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Apr 23, 2024 15:00:56   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
Justice101 wrote:
The 51 officials were responsible for the censoring of the NY Post story regarding the Hunter Biden laptop before the November 2020 election. Their letter gave Joe some valuable talking points in the debate between Trump and Biden on national tv. The FBI already knew that the laptop was Hunter Biden's.

There's plenty of unconstitutional acts that Biden could be impeached for. The senate is controlled by the Democrats, so what good would it do to impeach Biden? Let the voters decide.


The Senate is controlled by Democrats so what good did it do to impeach Mayorkas?

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Apr 23, 2024 15:05:51   #
Justice101
 
NotMAGA wrote:
The Senate is controlled by Democrats so what good did it do to impeach Mayorkas?


To bring the actual truth to light regarding the open border crisis/invasion and who caused it to all Americans as the trial would have to be televised for the people to see.

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Apr 23, 2024 15:07:21   #
Lily
 
NotMAGA wrote:
It's a month before the election in 2016. We are just learning about the "Access Hollywood" 'pu$$y-grabber. DJ and his wife do an interview on TV, she says it's only "boy-talk" and no way would her husband REALLY do that. Besides, that video was years ago. This isn't what he's like now.
The drop in the polls slows - a little bit - but meanwhile there's another story out there waiting to break. One DJ knew could be the last nail on the coffin if it came out just NOW, so soon after Access Hollywood. This is a big one - about his brief out-of-town encounter with a porn star.
DJ is desperate to lock down the Stormy Daniels story and prevent more damage to his suddenly shaky campaign.
Enter "fixer," Michael Cohen, who, at Trump's behest, negotiates a secret $130,000 "hush money" payment to secure Daniels' silence days before the 2016 presidential election.
Instead of headlines blaring he had an affair with a porn star, he improbably wins election in a squeaker over Hillary Clinton, who won 3 million more popular votes but lost the.electoral count.

What IF the Stormy Daniels story HAD come out - on 60 Minutes, or 20/20 or even just the NYT or WaPo late that October? Would it have soured enough conservatives on the amoral adulterer that he would instead have lost the 2016 election?

Whild no one can positively know the answer, the probability is something most reasonable people would answer in the affirmative.

And THAT is why the trial going on now is about fraud and election interference.

DJ knowingly succeeded in influencing the outcome of that election with the hush money bribe made secretly and from which he attempted to distance himself.
It's a month before the election in 2016. We are j... (show quote)



Didn’t bother reading most of the untruths.
No. It was and is about policy.

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Apr 23, 2024 15:21:26   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
Justice101 wrote:
To bring the actual truth to light regarding the open border crisis/invasion and who caused it to all Americans as the trial would have to be televised for the people to see.


The majority don't care. This isn't Watergate.

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Apr 23, 2024 15:33:23   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
NotMAGA wrote:
The majority don't care. This isn't Watergate.


They might care more if they are exposed to the truth.
Apathy runs deep these days, that and blind ignorance, some of it willfull.

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Apr 23, 2024 15:37:32   #
MidnightRider
 
NotMAGA wrote:
It's a month before the election in 2016. We are just learning about the "Access Hollywood" 'pu$$y-grabber. DJ and his wife do an interview on TV, she says it's only "boy-talk" and no way would her husband REALLY do that. Besides, that video was years ago. This isn't what he's like now.
The drop in the polls slows - a little bit - but meanwhile there's another story out there waiting to break. One DJ knew could be the last nail on the coffin if it came out just NOW, so soon after Access Hollywood. This is a big one - about his brief out-of-town encounter with a porn star.
DJ is desperate to lock down the Stormy Daniels story and prevent more damage to his suddenly shaky campaign.
Enter "fixer," Michael Cohen, who, at Trump's behest, negotiates a secret $130,000 "hush money" payment to secure Daniels' silence days before the 2016 presidential election.
Instead of headlines blaring he had an affair with a porn star, he improbably wins election in a squeaker over Hillary Clinton, who won 3 million more popular votes but lost the.electoral count.

What IF the Stormy Daniels story HAD come out - on 60 Minutes, or 20/20 or even just the NYT or WaPo late that October? Would it have soured enough conservatives on the amoral adulterer that he would instead have lost the 2016 election?

Whild no one can positively know the answer, the probability is something most reasonable people would answer in the affirmative.

And THAT is why the trial going on now is about fraud and election interference.

DJ knowingly succeeded in influencing the outcome of that election with the hush money bribe made secretly and from which he attempted to distance himself.
It's a month before the election in 2016. We are j... (show quote)


Didn't you read Ms. Clifford (Stormy Daniels) dropped a note that there was NO AFFAIR. The case should have been closed then, who was the victim?

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Apr 23, 2024 15:38:14   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
youngwilliam wrote:
They might care more if they are exposed to the truth.
Apathy runs deep these days, that and blind ignorance, some of it willfull.


and not one sided

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Apr 23, 2024 15:46:42   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
NotMAGA wrote:
and not one sided


Why not, all your truths are one sided.

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Apr 23, 2024 15:49:02   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
youngwilliam wrote:
Why not, all your truths are one sided.


<SIGH>

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Apr 23, 2024 15:53:22   #
Justice101
 
NotMAGA wrote:
The majority don't care. This isn't Watergate.


The independent voters may care and they're in the majority.

About two-thirds of registered voters identify as a partisan, and they are roughly evenly split between those who say they are Republicans (32% of voters) and those who say they are Democrats (33%). Roughly a third instead say they are independents or something else (35%), with most of these voters leaning toward one of the parties. Partisan leaners often share the same political views and behaviors as those who directly identify with the party they favor.
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/04/09/the-partisanship-and-ideology-of-american-voters/

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Apr 23, 2024 16:05:20   #
Turtle keeper
 
MidnightRider wrote:
Didn't you read Ms. Clifford (Stormy Daniels) dropped a note that there was NO AFFAIR. The case should have been closed then, who was the victim?

I saw an opinion that it was cohen the lawyer that was bedding ol’Stormy and they were pulling Fraud on Trump. The actual payment was for just shy of $500,000

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Apr 23, 2024 16:17:09   #
Lily
 
Turtle keeper wrote:
I saw an opinion that it was cohen the lawyer that was bedding ol’Stormy and they were pulling Fraud on Trump. The actual payment was for just shy of $500,000


I heard that exact thing.

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Apr 23, 2024 17:32:38   #
pegw
 
I think it would have taken both Stormy Daniels and Karen McDoggale to sink Trump in 2016. However, I do believe that the sinking of Ms. Clinton was done by the FBI head Comey. He never should have been allowed to investigate her during the end of the election cycle.

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Apr 23, 2024 17:35:00   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
pegw wrote:
I think it would have taken both Stormy Daniels and Karen McDoggale to sink Trump in 2016. However, I do believe that the sinking of Ms. Clinton was done by the FBI head Comey. He never should have been allowed to investigate her during the end of the election cycle.


Or at least shouldn't have been allowed to SAY he was. Why her and not talk about their investigations into DJs team? Especially when they'd already been investigating her for years at that point, and had her in for extensive questioning in front of a Congressional committee..

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Apr 23, 2024 18:05:35   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Hunter and his laptop shouldn't have mattered a whit. HE wasn't the one running for office!

Affairs USED to be a HUGE deal. So did divorce.

The folks here who focus on two sins only apparently don't mind about adultery - unless it's a Democrat who is committing it.


I wonder how they feel about adulterous men impregnating their sidechicks. Trump paid for abortions, it's been said.

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