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Apr 23, 2024 11:27:32   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
fastforwardr1 wrote:
How in the world can you say it did not matter, Brandon held 60million dollars over Ukraines head and told them they would not get the money if they did not fire the attorney general who was looking into fraud and corruption within Burisma. Brandons alter boy son was being paid massive amounts of money even though he he had no education or experiance in the field. Influence Peddling at its finest!

Look a little deeper. The attorney general was the corrupt one, not Biden.
Again - IF there were any truly actionable evidence against Joe Biden in connection with Burusna, Ukraine, or anything else, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN IMPEACHED BY THE REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE BY NOW.
Sorry about the shouting but it sometimes seems the only way to get a logical thought across to some of you.

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Apr 23, 2024 13:05:48   #
Justice101
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Look a little deeper. The attorney general was the corrupt one, not Biden.
Again - IF there were any truly actionable evidence against Joe Biden in connection with Burusna, Ukraine, or anything else, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN IMPEACHED BY THE REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE BY NOW.
Sorry about the shouting but it sometimes seems the only way to get a logical thought across to some of you.


That's what the leftist sites want you to believe about Crooked Joes' quid pro quo bribery.
https://nypost.com/2023/08/04/viktor-shokin-was-threat-to-burisma-says-hunter-biden-partner-devon-archer/

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Apr 23, 2024 13:06:57   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
Justice101 wrote:
That's what the leftist sites want you to believe about Crooked Joes' quid pro quo bribery.
https://nypost.com/2023/08/04/viktor-shokin-was-threat-to-burisma-says-hunter-biden-partner-devon-archer/


This is not late breaking news. Biden never hid what he was doing (as DJ did with his hush money payments).

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Apr 23, 2024 13:10:58   #
Turtle keeper
 
NotMAGA wrote:
It's a month before the election in 2016. We are just learning about the "Access Hollywood" 'pu$$y-grabber. DJ and his wife do an interview on TV, she says it's only "boy-talk" and no way would her husband REALLY do that. Besides, that video was years ago. This isn't what he's like now.
The drop in the polls slows - a little bit - but meanwhile there's another story out there waiting to break. One DJ knew could be the last nail on the coffin if it came out just NOW, so soon after Access Hollywood. This is a big one - about his brief out-of-town encounter with a porn star.
DJ is desperate to lock down the Stormy Daniels story and prevent more damage to his suddenly shaky campaign.
Enter "fixer," Michael Cohen, who, at Trump's behest, negotiates a secret $130,000 "hush money" payment to secure Daniels' silence days before the 2016 presidential election.
Instead of headlines blaring he had an affair with a porn star, he improbably wins election in a squeaker over Hillary Clinton, who won 3 million more popular votes but lost the.electoral count.

What IF the Stormy Daniels story HAD come out - on 60 Minutes, or 20/20 or even just the NYT or WaPo late that October? Would it have soured enough conservatives on the amoral adulterer that he would instead have lost the 2016 election?

Whild no one can positively know the answer, the probability is something most reasonable people would answer in the affirmative.

And THAT is why the trial going on now is about fraud and election interference.

DJ knowingly succeeded in influencing the outcome of that election with the hush money bribe made secretly and from which he attempted to distance himself.
It's a month before the election in 2016. We are j... (show quote)


Election interference??? You need to remember when a Democrat or RINO says the Republicans are doing something like election interference or collusion with Russia Russia Russia it always comes out that it is the Democrats that are really committing said offense. Like Hillary claimed Trump was colluding with Russia when it was really her doing that and now the Democrats are doing the election interference. They have no proof the Trump knew what was happening and now it is being said that Cohen was bedding ol’ Stormy. That $130,000 was really a fraud against Trump. Trump signed no documents involved with this sham.

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Apr 23, 2024 13:12:13   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
Turtle keeper wrote:
Election interference??? You need to remember when a Democrat or RINO says the Republicans are doing something like election interference or collusion with Russia Russia Russia it always comes out that it is the Democrats that are really committing said offense. Like Hillary claimed Trump was colluding with Russia when it was really her doing that and now the Democrats are doing the election interference. They have no proof the Trump knew what was happening and now it is being said that Cohen was bedding ol’ Stormy. That $130,000 was really a fraud against Trump. Trump signed no documents involved with this sham.
Election interference??? You need to remember wh... (show quote)


Sure. 🙄

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Apr 23, 2024 13:37:06   #
Justice101
 
NotMAGA wrote:
This is not late breaking news. Biden never hid what he was doing (as DJ did with his hush money payments).


Hiding hush money payments isn't against the law, but the 51 US "security officials" signing a letter saying that the Hunter laptop was Russian disinformation right before the 2020 election and causing social media to ban the NY Post story is election interference and not one was held responsible.

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Apr 23, 2024 14:17:34   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
Justice101 wrote:
Hiding hush money payments isn't against the law, but the 51 US "security officials" signing a letter saying that the Hunter laptop was Russian disinformation right before the 2020 election and causing social media to ban the NY Post story is election interference and not one was held responsible.


Russian disinformation how? Because the Russians said there was something in it that could hurt Joe? Again.. if there had been, he'd have been impeached long ago. Wait - they DID finally find one didn't they? A laptop I mean.

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Apr 23, 2024 14:25:35   #
WEBCO
 
NotMAGA wrote:
It's a month before the election in 2016. We are just learning about the "Access Hollywood" 'pu$$y-grabber. DJ and his wife do an interview on TV, she says it's only "boy-talk" and no way would her husband REALLY do that. Besides, that video was years ago. This isn't what he's like now.
The drop in the polls slows - a little bit - but meanwhile there's another story out there waiting to break. One DJ knew could be the last nail on the coffin if it came out just NOW, so soon after Access Hollywood. This is a big one - about his brief out-of-town encounter with a porn star.
DJ is desperate to lock down the Stormy Daniels story and prevent more damage to his suddenly shaky campaign.
Enter "fixer," Michael Cohen, who, at Trump's behest, negotiates a secret $130,000 "hush money" payment to secure Daniels' silence days before the 2016 presidential election.
Instead of headlines blaring he had an affair with a porn star, he improbably wins election in a squeaker over Hillary Clinton, who won 3 million more popular votes but lost the.electoral count.

What IF the Stormy Daniels story HAD come out - on 60 Minutes, or 20/20 or even just the NYT or WaPo late that October? Would it have soured enough conservatives on the amoral adulterer that he would instead have lost the 2016 election?

Whild no one can positively know the answer, the probability is something most reasonable people would answer in the affirmative.

And THAT is why the trial going on now is about fraud and election interference.

DJ knowingly succeeded in influencing the outcome of that election with the hush money bribe made secretly and from which he attempted to distance himself.
It's a month before the election in 2016. We are j... (show quote)


As far as I know the Stormy Daniels affair never happened. She's sworn an affidavit stating this. So that story would have been election interference and false.

Hunters laptop story being suppressed, and factually true, was most definitely election interference by Blinken and the 50 lying stooges who signed the letter. Why haven't ANY of them been charged or lost their clearances at the very least?

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Apr 23, 2024 14:27:19   #
WEBCO
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Which part of his 2020 run? Hunter? They'd started talking about him before the election if I remember correctly.
I've never quite understood the focus on the son who wasn't part of Joe's administration, and so far after months and months of investigating there have been no charges recommended against Joe. Only Hunter.


Nobody can understand why no charges have been brought against Joe Biden. That's the problem

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Apr 23, 2024 14:29:39   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
WEBCO wrote:
Nobody can understand why no charges have been brought against Joe Biden. That's the problem


Again - if he had done anything actionable don't you think the Republicans in the House would have impeached him by now?

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Apr 23, 2024 14:30:01   #
WEBCO
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Hunter and his laptop shouldn't have mattered a whit. HE wasn't the one running for office!

Affairs USED to be a HUGE deal. So did divorce.

The folks here who focus on two sins only apparently don't mind about adultery - unless it's a Democrat who is committing it.


Emails incriminating Joe were on that laptop. Maybe you should've paid attention to it

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Apr 23, 2024 14:32:18   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
WEBCO wrote:
Emails incriminating Joe were on that laptop. Maybe you should've paid attention to it


There has been no impeachment. The House is in GOP control and they impeached Mayorkas, bit not Joe. If you have as much common sense as I believe you do that HAS to tell you something.

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Apr 23, 2024 14:56:54   #
Justice101
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Russian disinformation how? Because the Russians said there was something in it that could hurt Joe? Again.. if there had been, he'd have been impeached long ago. Wait - they DID finally find one didn't they? A laptop I mean.


The 51 officials were responsible for the censoring of the NY Post story regarding the Hunter Biden laptop before the November 2020 election. Their letter gave Joe some valuable talking points in the debate between Trump and Biden on national tv. The FBI already knew that the laptop was Hunter Biden's.

There's plenty of unconstitutional acts that Biden could be impeached for. The senate is controlled by the Democrats, so what good would it do to impeach Biden? Let the voters decide.

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Apr 23, 2024 14:56:54   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
NotMAGA wrote:
It's a month before the election in 2016. We are just learning about the "Access Hollywood" 'pu$$y-grabber. DJ and his wife do an interview on TV, she says it's only "boy-talk" and no way would her husband REALLY do that. Besides, that video was years ago. This isn't what he's like now.
The drop in the polls slows - a little bit - but meanwhile there's another story out there waiting to break. One DJ knew could be the last nail on the coffin if it came out just NOW, so soon after Access Hollywood. This is a big one - about his brief out-of-town encounter with a porn star.
DJ is desperate to lock down the Stormy Daniels story and prevent more damage to his suddenly shaky campaign.
Enter "fixer," Michael Cohen, who, at Trump's behest, negotiates a secret $130,000 "hush money" payment to secure Daniels' silence days before the 2016 presidential election.
Instead of headlines blaring he had an affair with a porn star, he improbably wins election in a squeaker over Hillary Clinton, who won 3 million more popular votes but lost the.electoral count.

What IF the Stormy Daniels story HAD come out - on 60 Minutes, or 20/20 or even just the NYT or WaPo late that October? Would it have soured enough conservatives on the amoral adulterer that he would instead have lost the 2016 election?

Whild no one can positively know the answer, the probability is something most reasonable people would answer in the affirmative.

And THAT is why the trial going on now is about fraud and election interference.

DJ knowingly succeeded in influencing the outcome of that election with the hush money bribe made secretly and from which he attempted to distance himself.
It's a month before the election in 2016. We are j... (show quote)


No it would not have! This lying protitute was not the prob it was people getting dicknof demonrat shit! Just like now!!

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Apr 23, 2024 14:58:02   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Which part of his 2020 run? Hunter? They'd started talking about him before the election if I remember correctly.
I've never quite understood the focus on the son who wasn't part of Joe's administration, and so far after months and months of investigating there have been no charges recommended against Joe. Only Hunter.

They covered it up and even brain dead zombies know this

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