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May 1, 2024 17:24:12   #
manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.
 
LostAggie66 wrote:
I like all you said with the exception of rejecting atheism and agnostics because they still do exist here but they do not try and force views on any one. Or do you mean rejection on an indvidual basis(personal vs societal)


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All Secular Humanists, Socialists. and Communists live or want to live in an atheistic society. I reject all of these ideas, hence I reject atheism as a basis for society. However, I do not necessarily reject individuals who profess atheism, so long as they do not affect my life negatively and are morally upstanding citizens of the US.

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May 1, 2024 19:36:31   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
pegw wrote:
Your are right on on about half of this. The other half is right wing Republican propaganda


Be specific.

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May 1, 2024 19:51:29   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
manning5me wrote:
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All Secular Humanists, Socialists. and Communists live or want to live in an atheistic society. I reject all of these ideas, hence I reject atheism as a basis for society. However, I do not necessarily reject individuals who profess atheism, so long as they do not affect my life negatively and are morally upstanding citizens of the US.


I have to somewhat agree with Aggie and that is rare. I guess I'm closer to an agnostic.

I believe their is a God and will gladly argue that belief. I believe it is irrefutable. But I personally want no part of any religion. There very essence is against some of my principals. They are created by man and often used as a way of controlling people. Both religiously and politically. But I also believe that when properly led, they can be a great basis for raising children and forming political beliefs that are not evil. If you believe in your religion, go for it. Just stay within your religion and don't try to convince others, of other beliefs, that they need what you believe in to be saved.

I recently read something about Albert Einstein's religious beliefs. We were quite compatible. I prefer to just believe that we analyzed the issues and came to our own conclusions and not the cookie cutter format of some religion and really didn't meat our sincere beliefs.

Logically Right

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May 1, 2024 20:10:14   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Manning,

I applaud your sentiment as you well articulate our beliefs and values, as well as the necessity of resisting and defeating the demonic ideology and perversions now gripping this land and the degradation it is imposing upon our youth.

The predicament in which "We The People" now find ourselves in this once great nation is doubly bitter for those of us who fought and triumphed over those who would have turned our nation and our world into unrelenting darkness in the mid 20th century, had we not encountered God's favor.

Those of our age, retired seventy, eighty and ninety year olds, who had the great privilege of growing to maturity in the greatest, most productive, most inventive country the world had ever seen, who through the grace of God, rescued the civilized world not once, but twice, from catastrophic World Wars I and II, only to watch in horror as every value we were ever taught in our youth, is now rejected and spit upon.

Your manifesto [public declaration of principles, policies, intentions, and beliefs] is a welcome reminder that in this United States, it is in The Constitution of the United States that the supreme law of the United States legally rests.

This is solely because "We The People," with faith in the righteousness of our cause, and in full assurance of the support of our Creator, fought and bled for our freedom, and ultimately triumphed over a despotic Dictator-King.

Superseding the original seven Articles of Confederation, the nation's first constitution, on March 4, 1789, the U.S. Constitution delineates the national frame of the federal government, and, when legally and lawfully adhered to, constrains the powers thereof.

it is in "We, The People" as screened through our ratified Constitution that all governmental power rightfully, legally and supremely resides, whether being manifested on-our-behalf by an appointed and confirmed administrative governmental official or department head, or a duly elected congress, or president.

Just as you say, all citizens do have the duty and the privilege to provide for themselves and their families; as the Scriptures proclaim in 1 Timothy 5:8: "But if any provide not for his own, and especially for those of his own household, he hath denied the faith and is worse than an infidel."

Although having within our own lives, for the most part personally rejected the evils, both private and public, that you have so aptly enunciated as destroying this nation (principally through the federal government's Department of Education which should never have been created); we, as a free, well clothed, well fed, well entertained and comfortable citizenry, have for the most part, minded our own business for decades, closing our eyes and our minds to the nation's educational system, as the knowledge of values has ceased being taught and the practice of virtue has been systematically drained from succeeding generations of our materially pampered and privileged youth, our own most precious responsibility, and this tottering nation's future hope.

It well may be, and is my fervent desire that God will spare this nation from further decline, and that there will be found sufficient numbers of unwoke, God fearing, mentally heads-on-straight, patriotic, twenty, thirty and forty year old citizens willing to do the physical hard work of rebuilding, as well as fighting militarily for this nation.

Only if God chooses to raise up Donald J. Trump, or a similar leader with his work ethic, skills of negotiation, determination, and love of this nation and its citizens, will this nation ever thrive again.

Finally, if we continue to turn our back upon Israel, as the Biden administration is now doing, God will turn His back upon us.

manning5me wrote:
Liberals, Your Day is Coming!

After 12 years of Biden and Obama executing all the wrong moves to Make America Great, the public majority, Christians and non-Christians alike, are going to rise up and see you defanged, defranchised, disassociated and disenfected, one way or another. .

We believe in the freedom and liberty we have enjoyed in America since inception. We believe in moral absolutes, not moral relativity. We believe in the Natural Law that under-girds our Constitution. We believe that citizens have the duty to provide for themselves and their families.

We totally reject Wokeness, we totally reject CRT, we totally reject Cancel Culture, we totally reject the Trans movement and its silly pronoun demands, we totally reject DEI, we totally reject Socialism and Communism, we totally reject Atheism and Agnosticism and every other idiotic moves you try.

We are loyal Americans and we support and defend the Constitution of the United States and its Amendments. We support our civil laws as written, and are dedicated Patriots.

We support our open and free markets with restraints.
We support our military free from Weak Woke Warriors, and support peace through strength.
We support our treaty commitments, especially with NATO, and others in Asia, such as Taiwan, Australia, New Zealand, and perhaps India in the future.

We deplore the runaway National Debt, and the spendthrift manner it was grown by liberals. The amount is obscene: $34 trillion! We must find the way out of this burden of the century.

We believe all citizens must be treated equally, whatever their race, color, or ethnic origin. This applies both before the law, and in daily life. We no longer accept the victimhood ploy of certain factions in our nation. Equality means equality.

We believe our nation must have strong police departments. The idiotic idea of defunding the police must be reversed throughout the nation.

We also believe strongly in the Second Amendment of the Constitution, and those who would disarm the citizenry must be admonished that the law is the law.

We also believe that our free speech law must be modified to allow arrest, prosecution and conviction of anyone on our soil that espouses 'Death to America,” 'Hate America”or closely aligned phrases in any language. The penalty should be deportation to their country of origin (with a forever ban on their return), or up to 15 years in prison for egregious incidents, followed by deportation and banning.

We believe there are factions of the Islamic faith that are dedicated to the overthrow of the US government in favor of an Islamic government some time in the future. The protection of religious freedom must not extend to these Muslims. Our Constitution is not a suicide pact.

We believe that illegal immigrants have no legal status in our country, they should be returned to their nation, and our borders controlled closely. To be a refugee, there must be a formally recognized war that causes that status. Cartel wars do not count. We must devise an immigration policy that makes sense. Whatever the current policy is, it is a travesty and its administration has been totally wrong-headed

Posted for comment.
/signed Manning/
Liberals, Your Day is Coming! br br After 12 year... (show quote)

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May 1, 2024 21:30:01   #
manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.
 
Zemirah wrote:
Manning,

I applaud your sentiment as you well articulate our beliefs and values, as well as the necessity of resisting and defeating the demonic ideology and perversions now gripping this land and the degradation it is imposing upon our youth.

The predicament in which "We The People" now find ourselves in this once great nation is doubly bitter for those of us who fought and triumphed over those who would have turned our nation and our world into unrelenting darkness in the mid 20th century, had we not encountered God's favor.

Those of our age, retired seventy, eighty and ninety year olds, who had the great privilege of growing to maturity in the greatest, most productive, most inventive country the world had ever seen, who through the grace of God, rescued the civilized world not once, but twice, from catastrophic World Wars I and II, only to watch in horror as every value we were ever taught in our youth, is now rejected and spit upon.

Your manifesto [public declaration of principles, policies, intentions, and beliefs] is a welcome reminder that in this United States, it is in The Constitution of the United States that the supreme law of the United States legally rests.

This is solely because "We The People," with faith in the righteousness of our cause, and in full assurance of the support of our Creator, fought and bled for our freedom, and ultimately triumphed over a despotic Dictator-King.

Superseding the original seven Articles of Confederation, the nation's first constitution, on March 4, 1789, the U.S. Constitution delineates the national frame of the federal government, and, when legally and lawfully adhered to, constrains the powers thereof.

it is in "We, The People" as screened through our ratified Constitution that all governmental power rightfully, legally and supremely resides, whether being manifested on-our-behalf by an appointed and confirmed administrative governmental official or department head, or a duly elected congress, or president.

Just as you say, all citizens do have the duty and the privilege to provide for themselves and their families; as the Scriptures proclaim in 1 Timothy 5:8: "But if any provide not for his own, and especially for those of his own household, he hath denied the faith and is worse than an infidel."

Although having within our own lives, for the most part personally rejected the evils, both private and public, that you have so aptly enunciated as destroying this nation (principally through the federal government's Department of Education which should never have been created); we, as a free, well clothed, well fed, well entertained and comfortable citizenry, have for the most part, minded our own business for decades, closing our eyes and our minds to the nation's educational system, as the knowledge of values has ceased being taught and the practice of virtue has been systematically drained from succeeding generations of our materially pampered and privileged youth, our own most precious responsibility, and this tottering nation's future hope.

It well may be, and is my fervent desire that God will spare this nation from further decline, and that there will be found sufficient numbers of unwoke, God fearing, mentally heads-on-straight, patriotic, twenty, thirty and forty year old citizens willing to do the physical hard work of rebuilding, as well as fighting militarily for this nation.

Only if God chooses to raise up Donald J. Trump, or a similar leader with his work ethic, skills of negotiation, determination, and love of this nation and its citizens, will this nation ever thrive again.

Finally, if we continue to turn our back upon Israel, as the Biden administration is now doing, God will turn His back upon us.
Manning, br br I applaud your sentiment as you we... (show quote)


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Your most gracious response is appreciated, Zemirah,
and I react to your repeating the phrase "We, the People" by revising my draft to reflect that fact strongly.
Yes, "of, by, and for the people!" in Lincoln's phrase.

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May 1, 2024 21:42:15   #
manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
I have to somewhat agree with Aggie and that is rare. I guess I'm closer to an agnostic.

I believe their is a God and will gladly argue that belief. I believe it is irrefutable. But I personally want no part of any religion. There very essence is against some of my principals. They are created by man and often used as a way of controlling people. Both religiously and politically. But I also believe that when properly led, they can be a great basis for raising children and forming political beliefs that are not evil. If you believe in your religion, go for it. Just stay within your religion and don't try to convince others, of other beliefs, that they need what you believe in to be saved.

I recently read something about Albert Einstein's religious beliefs. We were quite compatible. I prefer to just believe that we analyzed the issues and came to our own conclusions and not the cookie cutter format of some religion and really didn't meat our sincere beliefs.

Logically Right
I have to somewhat agree with Aggie and that is ra... (show quote)


It seems to me you are primarily against organized religion, not religious faith itself. I see your point clearly, since I struggle with churchgoing because of years of experience with the foibles of ministers and congregations. My faith is strong, but my contacts with these people in the church has shown them to be seriously misguided, over and over.

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May 1, 2024 22:11:13   #
Radiance3
 
manning5me wrote:
Liberals, Your Day is Coming!

After 12 years of Biden and Obama executing all the wrong moves to Make America Great, the public majority, Christians and non-Christians alike, are going to rise up and see you defanged, defranchised, disassociated and disenfected, one way or another. .

We believe in the freedom and liberty we have enjoyed in America since inception. We believe in moral absolutes, not moral relativity. We believe in the Natural Law that under-girds our Constitution. We believe that citizens have the duty to provide for themselves and their families.

We totally reject Wokeness, we totally reject CRT, we totally reject Cancel Culture, we totally reject the Trans movement and its silly pronoun demands, we totally reject DEI, we totally reject Socialism and Communism, we totally reject Atheism and Agnosticism and every other idiotic moves you try.

We are loyal Americans and we support and defend the Constitution of the United States and its Amendments. We support our civil laws as written, and are dedicated Patriots.

We support our open and free markets with restraints.
We support our military free from Weak Woke Warriors, and support peace through strength.
We support our treaty commitments, especially with NATO, and others in Asia, such as Taiwan, Australia, New Zealand, and perhaps India in the future.

We deplore the runaway National Debt, and the spendthrift manner it was grown by liberals. The amount is obscene: $34 trillion! We must find the way out of this burden of the century.

We believe all citizens must be treated equally, whatever their race, color, or ethnic origin. This applies both before the law, and in daily life. We no longer accept the victimhood ploy of certain factions in our nation. Equality means equality.

We believe our nation must have strong police departments. The idiotic idea of defunding the police must be reversed throughout the nation.

We also believe strongly in the Second Amendment of the Constitution, and those who would disarm the citizenry must be admonished that the law is the law.

We also believe that our free speech law must be modified to allow arrest, prosecution and conviction of anyone on our soil that espouses 'Death to America,” 'Hate America”or closely aligned phrases in any language. The penalty should be deportation to their country of origin (with a forever ban on their return), or up to 15 years in prison for egregious incidents, followed by deportation and banning.

We believe there are factions of the Islamic faith that are dedicated to the overthrow of the US government in favor of an Islamic government some time in the future. The protection of religious freedom must not extend to these Muslims. Our Constitution is not a suicide pact.

We believe that illegal immigrants have no legal status in our country, they should be returned to their nation, and our borders controlled closely. To be a refugee, there must be a formally recognized war that causes that status. Cartel wars do not count. We must devise an immigration policy that makes sense. Whatever the current policy is, it is a travesty and its administration has been totally wrong-headed

Posted for comment.
/signed Manning/
Liberals, Your Day is Coming! br br After 12 year... (show quote)

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Those are wonderful manifesto. But with what are happening now under Joe Biden is impossible. We now experience the most violent times and most dangerous times of our lives. This crisis happens because of Joe Biden. Biden has brought this country to the worst condition in history, I've never thought could happen.

But here we are now, trying to survive in all the worst crisis in US history.

Violence and deaths are just lurking behind our shoulders all over, and I feel locked up in my home, afraid to go anywhere.
Watch UCLA, and Columbia U in NYC. It is war zone there. Where rug heads are beating our own people.

Joe Biden has planned to bring to the United States, the Muslim refugees in Gaza. Tens of millions will be here, and this will finalize the realization of Muslims to capture the whole world. The 9/11 Terror attack did not succeed, but Biden easily made it happen without using a finger, but his most stupid dangerous brain being managed by someone. Perhaps a Muslim.

Right there in all our colleges and universities are hundreds of thousands of rug heads, beating our own people, as they confiscate locations of the campuses for their own. Shouting, we are Hamas!

In addition, demanding that the government and taxpayers provide them supplies of food and all what they need to camp and take over America. I think Biden will feed them, using our own money.

As soon as Biden succeeds transforming those Muslims in GAZA to the US, we definitely are taken over. Muslims multiply like rabbits to take over the whole world. That's what they have planned all the way.

US is the final conquest, and then finally US becomes a Muslim territory. Biden did it! Are you happy now Marxist-Democrats? Your Biden did it finally realized what you all want.

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May 2, 2024 06:07:27   #
Radiance3
 
Zemirah wrote:
Manning,

I applaud your sentiment as you well articulate our beliefs and values, as well as the necessity of resisting and defeating the demonic ideology and perversions now gripping this land and the degradation it is imposing upon our youth.

The predicament in which "We The People" now find ourselves in this once great nation is doubly bitter for those of us who fought and triumphed over those who would have turned our nation and our world into unrelenting darkness in the mid 20th century, had we not encountered God's favor.

Those of our age, retired seventy, eighty and ninety year olds, who had the great privilege of growing to maturity in the greatest, most productive, most inventive country the world had ever seen, who through the grace of God, rescued the civilized world not once, but twice, from catastrophic World Wars I and II, only to watch in horror as every value we were ever taught in our youth, is now rejected and spit upon.

Your manifesto [public declaration of principles, policies, intentions, and beliefs] is a welcome reminder that in this United States, it is in The Constitution of the United States that the supreme law of the United States legally rests.

This is solely because "We The People," with faith in the righteousness of our cause, and in full assurance of the support of our Creator, fought and bled for our freedom, and ultimately triumphed over a despotic Dictator-King.

Superseding the original seven Articles of Confederation, the nation's first constitution, on March 4, 1789, the U.S. Constitution delineates the national frame of the federal government, and, when legally and lawfully adhered to, constrains the powers thereof.

it is in "We, The People" as screened through our ratified Constitution that all governmental power rightfully, legally and supremely resides, whether being manifested on-our-behalf by an appointed and confirmed administrative governmental official or department head, or a duly elected congress, or president.

Just as you say, all citizens do have the duty and the privilege to provide for themselves and their families; as the Scriptures proclaim in 1 Timothy 5:8: "But if any provide not for his own, and especially for those of his own household, he hath denied the faith and is worse than an infidel."

Although having within our own lives, for the most part personally rejected the evils, both private and public, that you have so aptly enunciated as destroying this nation (principally through the federal government's Department of Education which should never have been created); we, as a free, well clothed, well fed, well entertained and comfortable citizenry, have for the most part, minded our own business for decades, closing our eyes and our minds to the nation's educational system, as the knowledge of values has ceased being taught and the practice of virtue has been systematically drained from succeeding generations of our materially pampered and privileged youth, our own most precious responsibility, and this tottering nation's future hope.

It well may be, and is my fervent desire that God will spare this nation from further decline, and that there will be found sufficient numbers of unwoke, God fearing, mentally heads-on-straight, patriotic, twenty, thirty and forty year old citizens willing to do the physical hard work of rebuilding, as well as fighting militarily for this nation.

Only if God chooses to raise up Donald J. Trump, or a similar leader with his work ethic, skills of negotiation, determination, and love of this nation and its citizens, will this nation ever thrive again.

Finally, if we continue to turn our back upon Israel, as the Biden administration is now doing, God will turn His back upon us.
Manning, br br I applaud your sentiment as you we... (show quote)

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Greatly stated!

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May 2, 2024 06:17:48   #
DAV
 
manning5me wrote:
Liberals, Your Day is Coming!

After 12 years of Biden and Obama executing all the wrong moves to Make America Great, the public majority, Christians and non-Christians alike, are going to rise up and see you defanged, defranchised, disassociated and disenfected, one way or another. .

We believe in the freedom and liberty we have enjoyed in America since inception. We believe in moral absolutes, not moral relativity. We believe in the Natural Law that under-girds our Constitution. We believe that citizens have the duty to provide for themselves and their families.

We totally reject Wokeness, we totally reject CRT, we totally reject Cancel Culture, we totally reject the Trans movement and its silly pronoun demands, we totally reject DEI, we totally reject Socialism and Communism, we totally reject Atheism and Agnosticism and every other idiotic moves you try.

We are loyal Americans and we support and defend the Constitution of the United States and its Amendments. We support our civil laws as written, and are dedicated Patriots.

We support our open and free markets with restraints.
We support our military free from Weak Woke Warriors, and support peace through strength.
We support our treaty commitments, especially with NATO, and others in Asia, such as Taiwan, Australia, New Zealand, and perhaps India in the future.

We deplore the runaway National Debt, and the spendthrift manner it was grown by liberals. The amount is obscene: $34 trillion! We must find the way out of this burden of the century.

We believe all citizens must be treated equally, whatever their race, color, or ethnic origin. This applies both before the law, and in daily life. We no longer accept the victimhood ploy of certain factions in our nation. Equality means equality.

We believe our nation must have strong police departments. The idiotic idea of defunding the police must be reversed throughout the nation.

We also believe strongly in the Second Amendment of the Constitution, and those who would disarm the citizenry must be admonished that the law is the law.

We also believe that our free speech law must be modified to allow arrest, prosecution and conviction of anyone on our soil that espouses 'Death to America,” 'Hate America”or closely aligned phrases in any language. The penalty should be deportation to their country of origin (with a forever ban on their return), or up to 15 years in prison for egregious incidents, followed by deportation and banning.

We believe there are factions of the Islamic faith that are dedicated to the overthrow of the US government in favor of an Islamic government some time in the future. The protection of religious freedom must not extend to these Muslims. Our Constitution is not a suicide pact.

We believe that illegal immigrants have no legal status in our country, they should be returned to their nation, and our borders controlled closely. To be a refugee, there must be a formally recognized war that causes that status. Cartel wars do not count. We must devise an immigration policy that makes sense. Whatever the current policy is, it is a travesty and its administration has been totally wrong-headed

Posted for comment.
/signed Manning/
Liberals, Your Day is Coming! br br After 12 year... (show quote)


Conservatives CONSERVE and Demonocrats DESTROY. TheIr reason-for-being is all about money and CONTROL; that is what they live for. They will sell their mama and their country for a dollar ! With people like this, we have never been a united country. Our country should be called the States Of America, or more correctly: The States Of North America. United, WE ARE NOT !

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May 2, 2024 10:29:31   #
TruePatriot49 Loc: The Democratic People's Republic Rhode Island
 
manning5me wrote:
Liberals, Your Day is Coming!

After 12 years of Biden and Obama executing all the wrong moves to Make America Great, the public majority, Christians and non-Christians alike, are going to rise up and see you defanged, defranchised, disassociated and disenfected, one way or another. .

We believe in the freedom and liberty we have enjoyed in America since inception. We believe in moral absolutes, not moral relativity. We believe in the Natural Law that under-girds our Constitution. We believe that citizens have the duty to provide for themselves and their families.

We totally reject Wokeness, we totally reject CRT, we totally reject Cancel Culture, we totally reject the Trans movement and its silly pronoun demands, we totally reject DEI, we totally reject Socialism and Communism, we totally reject Atheism and Agnosticism and every other idiotic moves you try.

We are loyal Americans and we support and defend the Constitution of the United States and its Amendments. We support our civil laws as written, and are dedicated Patriots.

We support our open and free markets with restraints.
We support our military free from Weak Woke Warriors, and support peace through strength.
We support our treaty commitments, especially with NATO, and others in Asia, such as Taiwan, Australia, New Zealand, and perhaps India in the future.

We deplore the runaway National Debt, and the spendthrift manner it was grown by liberals. The amount is obscene: $34 trillion! We must find the way out of this burden of the century.

We believe all citizens must be treated equally, whatever their race, color, or ethnic origin. This applies both before the law, and in daily life. We no longer accept the victimhood ploy of certain factions in our nation. Equality means equality.

We believe our nation must have strong police departments. The idiotic idea of defunding the police must be reversed throughout the nation.

We also believe strongly in the Second Amendment of the Constitution, and those who would disarm the citizenry must be admonished that the law is the law.

We also believe that our free speech law must be modified to allow arrest, prosecution and conviction of anyone on our soil that espouses 'Death to America,” 'Hate America”or closely aligned phrases in any language. The penalty should be deportation to their country of origin (with a forever ban on their return), or up to 15 years in prison for egregious incidents, followed by deportation and banning.

We believe there are factions of the Islamic faith that are dedicated to the overthrow of the US government in favor of an Islamic government some time in the future. The protection of religious freedom must not extend to these Muslims. Our Constitution is not a suicide pact.

We believe that illegal immigrants have no legal status in our country, they should be returned to their nation, and our borders controlled closely. To be a refugee, there must be a formally recognized war that causes that status. Cartel wars do not count. We must devise an immigration policy that makes sense. Whatever the current policy is, it is a travesty and its administration has been totally wrong-headed

Posted for comment.
/signed Manning/
Liberals, Your Day is Coming! br br After 12 year... (show quote)


Excellent, I totally agree.

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May 2, 2024 10:39:33   #
TruePatriot49 Loc: The Democratic People's Republic Rhode Island
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Twisted , misinformed , and feeding the wrong dogs.


Melonoma2, IMHO, I believe that if the leftist, progressive, liberal, communist Democrats continue to destroy America, they will the ones fed to the dogs. I also believe that feeding time will start if/when FJB writes an Executive Order banning firearms and confiscating them.

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May 2, 2024 10:56:21   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
TruePatriot49 wrote:
Melonoma2, IMHO, I believe that if the leftist, progressive, liberal, communist Democrats continue to destroy America, they will the ones fed to the dogs. I also believe that feeding time will start if/when FJB writes an Executive Order banning firearms and confiscating them.

TruePatriot49,

amend that last phrase of your last sentence to "...banning firearms, and attempts to confiscate them(!)," - and I am in complete agreement with your sentiment.

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May 2, 2024 15:54:45   #
TruePatriot49 Loc: The Democratic People's Republic Rhode Island
 
Zemirah wrote:
TruePatriot49,

amend that last phrase of your last sentence to "...banning firearms, and attempts to confiscate them(!)," - and I am in complete agreement with your sentiment.


Zemirah, that's what I meant to say. The British tried to confiscate firearms from the Colonists at Lexington and Concord. It didn't go the way they thought it would.
I found this comment online and liked it so I saved it.



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May 2, 2024 16:40:01   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
DAV wrote:
Conservatives CONSERVE and Demonocrats DESTROY. TheIr reason-for-being is all about money and CONTROL; that is what they live for. They will sell their mama and their country for a dollar ! With people like this, we have never been a united country. Our country should be called the States Of America, or more correctly: The States Of North America. United, WE ARE NOT !

DAV,

No idea has been more central to American identity - that is, Americans' conception of themselves as a people and a nation - than freedom. In this we have been united.

"If freedom of speech is taken away," George Washington told a group of military officers in 1783, "then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter."

Historically, "We The People," of this Constitutional Republic have always been united in our love of personal freedom, and we have benefited from a political system in which we have had the freedom to cast a secret ballot, the security of a well enforced system of law and justice, and border protection, rugged freedoms of speech, religious belief and worship, and a vast array of additional civil liberties.

It is true that in recent years our democratic institutions have been deliberately eroded by left leaning advocates of "freedom for me, but not for thee," as reflected in rising political inequality and extremism, partisan malfeasance of the electoral process, bias and dysfunction in the criminal justice system, illegal open door policies on immigration, and the indiscriminate admission of millions of illegal aliens under the guise of asylum seekers.

Freedom has historically united all America's as their enduring goal and ideal since the Mayflower merchant ship carried 102 passengers, including nearly 40 Protestant Separatists, on a journey from England to the New World in 1620.

Americans, since this country's inception have regarded it as the cradle of liberty, and an example to the world.

The central term in our political vocabulary, freedom - or liberty, with which it is almost always used interchangeably - is deeply embedded in the documentary record of our history and the language of everyday life. The Declaration of Independence lists liberty among mankind's inalienable rights; the Constitution announces as its purpose to secure liberty's blessings. The United States fought the Civil War to bring about a new birth of freedom, World War II for the Four Freedoms, the Cold War to defend the Free World. The war in Iraq had the title “Operation Iraqi Freedom.”

All Americans' love of freedom has been represented, celebrated and memorized by fireworks, liberty poles, caps, and statues, and acted out by setting British tea afloat, burning stamps and burning draft cards, individually running away from slavery, then, as an army, fighting to defeat slavery, and, as an elected government, outlawing it, and demonstrating for the right to vote.

Other peoples in other nations have cherished freedom, but "We the People" as evidenced in both our public and private discourse as a citizenry, have historically united more prominently, across this United States on this one issue than anyone anywhere else on earth.

Commenting on this common unity, “Every man in the street, white, black, red or yellow,” wrote the educator and statesman Ralph Bunche in 1940, “knows that this is ‘the land of the free’… [and] ‘the cradle of liberty.’”

Addendum: We must now individually determine the amount of time, energy, anxiety and personal inconvenience we are willing and able to expend, in prayer and supplication to our Creator God, and in yanking the chains of our mostly inactive state and federal senators and representatives, to prevent the liberty and freedom by which we have all been so blessed, from permanently slipping out the wide open door of the southern border which "We The People," have, for the most part over the last three and one half years, silently watched take form.

The Mayflower Merchant Ship enroute from England to the New World with 102 passengers in 1620
The Mayflower Merchant Ship enroute from England t...

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May 2, 2024 18:05:32   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
TruePatriot49 wrote:
Zemirah, that's what I meant to say. The British tried to confiscate firearms from the Colonists at Lexington and Concord. It didn't go the way they thought it would.
I found this comment online and liked it so I saved it.

My 6th great grandfather also fought in the Continental Army for George Washington in Virginia, True Patriot49, which gave me official membership in the DAR [Daughters of the American Revolution], although I've never attended their meetings.

Those men and their families risked life, limb, and property, and the cruel recriminations of the British - should their cause be lost.

How pitiful and weak we would appear to our forebears, with our creature comforts, our in house non-stop entertainments (TV, Video Player, Movies-on-Demand, Computers, Radios, Mobile Phones) and the front door delivery of prepared foods arriving from giant Super Markets...

and yet, during the decades since WWII, "We The People" had not the time to prevent this nation from descending into the moral decadence and political upheaval which they would clearly find today.

It is, perhaps, an act of mercy that in the Bible, Jesus tells us the dead cannot communicate with the living, or we with them, as there is a great chasm separating us which no one can cross. (Luke 16:26)

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