58:29   #
vernon
 
AuntiE wrote:
Exactly how I feel.


http://townhall.com/columnists/derekhunter/2014/08/21/am-i-the-only-one-who-doesnt-care-n1881035/page/full

Am I The Only One Who Doesn’t Care?

It seems like the world, or at least the media world, is obsessed with the happenings in Ferguson, Mo. No detail is too insignificant to speculate about, no matter how wild the speculation. I know more about it than I should, and I bet you do too.

We’ve been marinated in best guesses, wild speculation, hypotheticals and enough flat-out lies to make Tommy Flanagan blush. At this point, about the only thing we don’t know is what actually happened. But even after all this, I still can’t bring myself to care about any of it.

Maybe it has to do with the lies: Michael Brown “was shot in the back!” Well, he actually wasn’t. Nor was he about to start college, or a sweet, innocent child who’d never done anything to anyone. He was a human being with all the stupidity and potential that goes along with that existence.

How he ended up dead in the street probably never will be known. And even if we found out, I doubt it would matter. People on all sides have made up their minds to the point that no story, no set of facts, will change their minds. They range from “Mike Brown was a thug” to “Officer Darren Wilson is a racist who was looking to shoot a black man,” and everything in between. All of which is mindlessly simplistic, and none of which is true.

I don’t know what happened that day, though I have a guess just like everything else. It’s more complicated than much of what you hear on TV, but it’s just as irrelevant.

More importantly, and perhaps more oddly: I don’t care.

I didn’t know Mike Brown, nor do I know Darren Wilson. Unlike many people interviewed on TV, I feel no kinship with either. I’ve known people who’ve died, committed suicide and been murdered, and I’ve felt something for all of them because I knew them. I don’t know these people.

I’ve also been harassed by police, pulled over and searched and asked “What are you doing here?” for simply driving a piece-of-junk car in a nice neighborhood.

I feel sorry for the Brown family for losing a child, and I feel for the Wilson family because no matter what happened, his life is pretty much over. Brown will be buried; Wilson will be hunted and haunted, guilty or innocent.

I get the professional grievance industry and why they’re in Ferguson – there’s money and political power to be had. But I don’t get people taking to the streets. Protesters (not the rioters, they’re simply scum) march under the belief that police are shooting black men like, well, they were black men themselves.

There is nothing more dangerous to a black man then another black man, but that doesn’t warrant marches or any lasting movement. Only when a white person is involved does it seem to matter to “community activists” and politicians. Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, etc., might as well not exist to them.

If they care so deeply about black people being killed why don’t they mention where black people are being shot and killed at a Third World rate? Again, because there’s no money or power in it. They’ve already got their support and votes, and those aren’t going anywhere, so they don’t have to even pay lip service to caring.

The progressive agenda of “you are your race first, American second” pays off in these situations. People having been inundated with the message that you should feel part of a “community” based on skin pigment makes it easy to manipulate them into believing “what happens to one, happens to all.” But only when someone with different skin pigment does it matter.

It’s sick, it’s sad, it’s racist, it’s progressive.

I’m not a progressive, so I don’t feel a kinship with people who share common traits with me or my ancestors, only people I know. Crazy, right?

So when a black off-duty police officer shot and killed an unarmed white man on the side of a freeway in Maryland and was found not guilty because the man was charging at him in a fit of road rage, I thought to myself “Well, our justice system has spoken.” The jury heard the evidence—I didn’t—and drew a conclusion. I didn’t demand his head or take to the streets until I found out why pulled off the road to have the confrontation in the first place. The jury heard the evidence in the justice system, where it belongs, and delivered their verdict.

But the calls for “justice” in Ferguson are nothing close to the definition of justice. Those calls are not for following the evidence wherever it leads. They’re calls for a man’s head regardless of what happened that day. There are lots of words for that, none of which are “justice.”

What happens next will be under a cloud of suspicion no matter what. Progressives and their fellow travellers in the media will keep a lid on the facts, leaking only what fits their narrative. People will make fools of themselves. People will become “media celebrities.” Lawyers will get rich. And the two men involved eventually will be forgotten until the next time the media finds a story it decides matters more than the scores of black men murdered by other black men, and ratings can be made. Lather, rinse, repeat.

I’m getting off the merry-go-round by not caring in the first place. I’ll still talk about the race-baiting and the media manipulation meant to divide us as human beings, but that’s it. I can’t stop the ride in Ferguson by myself. I can’t change its course, but I’m damn sure not going to be a party to it. If you want to get wrapped up in events that don’t affect your life, if you want to be a pawn in the progressives’ manipulation game, knock yourself out. But like “global, thermal, nuclear war” in War Games, the only way to win is not to play. That’s the only way to stop this progressive political and media monster of manipulation and division.

I can’t be the only one, can I?
Exactly how I feel. br br br http://townhall.co... (show quote)



have you noticed since they have arrested 167 people that it has calmed down.the thing that deserves notice is the fact that only 4 of them were from ferguson.now some one was paying those people and covering their expenses,find those with the money and youll find out what is causing this problem

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Aug 22, 2014 13:05:04   #
2004done
 
Super Dave wrote:
So..... You're saying that the death of 1000's of innocent non-violent black people at the hands of black people don't outrage the black community as much the death of 1 black thug at the hands of a police officer that may have been defending himse


It is not an either/or choice, myriad possibilities including "it sells newspapers" (although that idiom may be past its prime).

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Aug 22, 2014 13:29:31   #
Blacksheep
 
LAPhil wrote:
OK, fair enough. I kind of stuck my neck out there and I'll withdraw my statement due to insufficient knowledge on my part. I'll try to find out more about this and continue to keep an open mind, however, as I believe that to be the only way to get to the truth.


An open mind is vital to seeing the truth. Absolutely.

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Aug 22, 2014 13:31:57   #
LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
Blacksheep wrote:
An open mind is vital to seeing the truth. Absolutely.
Glad we agree on that! :thumbup: :thumbup:

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