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Apr 22, 2024 22:33:04   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
It's a month before the election in 2016. We are just learning about the "Access Hollywood" 'pu$$y-grabber. DJ and his wife do an interview on TV, she says it's only "boy-talk" and no way would her husband REALLY do that. Besides, that video was years ago. This isn't what he's like now.
The drop in the polls slows - a little bit - but meanwhile there's another story out there waiting to break. One DJ knew could be the last nail on the coffin if it came out just NOW, so soon after Access Hollywood. This is a big one - about his brief out-of-town encounter with a porn star.
DJ is desperate to lock down the Stormy Daniels story and prevent more damage to his suddenly shaky campaign.
Enter "fixer," Michael Cohen, who, at Trump's behest, negotiates a secret $130,000 "hush money" payment to secure Daniels' silence days before the 2016 presidential election.
Instead of headlines blaring he had an affair with a porn star, he improbably wins election in a squeaker over Hillary Clinton, who won 3 million more popular votes but lost the.electoral count.

What IF the Stormy Daniels story HAD come out - on 60 Minutes, or 20/20 or even just the NYT or WaPo late that October? Would it have soured enough conservatives on the amoral adulterer that he would instead have lost the 2016 election?

Whild no one can positively know the answer, the probability is something most reasonable people would answer in the affirmative.

And THAT is why the trial going on now is about fraud and election interference.

DJ knowingly succeeded in influencing the outcome of that election with the hush money bribe made secretly and from which he attempted to distance himself.

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Apr 22, 2024 22:44:06   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
NotMAGA wrote:
It's a month before the election in 2016. We are just learning about the "Access Hollywood" 'pu$$y-grabber. DJ and his wife do an interview on TV, she says it's only "boy-talk" and no way would her husband REALLY do that. Besides, that video was years ago. This isn't what he's like now.
The drop in the polls slows - a little bit - but meanwhile there's another story out there waiting to break. One DJ knew could be the last nail on the coffin if it came out just NOW, so soon after Access Hollywood. This is a big one - about his brief out-of-town encounter with a porn star.
DJ is desperate to lock down the Stormy Daniels story and prevent more damage to his suddenly shaky campaign.
Enter "fixer," Michael Cohen, who, at Trump's behest, negotiates a secret $130,000 "hush money" payment to secure Daniels' silence days before the 2016 presidential election.
Instead of headlines blaring he had an affair with a porn star, he I'm probably wins election in a squeaker over Hillary Clinton, who won 3 million more popular votes but lost the.electoral count.

What IF the Stormy Daniels story HAD come out - on 60 Minutes, or 20/20 or even just the NYT or WaPo late that October? Would it have soured enough conservatives on the amoral adulterer that he would instead have lost the 2016 election?

Whild no one can positively know the answer, the probability is something most reasonable people would answer in the affirmative.

And THAT is why the trial going on now is about fraud and election interference.

DJ knowingly succeeded in influencing the outcome of that election with the hush money bribe made secretly and from which he attempted to distance himself.
It's a month before the election in 2016. We are j... (show quote)


Election interference is what the corrupt leftest doj is doing now, and irreparable damage to our justice system.

You do know that this will be the "new norm", going after political opponents with lawfare.

New York will suffer greatly, no one will want to do business there for fear what they are doing to Trump can happen to them. T

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Apr 22, 2024 22:49:50   #
BIRDMAN
 
NotMAGA wrote:
It's a month before the election in 2016. We are just learning about the "Access Hollywood" 'pu$$y-grabber. DJ and his wife do an interview on TV, she says it's only "boy-talk" and no way would her husband REALLY do that. Besides, that video was years ago. This isn't what he's like now.
The drop in the polls slows - a little bit - but meanwhile there's another story out there waiting to break. One DJ knew could be the last nail on the coffin if it came out just NOW, so soon after Access Hollywood. This is a big one - about his brief out-of-town encounter with a porn star.
DJ is desperate to lock down the Stormy Daniels story and prevent more damage to his suddenly shaky campaign.
Enter "fixer," Michael Cohen, who, at Trump's behest, negotiates a secret $130,000 "hush money" payment to secure Daniels' silence days before the 2016 presidential election.
Instead of headlines blaring he had an affair with a porn star, he I'm probably wins election in a squeaker over Hillary Clinton, who won 3 million more popular votes but lost the.electoral count.

What IF the Stormy Daniels story HAD come out - on 60 Minutes, or 20/20 or even just the NYT or WaPo late that October? Would it have soured enough conservatives on the amoral adulterer that he would instead have lost the 2016 election?

Whild no one can positively know the answer, the probability is something most reasonable people would answer in the affirmative.

And THAT is why the trial going on now is about fraud and election interference.

DJ knowingly succeeded in influencing the outcome of that election with the hush money bribe made secretly and from which he attempted to distance himself.
It's a month before the election in 2016. We are j... (show quote)


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Apr 22, 2024 22:53:25   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
NotMAGA wrote:
It's a month before the election in 2016. We are just learning about the "Access Hollywood" 'pu$$y-grabber. DJ and his wife do an interview on TV, she says it's only "boy-talk" and no way would her husband REALLY do that. Besides, that video was years ago. This isn't what he's like now.
The drop in the polls slows - a little bit - but meanwhile there's another story out there waiting to break. One DJ knew could be the last nail on the coffin if it came out just NOW, so soon after Access Hollywood. This is a big one - about his brief out-of-town encounter with a porn star.
DJ is desperate to lock down the Stormy Daniels story and prevent more damage to his suddenly shaky campaign.
Enter "fixer," Michael Cohen, who, at Trump's behest, negotiates a secret $130,000 "hush money" payment to secure Daniels' silence days before the 2016 presidential election.
Instead of headlines blaring he had an affair with a porn star, he I'm probably wins election in a squeaker over Hillary Clinton, who won 3 million more popular votes but lost the.electoral count.

What IF the Stormy Daniels story HAD come out - on 60 Minutes, or 20/20 or even just the NYT or WaPo late that October? Would it have soured enough conservatives on the amoral adulterer that he would instead have lost the 2016 election?

Whild no one can positively know the answer, the probability is something most reasonable people would answer in the affirmative.

And THAT is why the trial going on now is about fraud and election interference.

DJ knowingly succeeded in influencing the outcome of that election with the hush money bribe made secretly and from which he attempted to distance himself.
It's a month before the election in 2016. We are j... (show quote)


Are you planning to run the same scenario for Biden’s 2020 run as a topic?

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Apr 22, 2024 23:01:10   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
AuntiE wrote:
Are you planning to run the same scenario for Biden’s 2020 run as a topic?


Which part of his 2020 run? Hunter? They'd started talking about him before the election if I remember correctly.
I've never quite understood the focus on the son who wasn't part of Joe's administration, and so far after months and months of investigating there have been no charges recommended against Joe. Only Hunter.

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Apr 22, 2024 23:40:49   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Which part of his 2020 run? Hunter? They'd started talking about him before the election if I remember correctly.
I've never quite understood the focus on the son who wasn't part of Joe's administration, and so far after months and months of investigating there have been no charges recommended against Joe. Only Hunter.


Because of the possibility of influence peddling. Frankly, I think every bloody one of our elected politicians have a family member selling influence!

If you or I had violated the two-three gun regulations he did, we would have already been in jail! Heck the ATF, years ago, was furious that UncleE could only tell them the month and year he sold a gun. Why can’t you tell us the exact date? Duh dweebs it was a decade ago.

You can talk about Trump, but Hunter Biden makes Trump look like a rookie. Drugs, more drugs, more drugs, hookers, more hookers, trying to deny his child, then trying to deny child support, taxes and the gun violations. Let us not leave out his affair with Beau’s widow. I am astonished another woman actually married him!

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Apr 23, 2024 00:05:42   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
AuntiE wrote:
Because of the possibility of influence peddling. Frankly, I think every bloody one of our elected politicians have a family member selling influence!

If you or I had violated the two-three gun regulations he did, we would have already been in jail! Heck the ATF, years ago, was furious that UncleE could only tell them the month and year he sold a gun. Why can’t you tell us the exact date? Duh dweebs it was a decade ago.

You can talk about Trump, but Hunter Biden makes Trump look like a rookie. Drugs, more drugs, more drugs, hookers, more hookers, trying to deny his child, then trying to deny child support, taxes and the gun violations. Let us not leave out his affair with Beau’s widow. I am astonished another woman actually married him!
Because of the possibility of influence peddling. ... (show quote)


For too long all the right talked about was Hunter Hunter Hunter... I never paid much attention to a story about him, didn't know he and Beau's widow had been together for awhile.
I suppose that, Biblically speaking, as Beau's brother Hunter would have been expected to take Hallie as his second wife after Beau died...
If they were Jewish and it was a couple thousand or so years ago, anyway. 😉

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Apr 23, 2024 01:23:42   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
NotMAGA wrote:
For too long all the right talked about was Hunter Hunter Hunter... I never paid much attention to a story about him, didn't know he and Beau's widow had been together for awhile.
I suppose that, Biblically speaking, as Beau's brother Hunter would have been expected to take Hallie as his second wife after Beau died...
If they were Jewish and it was a couple thousand or so years ago, anyway. 😉


Frankly, she was little better as it was while he was still married.

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Apr 23, 2024 02:55:16   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
NotMAGA wrote:
It's a month before the election in 2016. We are just learning about the "Access Hollywood" 'pu$$y-grabber. DJ and his wife do an interview on TV, she says it's only "boy-talk" and no way would her husband REALLY do that. Besides, that video was years ago. This isn't what he's like now.
The drop in the polls slows - a little bit - but meanwhile there's another story out there waiting to break. One DJ knew could be the last nail on the coffin if it came out just NOW, so soon after Access Hollywood. This is a big one - about his brief out-of-town encounter with a porn star.
DJ is desperate to lock down the Stormy Daniels story and prevent more damage to his suddenly shaky campaign.
Enter "fixer," Michael Cohen, who, at Trump's behest, negotiates a secret $130,000 "hush money" payment to secure Daniels' silence days before the 2016 presidential election.
Instead of headlines blaring he had an affair with a porn star, he improbably wins election in a squeaker over Hillary Clinton, who won 3 million more popular votes but lost the.electoral count.

What IF the Stormy Daniels story HAD come out - on 60 Minutes, or 20/20 or even just the NYT or WaPo late that October? Would it have soured enough conservatives on the amoral adulterer that he would instead have lost the 2016 election?

Whild no one can positively know the answer, the probability is something most reasonable people would answer in the affirmative.

And THAT is why the trial going on now is about fraud and election interference.

DJ knowingly succeeded in influencing the outcome of that election with the hush money bribe made secretly and from which he attempted to distance himself.
It's a month before the election in 2016. We are j... (show quote)


Wouldn't have changed anything...
Affairs aren't a big deal...
And no one who voted for Trump was unaware of his past...
Wonder how the 2020 election would have gone if the Hunter laptop story hadn't been suppresses???

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Apr 23, 2024 08:07:30   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Wouldn't have changed anything...
Affairs aren't a big deal...
And no one who voted for Trump was unaware of his past...
Wonder how the 2020 election would have gone if the Hunter laptop story hadn't been suppresses???


Hunter and his laptop shouldn't have mattered a whit. HE wasn't the one running for office!

Affairs USED to be a HUGE deal. So did divorce.

The folks here who focus on two sins only apparently don't mind about adultery - unless it's a Democrat who is committing it.

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Apr 23, 2024 08:24:14   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Hunter and his laptop shouldn't have mattered a whit. HE wasn't the one running for office!

Affairs USED to be a HUGE deal. So did divorce.

The folks here who focus on two sins only apparently don't mind about adultery - unless it's a Democrat who is committing it.


Why should hunters laptop not matter when it had evidence a sitting president had broken the law?

79% say ‘truthful’ coverage of Hunter Biden’s laptop would have changed 2020 election.

https://nypost.com/2022/08/26/2020-election-outcome-would-differ-with-hunter-biden-laptop-coverage-poll/

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Apr 23, 2024 09:00:19   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
youngwilliam wrote:
Why should hunters laptop not matter when it had evidence a sitting president had broken the law?

79% say ‘truthful’ coverage of Hunter Biden’s laptop would have changed 2020 election.

https://nypost.com/2022/08/26/2020-election-outcome-would-differ-with-hunter-biden-laptop-coverage-poll/


Going to say one more time - because I have to get to work...
If there had been indisputable evidence of criminal activity on Joe's part, the MAGA House would have impeached him by now. Why is that so difficult for you to understand?

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Apr 23, 2024 09:35:53   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Going to say one more time - because I have to get to work...
If there had been indisputable evidence of criminal activity on Joe's part, the MAGA House would have impeached him by now. Why is that so difficult for you to understand?


What is so hard for you to understand is the DOJ is corrupt, withholding evidence and obstructing investigations. In time the truth will come out. Corruption is rampant in both parties.

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Apr 23, 2024 09:56:46   #
fastforwardr1
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Hunter and his laptop shouldn't have mattered a whit. HE wasn't the one running for office!

Affairs USED to be a HUGE deal. So did divorce.

The folks here who focus on two sins only apparently don't mind about adultery - unless it's a Democrat who is committing it.


How in the world can you say it did not matter, Brandon held 60million dollars over Ukraines head and told them they would not get the money if they did not fire the attorney general who was looking into fraud and corruption within Burisma. Brandons alter boy son was being paid massive amounts of money even though he he had no education or experiance in the field. Influence Peddling at its finest!

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Apr 23, 2024 11:23:31   #
Justice101
 
NotMAGA wrote:
It's a month before the election in 2016. We are just learning about the "Access Hollywood" 'pu$$y-grabber. DJ and his wife do an interview on TV, she says it's only "boy-talk" and no way would her husband REALLY do that. Besides, that video was years ago. This isn't what he's like now.
The drop in the polls slows - a little bit - but meanwhile there's another story out there waiting to break. One DJ knew could be the last nail on the coffin if it came out just NOW, so soon after Access Hollywood. This is a big one - about his brief out-of-town encounter with a porn star.
DJ is desperate to lock down the Stormy Daniels story and prevent more damage to his suddenly shaky campaign.
Enter "fixer," Michael Cohen, who, at Trump's behest, negotiates a secret $130,000 "hush money" payment to secure Daniels' silence days before the 2016 presidential election.
Instead of headlines blaring he had an affair with a porn star, he improbably wins election in a squeaker over Hillary Clinton, who won 3 million more popular votes but lost the.electoral count.

What IF the Stormy Daniels story HAD come out - on 60 Minutes, or 20/20 or even just the NYT or WaPo late that October? Would it have soured enough conservatives on the amoral adulterer that he would instead have lost the 2016 election?

Whild no one can positively know the answer, the probability is something most reasonable people would answer in the affirmative.

And THAT is why the trial going on now is about fraud and election interference.

DJ knowingly succeeded in influencing the outcome of that election with the hush money bribe made secretly and from which he attempted to distance himself.
It's a month before the election in 2016. We are j... (show quote)


Nope. The pick of Trump over Hillary was the lesser of 2 evils in the eyes of many voters at that time.
Many former Presidents didn't have pristine morals, and the lawsuits against Bill Clinton regarding sexual harassment and rape claims didn't hurt HIS chances of getting elected obviously.

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