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Apr 29, 2024 14:42:18   #
Bidentrump
 
Justice101 wrote:
LOL. What kind of evidence does Bragg have on Trump? Pitiful that they can't even Name what crime he committed.
Even the liberal lawyers on TV are saying this is a ridiculous trial, with a biased judge placing an unconstitutional gag order on Trump while the witnesses are free to attack him with lies. The witnesses should have been gagged as well.

You obviously don't know much about the law. Your feelings don't replace the facts.


My feelings is not involved here.

If Bragg can prove Trump committed a crime, and the Jury agrees, then that's that.

If Bragg cannot prove and the Jury finds Trump NOT guilty, then that's that.

That's the process in the court of law. I'm not saying they are always right, but that's the process.
Without this process, then we have chaos.

Is that just based on my feelings? Or is it the FACTS and rule of law?

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Apr 29, 2024 14:50:51   #
Bidentrump
 
microphor wrote:
We all watch biden bragg about getting a prosecutor fired who was investigating his son's company in ukraine. Out of the criminal's mouth that's enough evidence for me


Now, who's talking about "feelings vs. Facts". Let the courts do their job. That's what it's for.

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Apr 29, 2024 14:53:37   #
Bidentrump
 
JFlorio wrote:
They can never debate facts, just innuendo and opinion. You know they are delusional when they say stuff like, If Trump was anyone else he'd be in jail. If Trump was anyone else these ridiculous cases would never have been brought. The few on here are just trolls and if not they're just stupid.


Yes, the two tiered system seems to go both ways.
Is that fair to say?

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Apr 29, 2024 14:56:41   #
Bidentrump
 
JFlorio wrote:
The Judge decided to be the Judge, Jury and "executioner" in that case.


And that's within the rule of law. Otherwise, the judge cannot do that.

And the judge became all those because trumps lawyer agreed to it or too late to object to it.

Who's fault was that?

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Apr 29, 2024 15:33:28   #
Justice101
 
Bidentrump wrote:
Yes, because I make sense. Something you Trumpets want to deny. The truth and the facts, you want to make excuses and turn a blind eye.

Last question:

If Trump doesnt plan to break the law, or hasnt broken any law, then why does he want immunity?

If you TRUMP fans can answer that question with something that makes sense. I'm listening and open to your answers. Thank You!!!


Presidential immunity is essential to keeping the country from becoming a banana republic in which the former President is arrested by the opposing party once they leave office for doing their job.

Every American Presidents’ decision-making in office would be constrained by the possibility they could be arrested for the slightest issue after leaving the White House.

Trump pointed out on Truth Social that throwing out Presidential immunity opens the door for Biden to be prosecuted.

If Trump returns to the White House after the 2024 election, the elimination of Presidential immunity would allow the Trump Justice Department to charge Biden and former President Barack Obama for a slew of crimes they committed in office.

In 2011, Obama unilaterally ordered a drone strike that killed American citizen Anwar al-Awlaki and his teenage son without a trial.

Should the Supreme Court reject Presidential immunity, it would allow a Trump Justice Department to try Obama for murdering American citizens.

Democrats are trying to destroy the Constitution in their quest to get Donald Trump without thinking about the consequences of their foolish actions.

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Apr 29, 2024 15:48:25   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
Justice101 wrote:
Presidential immunity is essential to keeping the country from becoming a banana republic in which the former President is arrested by the opposing party once they leave office for doing their job.

Every American Presidents’ decision-making in office would be constrained by the possibility they could be arrested for the slightest issue after leaving the White House.

Trump pointed out on Truth Social that throwing out Presidential immunity opens the door for Biden to be prosecuted.

If Trump returns to the White House after the 2024 election, the elimination of Presidential immunity would allow the Trump Justice Department to charge Biden and former President Barack Obama for a slew of crimes they committed in office.

In 2011, Obama unilaterally ordered a drone strike that killed American citizen Anwar al-Awlaki and his teenage son without a trial.

Should the Supreme Court reject Presidential immunity, it would allow a Trump Justice Department to try Obama for murdering American citizens.

Democrats are trying to destroy the Constitution in their quest to get Donald Trump without thinking about the consequences of their foolish actions.
Presidential immunity is essential to keeping the ... (show quote)


Should SCOTUS GIVE DJ what he wants, blanket immunity, and he IS elected in November, then he would be able to order a drone strike on anyone he dislikes. Go out and shoot someone in the middle of 6th Ave. Put anyone in jail who disagrees with him. He’d probably put Biden in jail without a trial by EO because that’s the only thing that can be done about all those “illegal” things Biden has done since “Presidents are immune from prosecution for “official acts.”

Is that really what YOU want?

I know who I believe is trying to destroy our Constitution, and it isn’t Joe Biden.

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Apr 29, 2024 15:49:21   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Justice101 wrote:
Presidential immunity is essential to keeping the country from becoming a banana republic in which the former President is arrested by the opposing party once they leave office for doing their job.

Every American Presidents’ decision-making in office would be constrained by the possibility they could be arrested for the slightest issue after leaving the White House.

Trump pointed out on Truth Social that throwing out Presidential immunity opens the door for Biden to be prosecuted.

If Trump returns to the White House after the 2024 election, the elimination of Presidential immunity would allow the Trump Justice Department to charge Biden and former President Barack Obama for a slew of crimes they committed in office.

In 2011, Obama unilaterally ordered a drone strike that killed American citizen Anwar al-Awlaki and his teenage son without a trial.

Should the Supreme Court reject Presidential immunity, it would allow a Trump Justice Department to try Obama for murdering American citizens.

Democrats are trying to destroy the Constitution in their quest to get Donald Trump without thinking about the consequences of their foolish actions.
Presidential immunity is essential to keeping the ... (show quote)


Won't make a dent with that block head. Biden's the tyrant wannabe. It wasn't Trump who went ahead and ignored the highest Court in the land dealing with student loan forgiveness. If the DOJ wasn't corrupt they'd have prosecuted Biden for this. Same with the documents addle brain had all over the place. Prosecute one, must prosecute the other.

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Apr 29, 2024 15:58:57   #
Bidentrump
 
Justice101 wrote:
Presidential immunity is essential to keeping the country from becoming a banana republic in which the former President is arrested by the opposing party once they leave office for doing their job.

Every American Presidents’ decision-making in office would be constrained by the possibility they could be arrested for the slightest issue after leaving the White House.

Trump pointed out on Truth Social that throwing out Presidential immunity opens the door for Biden to be prosecuted.

If Trump returns to the White House after the 2024 election, the elimination of Presidential immunity would allow the Trump Justice Department to charge Biden and former President Barack Obama for a slew of crimes they committed in office.

In 2011, Obama unilaterally ordered a drone strike that killed American citizen Anwar al-Awlaki and his teenage son without a trial.

Should the Supreme Court reject Presidential immunity, it would allow a Trump Justice Department to try Obama for murdering American citizens.

Democrats are trying to destroy the Constitution in their quest to get Donald Trump without thinking about the consequences of their foolish actions.
Presidential immunity is essential to keeping the ... (show quote)


So the immunity trump is fighing for is to protect Biden and Obama? Lol
Ok, I get it now. NOT!!!

They are already protected because those are "official acts as Presidents ".

Nixons case were not official acts, they were criminal acts. And Trump wants to be immune from those criminal acts which he may have committed or will commit.

That's what his immunity case is about. It's not about Obama or Biden or anyone else. It's all About Trumps protection for himself from the law.
If Obama was not immuned to begin with, Trump could have filed a case against him, when he was president

He makes it sound good by saying to protect other Presidents. But those Presidents already knew they are protected from those "official acts". So there's no need to have immunity for those official acts because they are already immuned.

Trump wants it for his own alleged criminal acts or whatever criminal acts he will commit if he becomes president again.

Do u really think trump really wants to protect Obama or Biden from prosecution? Lol

That's what this case is about!!!

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Apr 29, 2024 16:28:03   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Bidentrump wrote:
Yes, because I make sense. Something you Trumpets want to deny. The truth and the facts, you want to make excuses and turn a blind eye.

Last question:

If Trump doesnt plan to break the law, or hasnt broken any law, then why does he want immunity?

If you TRUMP fans can answer that question with something that makes sense. I'm listening and open to your answers. Thank You!!!


Question: How much coin of the Realm did you figure it cost to "pay" attention? Too much? OK, here's a freebie for you.

Of course Trump is concerned with his own Presidential immunity, the barrage of Democrat lawfare attacks against him are reason enough, yet his vision is more far reaching than personal. He is very much aware this is an issue that can neuter every future President. The Left doesn't care. They hate Trump so fiercely and want to destroy and imprison him regardless of any consequences; they are willing to destroy everything in their path to destroy Trump, especially when the ultimate objective is to destroy the Republic and people like you are willing unwitting precipitants.

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Apr 29, 2024 17:05:27   #
Justice101
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Should SCOTUS GIVE DJ what he wants, blanket immunity, and he IS elected in November, then he would be able to order a drone strike on anyone he dislikes. Go out and shoot someone in the middle of 6th Ave. Put anyone in jail who disagrees with him. He’d probably put Biden in jail without a trial by EO because that’s the only thing that can be done about all those “illegal” things Biden has done since “Presidents are immune from prosecution for “official acts.”

Is that really what YOU want?

I know who I believe is trying to destroy our Constitution, and it isn’t Joe Biden.
Should SCOTUS GIVE DJ what he wants, blanket immun... (show quote)




Every American Presidents’ decision-making in office would be constrained by the possibility they could be arrested for the slightest issue after leaving the White House.

Contesting an election has never been illegal until the DemocRats tried to make it a crime using lawfare.
Heck, the Dems are throwing charges at Trump in the Manhattan trial and seeing if they stick to the wall.

Biden spits on the Constitution every chance he gets with his illegal vote buying schemes that are hidden by his illegal loan forgiveness. The vaccination mandates for Businesses with 100 employees or more, his ignoring the immigration laws of the US and suing Texas when they are defending themselves against an invasion and ignoring SCOTUS and extending the rent moratorium which hurt landlords and their ability to pay mortgages.
These are just a few of the easily provable Biden abuses of power.

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Apr 29, 2024 17:06:14   #
Bidentrump
 
padremike wrote:
Question: How much coin of the Realm did you figure it cost to "pay" attention? Too much? OK, here's a freebie for you.

Of course Trump is concerned with his own Presidential immunity, the barrage of Democrat lawfare attacks against him are reason enough, yet his vision is more far reaching than personal. He is very much aware this is an issue that can neuter every future President. The Left doesn't care. They hate Trump so fiercely and want to destroy and imprison him regardless of any consequences; they are willing to destroy everything in their path to destroy Trump, especially when the ultimate objective is to destroy the Republic and people like you are willing unwitting precipitants.
Question: How much coin of the Realm did you figu... (show quote)


So, this whole immunity is about Political issues? Not Rule of Law? Wow!

Trump is a wisest and has the most creative mind and money, that most of us have ever heard. That's how he was able to get out of his many civil problems.
However, with the rule of Law, he has lost many times. His "FRAUD cases", and assault cases, he lost.

So now, he's fighting for his alleged criminal acts. So he's trying everything his creative mind can compile to get out of his ordeals.

This is NOT about neutering anything. It's about TRUMP trying to get away with his alleged criminal behavior. Because he's afraid he will be found GUILTY of those many charges.

That's another freebie for u.

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Apr 29, 2024 17:15:26   #
Bidentrump
 
microphor wrote:
You know when the speech was taking place, there were guards on one side of the Capitol building letting people in, holding the door open, smiling and talking to them. Yes I believe those people who were "allowed to enter the building should be set free". I also believe that man who shot an unarmed woman who was not a direct threat should be in prison. I also believe that those who forced their way in, assaulted officers and/or encourage the behavior should be tried and convicted if found guilty. But no, they shouldn't sit in jail for months or years awaiting trial with no opportunity of bail, not in America. That's a Chinese thing isn't it? Oh maybe that's why the Dems are doing it, practicing for the future!!!!
You know when the speech was taking place, there w... (show quote)


Im sure those people who just walked in and did not break any law did not get arrested. If they did not break the law, there's nothing to be guilty of. If they can prove that they are innocent.

So, if they did broke the law, they should pay for their crime. Wouldn't u want proven criminals to pay for their crimes?

That's the rule of law!!!

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Apr 29, 2024 17:41:24   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Should SCOTUS GIVE DJ what he wants, blanket immunity, and he IS elected in November, then he would be able to order a drone strike on anyone he dislikes. Go out and shoot someone in the middle of 6th Ave. Put anyone in jail who disagrees with him. He’d probably put Biden in jail without a trial by EO because that’s the only thing that can be done about all those “illegal” things Biden has done since “Presidents are immune from prosecution for “official acts.”

Is that really what YOU want?

I know who I believe is trying to destroy our Constitution, and it isn’t Joe Biden.
Should SCOTUS GIVE DJ what he wants, blanket immun... (show quote)


You're just about as stupid as a couple female leftist SCOTUS Associate Justices. Why didn't you start off prefacing your comment with. "Once upon a time?" 237 years of history and we didn't have crazy fools making up bull shit scenarios to justify their radical rabid attack against a man who has given no rational reason for this sort of concern. I remind you that Trump is a caricature of a man designed by the DNC State Controlled Marxist Media Propaganda Bureau's to hate. They want you to hate him and they have invested everything to make certain you hate him and many of you were dumb enough to fall for it and now you feel justified and self-righteous in your hatred. How's all that hate working out for you?

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Apr 29, 2024 17:51:06   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Bidentrump wrote:
So, this whole immunity is about Political issues? Not Rule of Law? Wow!

Trump is a wisest and has the most creative mind and money, that most of us have ever heard. That's how he was able to get out of his many civil problems.
However, with the rule of Law, he has lost many times. His "FRAUD cases", and assault cases, he lost.

So now, he's fighting for his alleged criminal acts. So he's trying everything his creative mind can compile to get out of his ordeals.

This is NOT about neutering anything. It's about TRUMP trying to get away with his alleged criminal behavior. Because he's afraid he will be found GUILTY of those many charges.

That's another freebie for u.
So, this whole immunity is about Political issues?... (show quote)


Don't you dare speak of the Rule of Law! You basxxrds have destroyed it with your two tier justice system and the lawfare employed against Trump. Once the Rule of Law was destroyed by you traitors we can no longer legitimately call ourselves a Republic. Quite frankly, I don't know what the bloody hell to call us anymore.

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Apr 29, 2024 17:56:59   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
padremike wrote:
Don't you dare speak of the Rule of Law! You basxxrds have destroyed it with your two tier justice system and the lawfare employed against Trump. Once the Rule of Law was destroyed by you traitors we can no longer legitimately call ourselves a Republic. Quite frankly, I don't know what the bloody hell to call us anymore.


Padre. Don’t get worked up over this fool. That’s why he’s here. No ones that stupid accidentally.

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