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Apr 26, 2024 05:48:29   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
Smart people know to avoid fallacies.

One of them is known as the fallacy of post hoc ergo propter hoc.

It’s Latin for “after this, therefore because of this.”

The classic example concerns the rooster and the sunrise.

Every morning before the sun comes up, the rooster does his crazy crowing routine, waking up everyone around. Shortly after, the light begins to appear on the horizon.

If you knew nothing else, and you watched this happen over and over, you might conclude that the rooster is causing the sun to rise.

Of course, this is testable. You could kill the rooster and see what happens. The sun still comes up. But wait just a moment. Just the fact that this one rooster is dead doesn’t mean that all roosters are gone. Some rooster somewhere is crowing and causing the sun to rise. So your little experiment doesn’t disprove the theory.

What a conundrum, right?

If someone is convinced that a bird is controlling the sun, there is probably no way to convince him otherwise.

We can laugh at this example. How can someone be so dumb? Actually, this basic fallacy affects all science in all times, all places, and all subjects.

MY COMMENT: Examples: 1) Look, California’s cases are down and California bans gatherings, therefore coercive measures are controlling virus spread! 2) Countless famous people took to social media to announce they had COVID-19 but it was a mild case thanks to the vaccine, or 3) I took the vaccine and got weak, tired, and a bad headache, so I know the vaccine was working!

https://www.theepochtimes.com/opinion/the-fallacy-that-rules-the-world-5635419?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=ZeroHedge



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Apr 26, 2024 07:47:51   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
In the first year or so of the pandemic, before vaccine availability when people were only able to use social distancing and masks to avoid infection with the virus, Republican COVID deaths were 2.5% higher than Dems.

After May 1, 2021, when vaccines were available to all adults, deaths were 7.7% higher among Republicans.

"After May 1, 2021, when vaccines were available to all adults, the excess death rate gap between Republican and Democratic ; the excess death rate among Republican voters was 43% higher than the excess death rate among Democratic voters. The gap in excess death rates between Republican and Democratic voters was larger in counties with lower vaccination rates and was primarily noted in voters residing in Ohio."

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2807617

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Apr 26, 2024 08:01:19   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
NotMAGA wrote:
In the first year or so of the pandemic, before vaccine availability when people were only able to use social distancing and masks to avoid infection with the virus, Republican COVID deaths were 2.5% higher than Dems.

After May 1, 2021, when vaccines were available to all adults, deaths were 7.7% higher among Republicans.

"After May 1, 2021, when vaccines were available to all adults, the excess death rate gap between Republican and Democratic ; the excess death rate among Republican voters was 43% higher than the excess death rate among Democratic voters. The gap in excess death rates between Republican and Democratic voters was larger in counties with lower vaccination rates and was primarily noted in voters residing in Ohio."

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2807617
In the first year or so of the pandemic, before va... (show quote)


What is the point you are trying to make here? Switch your party affiliation from Republican to Democrat in order to increase your survival rate?

I could suggest to you several alternative theories, one of which is that "hot loads" were directed to more conservative areas, and "mild loads" or "placebos" were directed to liberal or Blue States. But then I might be accused as being a "conspiracy theorist", so I would NEVER make that statment! LOL

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Apr 26, 2024 08:08:52   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
NotMAGA wrote:
In the first year or so of the pandemic, before vaccine availability when people were only able to use social distancing and masks to avoid infection with the virus, Republican COVID deaths were 2.5% higher than Dems.

After May 1, 2021, when vaccines were available to all adults, deaths were 7.7% higher among Republicans.

"After May 1, 2021, when vaccines were available to all adults, the excess death rate gap between Republican and Democratic ; the excess death rate among Republican voters was 43% higher than the excess death rate among Democratic voters. The gap in excess death rates between Republican and Democratic voters was larger in counties with lower vaccination rates and was primarily noted in voters residing in Ohio."

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2807617
In the first year or so of the pandemic, before va... (show quote)


Republican voters tend to be older than Democrat voters...

Wonder if age played a part in the death rate??🤔🤔🤔

Just joking....Everyone agrees that Covid hit the elderly the hardest by far...

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Apr 26, 2024 08:20:30   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Republican voters tend to be older than Democrat voters...

Wonder if age played a part in the death rate??🤔🤔🤔

Just joking....Everyone agrees that Covid hit the elderly the hardest by far...


Good point! Quite logical.

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Apr 26, 2024 08:29:46   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Republican voters tend to be older than Democrat voters...

Wonder if age played a part in the death rate??🤔🤔🤔

Just joking....Everyone agrees that Covid hit the elderly the hardest by far...


You're not looking at the stats. Before the pandemic (which was why they started with 2028 stats) there was a 0.9% higher death rate among R's than D's - which could be because R's tend to be older (or don't wash their hands as often 😉).

After the pandemic started but before vaccines were available the difference went up to 2.5% as more R's refused to follow the common sense things to help prevent infection. More infections = higher death rate.

After vaccines became available, there was a truly marked difference as more R's decided the vaccine was something else - a time bomb that would eventually kill you or something. Who knows. But the results speak for themselves...
7.7% more deaths among Republicans than Democrats between May 15 and Dec. 31 of 2021 - and if you really delve into the numbers, there is less of a percentage of difference between deaths in the OLDER population, because more elderly people got that vaccine, no matter their party.

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Apr 26, 2024 08:32:32   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
NotMAGA wrote:
You're not looking at the stats. Before the pandemic (which was why they started with 2028 stats) there was a 0.9% higher death rate among R's than D's - which could be because R's tend to be older (or don't wash their hands as often 😉).

After the pandemic started but before vaccines were available the difference went up to 2.5% as more R's refused to follow the common sense things to help prevent infection. More infections = higher death rate.

After vaccines became available, there was a truly marked difference as more R's decided the vaccine was something else - a time bomb that would eventually kill you or something. Who knows. But the results speak for themselves...
7.7% more deaths among Republicans than Democrats between May 15 and Dec. 31 of 2021 - and if you really delve into the numbers, there is less of a percentage of difference between deaths in the OLDER population, because more elderly people got that vaccine, no matter their party.
You're not looking at the stats. Before the pandem... (show quote)


Ok that settles it then. Must change parties!

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Apr 26, 2024 08:34:30   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
ACP45 wrote:
Ok that settles it then. Must change parties!


Yes!! Or maybe a science course or two.

Still COVID free here...

If you don't hear from me after 2026 you'll know those vaccines kicked in.

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Apr 26, 2024 08:35:12   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
ACP45 wrote:
What is the point you are trying to make here? Switch your party affiliation from Republican to Democrat in order to increase your survival rate?

I could suggest to you several alternative theories, one of which is that "hot loads" were directed to more conservative areas, and "mild loads" or "placebos" were directed to liberal or Blue States. But then I might be accused as being a "conspiracy theorist", so I would NEVER make that statment! LOL
What is the point you are trying to make here? Swi... (show quote)


😂🤣 Sure. Let's go with that

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Apr 26, 2024 09:13:30   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
NotMAGA wrote:
You're not looking at the stats. Before the pandemic (which was why they started with 2028 stats) there was a 0.9% higher death rate among R's than D's - which could be because R's tend to be older (or don't wash their hands as often 😉).

After the pandemic started but before vaccines were available the difference went up to 2.5% as more R's refused to follow the common sense things to help prevent infection. More infections = higher death rate.

After vaccines became available, there was a truly marked difference as more R's decided the vaccine was something else - a time bomb that would eventually kill you or something. Who knows. But the results speak for themselves...
7.7% more deaths among Republicans than Democrats between May 15 and Dec. 31 of 2021 - and if you really delve into the numbers, there is less of a percentage of difference between deaths in the OLDER population, because more elderly people got that vaccine, no matter their party.
You're not looking at the stats. Before the pandem... (show quote)


You mean the vaccines (which didn't prevent Covid) were less effective for the elderly for some reason...weird???

It's almost as though Covid were some sort of biological entity that didn't care about party affiliation...

You were also more likely to die of Covid if you were religious... Guess it targeted faith too

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Apr 26, 2024 10:14:41   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
NotMAGA wrote:
In the first year or so of the pandemic, before vaccine availability when people were only able to use social distancing and masks to avoid infection with the virus, Republican COVID deaths were 2.5% higher than Dems.

After May 1, 2021, when vaccines were available to all adults, deaths were 7.7% higher among Republicans.

"After May 1, 2021, when vaccines were available to all adults, the excess death rate gap between Republican and Democratic ; the excess death rate among Republican voters was 43% higher than the excess death rate among Democratic voters. The gap in excess death rates between Republican and Democratic voters was larger in counties with lower vaccination rates and was primarily noted in voters residing in Ohio."

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2807617
In the first year or so of the pandemic, before va... (show quote)


"Mike Yeadon, the former head of respiratory research at Pfizer, and independent researcher Craig Paardekooper have sourced Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) data on vaccine deaths and injuries in the United States showing that "red," or conservative-leaning, states are seeing, on average, twice the number of covid "vaccine"-related deaths compared to "blue," or liberal-leaning, states.

VAERS, a government-run database, currently logs more than 700,000 adverse reactions caused by covid injections from Moderna, Pfizer, and Janssen (Johnson & Johnson) – these are the only three covid jabs that were emergency authorized and / or approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for use in the U.S.

Yeadon and Paardekooper's research led them to conclude that not all batches, or lots, of covid jabs are the same. Some lots are highly lethal while others are mostly harmless or even entirely placebo. More information about their methods and findings can be found at HowBadIsMyBatch.com and at HowBad.info.

"These vaccines have been deployed in different batches, officially referred to as lots," explains Greg Reese from Infowars. "This has allowed Yeadon's team to back-engineer Big Pharma's covid vaccine deployment agenda in the U.S."

"About 0.5% of all the different batches are highly toxic, resulting in hospitalization, disability, and death within days or weeks of injection. Other batches cause minimal adverse reactions and most seem to be harmless placebos." ...

"We know that Pfizer, Moderna, and Janssen have been quietly monitoring the lethal effectiveness of the specific deadly batches they deployed. And while one company is deploying a lethal batch, the other two are deploying harmless ones, creating the scientific environment to conduct dose-range finding, or the maximum tolerated dose for each lethal batch." ...

"Some states, in particular Kentucky, Montana, Alaska, Tennessee, North Dakota, and South Dakota, are experiencing 4x, 5x, 6x, even 11x the number of deaths per 100,000 vaccinated compared to other states," Paardekooper found.

"Such a situation should be raising a safety signal, and requires investigation. The higher death rate in these states following vaccination suggests that they may be receiving more toxic batches, or being administered to more vulnerable people."

MY COMMENT: It is not out of the realm of possibility that "hotter batches" of the vaccine could be sent to targeted areas. Too little of the "spike protein" may be ineffective, and too much may be more toxic. We know that mRNA therapy have had a history of problems being developed, and are a work in progress!



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Apr 26, 2024 10:30:12   #
currahee506
 
The Wuhan virus can be defeated with the stated over-the-counter medications and immunity build-up through social interaction NOT GOVERNMENT DICTATION.

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Apr 27, 2024 06:55:43   #
Mogon
 
currahee506 wrote:
The Wuhan virus can be defeated with the stated over-the-counter medications and immunity build-up through social interaction NOT GOVERNMENT DICTATION.


I was 56 in 2020, never wore a mask and didn’t get the death jab.
I walked into Walmart, Home Depot and grocery stores without a mask, the paid stooge told me I had to wear a mask and I replied “ no I don’t” and walked right past them. I was never asked to leave.
People are stupid beyond reason and will fall for anything the government tells them.
Proof of it being a complete sham is the CDC kept changing their story/stance every day!
At 60 I’m still here, just had a wellness check and the doc said I have the lungs sounds is a 20 year old. ( the fact that I still play ice hockey may have something to do with it) who knows!

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Apr 27, 2024 07:58:29   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
Mogon wrote:
I was 56 in 2020, never wore a mask and didn’t get the death jab.
I walked into Walmart, Home Depot and grocery stores without a mask, the paid stooge told me I had to wear a mask and I replied “ no I don’t” and walked right past them. I was never asked to leave.
People are stupid beyond reason and will fall for anything the government tells them.
Proof of it being a complete sham is the CDC kept changing their story/stance every day!
At 60 I’m still here, just had a wellness check and the doc said I have the lungs sounds is a 20 year old. ( the fact that I still play ice hockey may have something to do with it) who knows!
I was 56 in 2020, never wore a mask and didn’t get... (show quote)


https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2807617

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Apr 27, 2024 08:15:32   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
NotMAGA wrote:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2807617









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