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May 4, 2024 15:23:07   #
WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX
 
sail375 wrote:
If one pays more attention to Behavor, and less to mindless hateful Rhetoric from either side, it looks like both Biden and Trump may be out of the running for the White House?

Both Biden and Trump are bad for America at this point. Neither has the ability of calming this Society down and reunifying it. The reasons are obvious to nonpartisan Voters.

The partisan Voters are so wrapped up in their individual and collective vicious Hatred and ridiculous irrelevant Rhetoric that it actually endangers the existence of this Nation, and threatens another Civil War.

Each of their Party Leaderships only guarantees four more years of this Stupid fight between the two Parties. They will never work for We the People, meaning all Americans, again.

Liberals have RFK, Jr. Conservatives have the Libertarian Party. Both are far better than the two Clowns the Partisans have. At least they're not trying to kill each other.
If one pays more attention to Behavor, and less to... (show quote)


Your assessment is accurate.

Sad, but true, without some significant unknown event that creates severe turmoil, we are stuck with what we have....Trump or Biden.

I'd prefer Trump style policy and action. Civil war or division would be OK. On most things, I've already compromised to the max that my conscience allows.

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May 4, 2024 15:33:19   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
sail375 wrote:
If one pays more attention to Behavor, and less to mindless hateful Rhetoric from either side, it looks like both Biden and Trump may be out of the running for the White House?

Both Biden and Trump are bad for America at this point. Neither has the ability of calming this Society down and reunifying it. The reasons are obvious to nonpartisan Voters.

The partisan Voters are so wrapped up in their individual and collective vicious Hatred and ridiculous irrelevant Rhetoric that it actually endangers the existence of this Nation, and threatens another Civil War.

Each of their Party Leaderships only guarantees four more years of this Stupid fight between the two Parties. They will never work for We the People, meaning all Americans, again.

Liberals have RFK, Jr. Conservatives have the Libertarian Party. Both are far better than the two Clowns the Partisans have. At least they're not trying to kill each other.
If one pays more attention to Behavor, and less to... (show quote)


I disagree with some of your points. No leader, IMO can bring us together. The two sides now want two differing countries. I'm a social and economic evangelical conservative. I will never compromise my beliefs and vote for some supposed middle of the road candidate that can bring us all together. Never happen. I'm mostly an economic voter.
My social beliefs are my own and no one else should be forced to live them.

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May 4, 2024 16:06:58   #
sail375
 
Whatever happens, my Military Oath in 1966 remains to this Republic to this day.

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May 4, 2024 16:20:32   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
tomhoff24 wrote:
He doesn’t believe in the Lord,only himself. Opinion


That is your opinion, you don’t know that for a fact.

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May 4, 2024 17:11:00   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
tomhoff24 wrote:
He doesn’t believe in the Lord,only himself. Opinion


How do you know that, you like all the other ugly Democrats who think they can read minds?

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May 4, 2024 17:42:47   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
PeterS wrote:
Hate has nothing to do with this. Trump is accused of breaking campaign finance regulations multiple times to hide his affairs with two women. And yes, you are right, affairs don't matter, and hiding affairs don't matter. But hiding them because you are afraid they are going to cost you the election does matter. This is where Trump crossed the line and committed campaign finance violations on at least 31 occasions.

So you could love Trump with the greatest of passion like Melania or hate him with the greatest of passion like Micheal Cohen and it wouldn't matter. All that matters is whether the prosecutor is able to convince twelve people on the jury that Donald Trump willfully broke the laws in any of the 31 indictments against him. Now if just one juror thinks that the prosecutor hasn't fully met his burden of proof then you will have a hung jury and Donald will likely get off scot-free. Given the way things are going, that's probably the best that Trump can hope for.

But what it looks like is that Trump has isolated both the judge and the jury by denigrating them, demeaning them, and making personal threats against the judge's daughter. Remember, these are people who hold his fate in their collective hands. Even if he can't get them on his side he needs their objectivity unaffected. You can't achieve that by spouting lies each and every day.

What Trump should understand, but clearly doesn't, is that the judge has the power to only give him a slap on the wrist and let him go on his merry presidential way or put him in jail for up to 4 years. So this is the man Trump made the choice to isolate on the first day. A bad case of dumb and dumber...

Now the thing that you conservatives have to grapple with is what are you going to do if/when Donald is convicted and very likely sentenced to jail? Now you MAGA conservatives would vote for him if he turned red, grew horns, and a great big pointy tail but what of those in the independent middle? If you lose just 5% that's it, you'll be left out in the cold again and it will be no one's fault but Donald J. Trump's!
Hate has nothing to do with this. Trump is accused... (show quote)


Good summary.

Did you mean to type "insult" rather than "isolate" when talking about what DJ has done with the judge & jury?

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May 4, 2024 17:44:10   #
JdaleB
 
Those who have had to have a brick dropped on em, well that brick is obvious. Agree.but

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May 4, 2024 17:45:46   #
JdaleB
 
Yes, this.

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May 4, 2024 17:45:49   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
sail375 wrote:
If one pays more attention to Behavor, and less to mindless hateful Rhetoric from either side, it looks like both Biden and Trump may be out of the running for the White House?

Both Biden and Trump are bad for America at this point. Neither has the ability of calming this Society down and reunifying it. The reasons are obvious to nonpartisan Voters.

The partisan Voters are so wrapped up in their individual and collective vicious Hatred and ridiculous irrelevant Rhetoric that it actually endangers the existence of this Nation, and threatens another Civil War.

Each of their Party Leaderships only guarantees four more years of this Stupid fight between the two Parties. They will never work for We the People, meaning all Americans, again.

Liberals have RFK, Jr. Conservatives have the Libertarian Party. Both are far better than the two Clowns the Partisans have. At least they're not trying to kill each other.
If one pays more attention to Behavor, and less to... (show quote)


RFK Jr. is more of a conservative or at least libertarian choice than liberal. His anti-vax stance is more MAGA Relublican than Dem..

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May 4, 2024 17:47:29   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
jSmitty45 wrote:
That is your opinion, you don’t know that for a fact.


Which is exactly what he said.

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May 4, 2024 17:48:44   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
microphor wrote:
How do you know that, you like all the other ugly Democrats who think they can read minds?


He ended that with "Opinion"

IMHO, he is correct.

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May 4, 2024 17:50:03   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
JdaleB wrote:
Yes, this.


JdaleB you need to touch "quote reply" when you are replying to a comment or no one knows what you mean.

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May 4, 2024 17:51:13   #
WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Jake you need to touch "reply" when you are replying to a comment or no one knows what you mean.


Yeah, reply, that's the ticket!

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May 4, 2024 19:12:31   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
@Jdale -
Pay Winky no mind
"Reply" only will show only your response. If you don't want to quote someone's entire post when replying you can shorten it (or even alter it, which some people do just to be childish - or because autocorrect corrects incorrectly. )).

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May 4, 2024 19:25:10   #
WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX
 
NotMAGA wrote:
@Jdale -
Pay Winky no mind
"Reply" only will show only your response. If you don't want to quote someone's entire post when replying you can shorten it (or even alter it, which some people do just to be childish - or because autocorrect corrects incorrectly. )).


Nice edit job db, dmf.

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