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Apr 23, 2024 15:41:45   #
XXX Loc: Somewhere north of the Mason-Dixon
 
American Scene wrote:
Sure, when YOU ban all of the President Biden haters, the Obama haters and the Hillary haters, the liberal haters ect.


Well that's how stupid you sounded when you talked about hate speech.

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Apr 23, 2024 15:45:44   #
American Scene
 
XXX wrote:
Well that's how stupid you sounded when you talked about hate speech.




But not nearly as stupid as you, when you can't identify HATE speech, from trump, his supporters, and rightwing

media.

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Apr 23, 2024 16:16:51   #
XXX Loc: Somewhere north of the Mason-Dixon
 
American Scene wrote:
But not nearly as stupid as you, when you can't identify HATE speech, from trump, his supporters, and rightwing

media.


Is no more different than what you hear from left wing media. I have not heard anyone at RNC say Biden needs a bullet like they said about Trump at DNC.

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Apr 23, 2024 16:18:06   #
WEBCO
 
American Scene wrote:
Define free speech and hate speech


There is no such thing as hate speech. There is only freedom of speech.

Now it's your turn, define "hate speech"

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Apr 23, 2024 16:19:55   #
WEBCO
 
Kevyn wrote:
While hate speech is not illegal some of it is considered so egregious it is legally referred to as “fighting words” and can be used as legal defense for a violent response. A white man using the N word to insult a black man or a sexually vulgar insult of a man’s wife or daughter is considered offensive enough to be expected to trigger an assault.


It can be used as a defense, it will not hold up in a court of law.

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Apr 23, 2024 16:21:26   #
WEBCO
 
American Scene wrote:
And you must face the consequence of offensive (hate) speech.


That's what is finally being done to these idiots on campuses. Say stupid shit, get suspended.

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Apr 23, 2024 16:23:58   #
Kevyn
 
WEBCO wrote:
It can be used as a defense, it will not hold up in a court of law.


It has in numerous instances.

Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, 315 U.S. 568 (1942), was a landmark decision of the US Supreme Court in which the Court articulated the fighting words doctrine, a limitation of the First Amendment's guarantee of freedom of speech.

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Apr 23, 2024 16:56:11   #
Liberty Tree
 
Kevyn wrote:
It has in numerous instances.

Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, 315 U.S. 568 (1942), was a landmark decision of the US Supreme Court in which the Court articulated the fighting words doctrine, a limitation of the First Amendment's guarantee of freedom of speech.


That has nothing to do with Trump's gag order.

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Apr 23, 2024 17:01:00   #
American Scene
 
WEBCO wrote:
There is no such thing as hate speech. There is only freedom of speech.

Now it's your turn, define "hate speech"





Read this forum's rules.

They claim to know what it is, and remove the offending posts.

Very simple.

And freedom of speech means the Government can't suppress speech, but business, schools and public

forums can and do establish their own rules.

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Apr 23, 2024 17:02:42   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
American Scene wrote:
Read this forum's rules.

They claim to know what it is, and remove the offending posts.

Very simple.

And freedom of speech means the Government can't suppress speech, but business, schools and public

forums can and do establish their own rules.


If that's the case why don't they remove that disgusting post LH put up about the Carters?

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Apr 23, 2024 17:20:49   #
XXX Loc: Somewhere north of the Mason-Dixon
 
NotMAGA wrote:
If that's the case why don't they remove that disgusting post LH put up about the Carters?


For the simple reason admin got more lenient. What reason was there for ttaking it down?

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Apr 23, 2024 17:23:48   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
XXX wrote:
For the simple reason admin got more lenient. What reason was there for ttaking it down?


None - if no one who knows the Carters is here. Otherwise it's probably actionable as slander and if I were Jimmy I'd sue. It's the only way people are ever going to learn, it seems. If consequences are imposed.

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Apr 23, 2024 17:25:30   #
XXX Loc: Somewhere north of the Mason-Dixon
 
NotMAGA wrote:
None - if no one who knows the Carters is here. Otherwise it's probably actionable as slander and if I were Jimmy I'd sue. It's the only way people are ever going to learn, it seems. If consequences are imposed.


Well then there is no reason to take it down.

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Apr 23, 2024 17:30:19   #
Kevyn
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
That has nothing to do with Trump's gag order.


What it has to do with is idiots who believe freedom of speech is absolute and that trump can defy a legal order to not publish or speak publicly in a manner that would be put court, prosecutor, witness or jurors at risk or intimidated.

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Apr 23, 2024 17:54:25   #
American Scene
 
NotMAGA wrote:
If that's the case why don't they remove that disgusting post LH put up about the Carters?





Good question, since he's the most hatefilled, vile poster on this forum.

So the rules are posted, but not always enforced.

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