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Aug 20, 2014 13:38:13   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
So if you are willing to do so take action.
Common Law Grand Jury
Established in 49 states Iowa is lagging. Most states have representation in every county. Oregon does how is your state doing? All states all counties with names and phone number

http://www.1215.org/lawnotes/lawnotes/grandjuryrules.htm

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http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=2734278%3ATopic%3A755066&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_topic

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Article VII US Constitution




IN A US SUPREME COURT STUNNING 6 TO 3 DECISION JUSTICE ANTONIN SCALIA, writing for the majority, confirmed that the American grand jury is neither part of the judicial, executive nor legislative branches of government, but instead belongs to the people. It is in effect a fourth branch of government “governed” and
administered to directly by and on behalf of the American people, and its authority emanates from the Bill of Rights and has the power to enforce law and remove people from office. (See US Supreme
Court Decisions, Volume 504 pages 36 to 49 year 1992)




America Only wrote:
You do at least see the "picture"...yet please recall at one point of time literally that "man on the moon" was merely a flash gordon episode and today, already past history.....

That which has ALWAYS made the United States a strong Nation has been those of us that have been and still are willing to serve and even sacrifice our very life if need be. Nothing has changed about those of us willing to do so.

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Aug 20, 2014 13:39:29   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
OK!.I, am also "on it"! Thanks!

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Aug 20, 2014 13:41:17   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
You ignorant phuck. I have presented the answer to you several times therefore, you prefer ignorance so you are stupid


Ronald Hatt wrote:
easier "said" than done. I write my Congressmen, & Senators, "often" & only get "pre-formed" answers, that don't usually mean anything! [ michigan] Carl Levin, & Debbie Stabenow!....[ 2 very useless politicians]

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Aug 20, 2014 13:43:42   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
geeze.hope you aren't addressing "ME"!

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Aug 20, 2014 14:16:55   #
Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way
 
ron vrooman wrote:
You ignorant phuck. I have presented the answer to you several times therefore, you prefer ignorance so you are stupid


So you live in a state where a senator may have a few million constituents he or she is accountable to, in addition to potentially millions of more Americans writing, emailing and calling on any given day.

There is simply way too much power consolidated at the federal level. Most of which constitutionally belongs to the states. These powers rights and responsibilities must be given back to the states to handle closer to the people these laws and regulations are effecting most.

The larger the fed gov grows the less influence the common man has.

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Aug 20, 2014 14:20:11   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
Super Dave wrote:
The public has to be educated, which is why Democrats want to undo the 1st Amendment, and use the IRS to punish those that speak the truth.

Until voters demand better, we ain't getting any better.


Well said :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Aug 20, 2014 17:07:39   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
DJRich wrote:
Obama and congress cannot and will not work together except in the limited capacity.
So Obama is working with the real power in the government, the lobbyists. And many of them don't call themselves lobbyists anymore. So deals are made behind the scenes, and Obama will get more of his agenda through, and the whiners and complainers and the haters and marginally stupid pundits and commentators will cry.

But Obama will not be on the ballot, and by the time some figure it out, the lobbyists will have made a new policy.

And congress will sit, and sputter and yell, and start a new investigtion about a scandal they just thought up in committee.


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/white-house-negotiates-underground-lobbyists-100000462.html
Obama and congress cannot and will not work togeth... (show quote)


This is NOT a "do nothing" Congress! They have worked tirelessly, to ensure a one term Obama! Wait, that didn't work. Oh, here's this. The job of Congress is to get re-elected and they HAVE worked tirelessly on that - and ONLY that, so there!

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Aug 20, 2014 18:31:30   #
DJRich Loc: Western Pa
 
You are right about the job of getting re-elected.

They failed miserably on making Obama a one termer though





lpnmajor wrote:
This is NOT a "do nothing" Congress! They have worked tirelessly, to ensure a one term Obama! Wait, that didn't work. Oh, here's this. The job of Congress is to get re-elected and they HAVE worked tirelessly on that - and ONLY that, so there!

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Aug 21, 2014 06:26:42   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
DJRich wrote:
You are right about the job of getting re-elected.

They failed miserably on making Obama a one termer though


Well, they've screwed up everything they've worked on so far, so they can be excused. Remember, after the crash of 2008, they were in a frenzy to write new legislation to prevent a repeat - then immediately went about dismantling the whole thing. Why? Wall Street showed up with lots of dough and a list of OTHER donors, whose money they managed - and reminded them that another election was just around the corner.

Another thing this congress is good at; lining their own nest eggs - at the expense of ours.

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Aug 21, 2014 08:19:58   #
Retired669
 
DJRich wrote:
Lobbyists DO NOT represent the "people". Lobbyists represent the people with "special interests", and those special interests are not always going to be aligned with your "special interests"


Exactly!....:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Aug 21, 2014 08:50:17   #
hozorg847
 
Obama only listens to his 32 czars for advice!!!!!

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Aug 21, 2014 09:23:47   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Well, they've screwed up everything they've worked on so far, so they can be excused. Remember, after the crash of 2008, they were in a frenzy to write new legislation to prevent a repeat - then immediately went about dismantling the whole thing. Why? Wall Street showed up with lots of dough and a list of OTHER donors, whose money they managed - and reminded them that another election was just around the corner.

Another thing this congress is good at; lining their own nest eggs - at the expense of ours.
Well, they've screwed up everything they've worked... (show quote)


They didn't even need new legislation, all they had to for was reinstate the Glass-Seagal Act that was repealed.
It was originally designed and implemented to keep the markets regulated.
Why it was repealed in the first place by Clinton, but w/ little static from EITHER party is the question there.
Mean while politicians got very rich and the economy crumbled under its own weight w/ in a decade.
It is amazing how these politicians are able to accumulate so much wealth while they are supposed to be a public servants.

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Aug 21, 2014 10:12:46   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
[ THEM:].......Therein, lies the problem: Liberalism = Let the GBMNt, provide for me, from cradle to grave! Everything I get is an "entitlement"....."I deserve it", & I demand it, or I'll loot, rob, maim, & destroy, until the GBMNT gives in!

[ ME].......Conservatism: Let "ME" provide for myself, & my family, from cradle to grave,& let the GBMNT, provide national security, & aid in getting the economy to be at a self sustaining level! Let me live with my "own religion", & be an example to others fro personal responsibility, & decency!

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Aug 21, 2014 12:27:15   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
the waker wrote:
They didn't even need new legislation, all they had to for was reinstate the Glass-Seagal Act that was repealed.
It was originally designed and implemented to keep the markets regulated.
Why it was repealed in the first place by Clinton, but w/ little static from EITHER party is the question there.
Mean while politicians got very rich and the economy crumbled under its own weight w/ in a decade.
It is amazing how these politicians are able to accumulate so much wealth while they are supposed to be a public servants.
They didn't even need new legislation, all they ha... (show quote)


You answered your own question with your very next statement. We KNOW they're not getting wealthy off of what they're paid while in office, which they like to remind us of come re-election time, but it's a secret ( yeah, right).

I took a class, years ago, on business finance. The Proff. suggested that there were only 4 ways to get wealthy; Be born to wealthy parents, become a Wall Street banker, Invent a " one of" and sell the company built around it, or become a politician. He said that only one of those required any real work and invited us to guess which one.

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Aug 21, 2014 18:59:39   #
maryla
 
yeah...its as if this comes from the Democratic party's plan to destroy America and the way it has come to know how business is done...Harry doesn't do nothing with those 357 bills, many of which were from Dem. Representatives...

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