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Apr 23, 2024 19:48:20   #
LindaK
 
Proud American Patriot wrote:
Yes, especially when the statute of limitations is done. Charging alleged federal crimes in state court, etc. Yeah, the same thing....not.
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Apr 23, 2024 19:49:44   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
WEBCO wrote:
Trump never abused the justice department. Biden sent the DOJs #3 man to go after trump


I call bull on both statements. Trump wanted Comey, as head of the FBI, to swear allegiance to him before the Constitution. That was very early. He fired Jeff Sessions because he wouldn't do everything he wanted him to. In the end he even replaced... Can't think of his name but the guy who replaced Sessions ... and Bill Barr, sleazy as he was about the Mueller document, resigned rather than help DJ try to over throw the 2020 election.
If Joe was going to use the DoJ for his own ends, he wouldn't have stayed hands off the investigation if his son - or himself for that matter.

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Apr 23, 2024 19:51:03   #
EmilyD
 
permafrost wrote:
What Comey did was make a dishonest press announcement 11 days before the election and the truth was withheld until after the election..

You trump lovers should consider Comey a hero.. he put the nail in the cross crucifying Lady Hillary in the flood of lies about her and with his life long republican indoctrination fell into the lying web the hard right put together for trump to slither into the oval even as he lost the election by 3 million votes.

One of the great crimes in the history of the US... Yet that crime clearly topped by the criminal trump nearly on a daily basis over the 4 years of suffering and humiliation trump put America through..

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/10/29/499868601/fbi-head-under-fire-for-restarting-clinton-email-investigation-days-before-elect

FBI Director James Comey is facing criticism for turning the agency's attention to newly discovered emails that could be linked to Hillary Clinton, again focusing on the former secretary of state just days before Election Day.

Former prosecutors and former Department of Justice officials are questioning what Comey hopes to accomplish by announcing the investigation so close to the election.

Comey notified members of Congress that the FBI was again looking into Clinton's use of a private email server. As NPR reported Friday, Comey's decision followed the discovery of emails that "came to light in the course of an unrelated criminal investigation of Anthony Weiner," who is being scrutinized for sexting an underage girl. But, as the the Associated Press reported, it's "unclear what the emails contained, who sent them, or what connection they might have to the yearlong investigation the FBI closed in July without recommending criminal charges."
What Comey did was make a dishonest press announce... (show quote)

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Apr 23, 2024 19:53:42   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
LindaK wrote:
Agree. Plus on Trumps tax cuts, I’d read many of the very wealthy had their taxes raised under Pres Trump.


Linda, if that is what you read, it is only the lies the orange mob sends out for people like you to soak up and echo..
It is nothing but lies.. Over a trillion $$$$ gifted to the very rich and trump himself by trump in 2017..

By the way... Obama does not have a warehouse for documents and he has none that in anyway are unlawful the great number are may well be in Chicago are for the library and under the watch and control of the agency involve. Not under control by Past President Obama..

trump not the only bad republican president... Only the worst one..
trump not the only bad republican president... Onl...

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Apr 23, 2024 19:55:33   #
LindaK
 
permafrost wrote:
WEB. I do not always disagree with you.. but the junk on this thread is far beyond the pale.. It is no way that anyone can honestly believe the crazy stuff posted on this thread.. only the very desperate would cling to this crap..

I have to ask, did any right winger of trump supporters watch any of the testimony from the mr. Pecker who edited the National Inquirer??? such a deal he made with trump and Cohan.. kill stories about trump and make up lies to target his detractors.. and none of you think that is at all wrong????
WEB. I do not always disagree with you.. but the j... (show quote)


President Trump wanted out of NATO??? He sure had a weird way of showing it then. The head of NATO (at that time) praised and thanked Pres Trump for bringing in more funding TO NATO during the time frame when Trump was asking all nations to pay at least 2% of their own nations GDP’s to pay their fair share of supporting that organization.

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Apr 23, 2024 19:57:18   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
EmilyD wrote:
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After they sent you these MEMEs did they ask for more contribution for donnie or had you already sent it?..

You must keep up your value to donnie all the time or he will throw you under a bus and be done with you...



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Apr 23, 2024 20:01:05   #
LindaK
 
permafrost wrote:
Linda, if that is what you read, it is only the lies the orange mob sends out for people like you to soak up and echo..
It is nothing but lies.. Over a trillion $$$$ gifted to the very rich and trump himself by trump in 2017..

By the way... Obama does not have a warehouse for documents and he has none that in anyway are unlawful the great number are may well be in Chicago are for the library and under the watch and control of the agency involve. Not under control by Past President Obama..
Linda, if that is what you read, it is only the li... (show quote)
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Lol. I didn’t use the word ‘warehouse’. Obama did intentionally make them unavailable to be reviewed by anyone for at least 5 years. Has his presidential library been built yet? Are people in power flocking in to review his papers/ documents, or is this another time when they take special privileges meant only for the dem presidents?

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Apr 23, 2024 20:04:40   #
LindaK
 
permafrost wrote:
Linda, if that is what you read, it is only the lies the orange mob sends out for people like you to soak up and echo..
It is nothing but lies.. Over a trillion $$$$ gifted to the very rich and trump himself by trump in 2017..

By the way... Obama does not have a warehouse for documents and he has none that in anyway are unlawful the great number are may well be in Chicago are for the library and under the watch and control of the agency involve. Not under control by Past President Obama..
Linda, if that is what you read, it is only the li... (show quote)


An image of another President who actually worked for our American citizens as Pres Trump had also done. If I remember correctly Pres Reagan won 49 out of 50 states. Very popular, pro-American president.

Edited to add: President Reagan made a full video on not supporting socialism. Biden’s doing just the opposite, so by breaking our laws, other times just ignoring USSC rulings.

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Apr 23, 2024 20:07:33   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
LindaK wrote:
President Trump wanted out of NATO??? He sure had a weird way of showing it then. The head of NATO (at that time) praised and thanked Pres Trump for bringing in more funding TO NATO during the time frame when Trump was asking all nations to pay at least 2% of their own nations GDP’s to pay their fair share of supporting that organization.


Obama had already gained the promise of all NATO nations to do the 2% and all trump did was repeat the facts and then hold a press conference to take credit for it..

Now... look at his real intentions as revealed by those who at one time were in his innermost circle..

You do not pay attention to anything at all that is not full support of the orange sprayed criminal who wants to destroy America if he can make money doing it..

Trump is a pox upon America and those that support his criminality should suffer the hanging alongside of him..

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2024/01/trump-2024-reelection-pull-out-of-nato-membership/676120/

NATO
If reelected, he would end our commitment to the European alliance, reshaping the international order and hobbling American influence in the world.

By Anne Applebaum

Editor’s Note: This article is part of “If Trump Wins,” a project considering what Donald Trump might do if reelected in 2024.


“I don’t give a shit about NATO.” Thus did former President Donald Trump once express his feelings about America’s oldest and strongest military alliance. Not that this statement, made in the presence of John Bolton, the national security adviser at the time, came as a surprise. Long before he was a political candidate, Trump questioned the value of American alliances. Of Europeans, he once wrote that “their conflicts are not worth American lives. Pulling back from Europe would save this country millions of dollars annually.” NATO, founded in 1949 and supported for three-quarters of a century by Democrats, Republicans, and independents alike, has long been a particular focus of Trump’s ire. As president, Trump threatened to withdraw from NATO many times—including, infamously, at the 2018 NATO summit.

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But during Trump’s time in office, the withdrawal never happened. That was because someone was always there to talk him out of it. Bolton says he did; Jim Mattis, John Kelly, Rex Tillerson, Mike Pompeo, and even Mike Pence are thought to have done so too.

But they didn’t change his mind. And if Trump is reelected in 2024, none of those people will be in the White House. All of them have broken with the former president, in some cases dramatically, and there isn’t another pool of Republican analysts who understand Russia and Europe, because most of them either signed statements opposing him in 2016 or criticized him after 2020. In a second term, Trump would be surrounded by people who either share his dislike of American security alliances or don’t know anything about them and don’t care. This time, the ill will that Trump has always felt toward American allies would likely manifest itself in a clear policy change. “The damage he did in his first term was reparable,” Bolton told me. “The damage in the second term would be irreparable.”

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Apr 23, 2024 20:07:39   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
LindaK wrote:
An image of another President who actually worked for our American citizens as Pres Trump had also done. If I remember correctly Pres Reagan won 49 out of 50 states. Very popular, pro-American president.


He’s too stupid to understand that Reagan’s tax reductions had no negative affect on Social Security.

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Apr 23, 2024 20:10:54   #
LindaK
 
permafrost wrote:
After they sent you these MEMEs did they ask for more contribution for donnie or had you already sent it?..

You must keep up your value to donnie all the time or he will throw you under a bus and be done with you...


More lies out of Pelosi’s mouth. She’s the dem responsible for withholding the name of her Capitol police officer who killed a veteran for entering our Capitol. Refused to give out his name, hid him from the news/public hearing why he murdered an American vet.

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Apr 23, 2024 20:11:22   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
LindaK wrote:
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Lol. I didn’t use the word ‘warehouse’. Obama did intentionally make them unavailable to be reviewed by anyone for at least 5 years. Has his presidential library been built yet? Are people in power flocking in to review his papers/ documents, or is this another time when they take special privileges meant only for the dem presidents?


How numb is your head.. I made it very clear that President Obama did not and has not custody of the documents..get it???? They are in process of selection for the presidential library to be constructed in Chicago and named for Obama.. not hard to know if you ever paid attention.. do so, rather than cling to the lies sent out every day just for the likes of you and others who may have a cab fare leftover to send Donnie to pay his lawyers..

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Apr 23, 2024 20:11:52   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
LindaK wrote:
More lies out of Pelosi’s mouth. She’s the dem responsible for withholding the name of her Capitol police officer who killed a veteran for entering our Capitol. Refused to give out his name, hid him from the news/public hearing why he murdered an American vet.


All perm does is lie and cherry pick opinion from far left sites.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-classified-docs-furniture-warehouse/


https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/09/white-house-classified-obama-documents-discovered-00077134

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Apr 23, 2024 20:14:39   #
EmilyD
 
permafrost wrote:
After they sent you these MEMEs did they ask for more contribution for donnie or had you already sent it?..

You must keep up your value to donnie all the time or he will throw you under a bus and be done with you...

No the opposite...he told me he is going to donate his next presidential salary to ME!!!!
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Apr 23, 2024 20:18:25   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
LindaK wrote:
An image of another President who actually worked for our American citizens as Pres Trump had also done. If I remember correctly Pres Reagan won 49 out of 50 states. Very popular, pro-American president.

Edited to add: President Reagan made a full video on not supporting socialism. Biden’s doing just the opposite, so by breaking our laws, other times just ignoring USSC rulings.


yes, ronnie was very popular.. I recall even some farmers at a diner were talking about how bad thing were and at least one was not sure he would make to the next harvest... yet, every darn one on them (4) clearly stated they would vote again for ronnie..

While we are still trying to recover from the sins of ronnie it will always amazes me how he pulled that off.. a great destruction came to the US from the changes ronnie made.. and now he could be wished for if compared with the orange nut case..

Oh also, yes he often spoke against socialism.. then he passed the SS rescue bill in 84, and got all that money into the general fund to save his economy and also to be used by nearly every administration from his time on.. think of the trillions that bilked the taxpayer of.. yet republicans still think he should have statues built for him..

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