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Apr 30, 2024 14:07:47   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
martsiva wrote:
TJMKO is a communist who wants the ATF to just confiscate firearms from law abiding citizens which she has stated more than once on this forum - just like communist do! She uses the tired worn out lie that less guns less deaths when in reality it would leave Americans defenseless against a tyrannical government and at the mercy of criminals who always have guns.


If memory serves, Maine instituted Constitutional Carry and their crime has dropped dramatically.

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Apr 30, 2024 14:09:34   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
TJKMO wrote:
Yes.
Can you support yours?
I thought not.


It was not I who stated the guns had been stolen; therefore, I do not have to prove an unsubstantiated statement.

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Apr 30, 2024 14:12:01   #
martsiva
 
TJKMO wrote:
We have been stupid about guns for TOO LONG.
Glad you agree.
I don’t agree with you that cop killers are funny.
You are sick for suggesting it is funny.


Point out JUST WHERE Weasel said cop killers are funny!! No - YOU are sick for saying that he did!!

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Apr 30, 2024 14:14:33   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
martsiva wrote:
TJMKO is a communist who wants the ATF to just confiscate firearms from law abiding citizens which she has stated more than once on this forum - just like communist do! She uses the tired worn out lie that less guns less deaths when in reality it would leave Americans defenseless against a tyrannical government and at the mercy of criminals who always have guns.


It seems to me that the issue has gone sideways...

What happened is that a convicted felon who did not have the right to posses a gun, had one.. that means that the existing law somehow did not get enforced. what we need is not yammering about changing any laws.. but rather find the reason the current law did not work. did a clerk overlook his felon status, did a buddy or other middle man buy the gun for him, did he steal the gun..

Each time this sort of killing happens, we fight over new laws or not... but most times it is not anything other than existing laws were not enforced.. It is far past time to put an end to that failure.. then perhaps it will become evident what if any new regulations should be put in place..

It is very clear for many years, something just naturally has to be done.. . Enforcement or new additional laws.

Or most probable, Both.

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Apr 30, 2024 14:18:07   #
martsiva
 
TJKMO wrote:
I don’t support guns.
They kill cops.
You support guns.
You support cop killing.


What a totally asinine, stupid, stupid comment!! It is YOU who supports killing, period, with you wanting the ATF to just confiscate guns from law abiding citizens leaving them defenseless against criminals who always have guns!! You support the deaths of American citizens just like communists do!!

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Apr 30, 2024 14:19:37   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
While violent crime is down across the country, that does not mean it is no longer a problem... the count shows personal crime is much lower as has been the pattern for decades.. but property crime is up.. sad to say..

this incident of course is not about property.. but focus must be applied to the part of the crime stats that show need.. Killing of course is the top rung and demands action weather increasing or decreasing..

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Apr 30, 2024 14:27:15   #
TJKMO Loc: Bicycle Heaven
 
proud republican wrote:
You support an idiot in the White House.. Trump is beating biden by 6 pts...


Trump said he doesn’t think polls are accurate.

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Apr 30, 2024 14:31:31   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
permafrost wrote:
It seems to me that the issue has gone sideways...

What happened is that a convicted felon who did not have the right to posses a gun, had one.. that means that the existing law somehow did not get enforced. what we need is not yammering about changing any laws.. but rather find the reason the current law did not work. did a clerk overlook his felon status, did a buddy or other middle man buy the gun for him, did he steal the gun..

Each time this sort of killing happens, we fight over new laws or not... but most times it is not anything other than existing laws were not enforced.. It is far past time to put an end to that failure.. then perhaps it will become evident what if any new regulations should be put in place..

It is very clear for many years, something just naturally has to be done.. . Enforcement or new additional laws.

Or most probable, Both.
It seems to me that the issue has gone sideways...... (show quote)


Truthfully, the more important question is why the Marshalls and LEOs did not have their vests on!! We are talking about felony gun warrant. Somebody’s you know what best receive a written reprimand for such a major decision failure!!!!!!!

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Apr 30, 2024 14:32:37   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
martsiva wrote:
Point out JUST WHERE Weasel said cop killers are funny!! No - YOU are sick for saying that he did!!


No, she is a liar.

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Apr 30, 2024 14:33:55   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
AuntiE wrote:
Truthfully, the more important question is why the Marshalls and LEOs did not have their vests on!! We are talking about felony gun warrant. Somebody’s you know what best receive a written reprimand for such a major decision failure!!!!!!!


Yes, I would think that would be the first concern before starting the raid...

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Apr 30, 2024 14:39:30   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
permafrost wrote:
Yes, I would think that would be the first concern before starting the raid...


Has there been flies around, when I read the news, they could have been dinner as my mouth was agape at the news indicating they had no vests on.

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Apr 30, 2024 14:43:52   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
AuntiE wrote:
Has there been flies around, when I read the news, they could have been dinner as my mouth was agape at the news indicating they had no vests on.


Now that you have mentioned it.. seems more and more strange and hard to get a grip on being so unprepared...

Those darn flys,,,, always well fed...

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Apr 30, 2024 14:46:44   #
martsiva
 
TJKMO wrote:
Your perception has failed you yet again.
Pity.

Your false sense of security is your downfall. Hubris is well known as a prelude to FAILURE.


You mean like your hubris that the ATF is going to un-Constitutionally confiscate guns from law abiding American citizens like you and your fellow communists want? That kind of hubris??

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Apr 30, 2024 14:48:11   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
permafrost wrote:
Now that you have mentioned it.. seems more and more strange and hard to get a grip on being so unprepared...

Those darn flys,,,, always well fed...


Speaking of, annd off topic, I may have to give up my morning banana. It seems they arrive with a whole swath of fruit flies.

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Apr 30, 2024 14:49:17   #
martsiva
 
TJKMO wrote:
https://www.odmp.org/officer/27031-officer-william-alden-elliot


And this proves PR lied - HOW??

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