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Apr 21, 2024 14:47:32   #
Brewdog
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Your hate blinds you to truth. You want it to be true so you say it is true. Many legal experts say it is BS.

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Apr 21, 2024 14:52:29   #
Forkbassman Loc: Missouri
 
My question to all as an independent, where was all the outrage, slander, accusation, etc toward Trump, right or wrong, during all the years he lived, worked, hired thousands, built numerous things in NY? I never saw anything on media about him UNTIL he walked down the escalator as a REPUBLICAN. Now he’s the Antichrist, pure evil, demented, cruel………….. hmmm, interesting; why is that?

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Apr 21, 2024 15:07:50   #
Big Kahuna
 
Forkbassman wrote:
My question to all as an independent, where was all the outrage, slander, accusation, etc toward Trump, right or wrong, during all the years he lived, worked, hired thousands, built numerous things in NY? I never saw anything on media about him UNTIL he walked down the escalator as a REPUBLICAN. Now he’s the Antichrist, pure evil, demented, cruel………….. hmmm, interesting; why is that?


It's called Demorat TDS and it turns a demorats brain to mush.

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Apr 21, 2024 15:09:12   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
No, the Cubans did not put the gallows up, unless some of the Feds were of Cuban descent. I'm not a GOP 'er, but am an Independent. I think independently, you should try it sometime.


You are far from a Independent, you are a laughingstock for believing in Trump.
As the old saying goes fool me one same on you fool me twice shame on me. You fell for Trump Not Once, not Twice but Three times, which will make you and Trump a 3 times loser. Four if you count the 2022 midterm Election .

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Apr 21, 2024 15:50:38   #
Wickedestoldwolf
 
Kevyn wrote:
After you read the indictments charging trump and the text of the laws he is charged with breaking do you still think he did not commit the crimes for which he was charged? It seems damn cut and dry with loads of supporting evidence. Numerous others have been charged and convicted of the same crimes in this jurisdiction by the same DA, so no one can complain his right to equal protection has been violated. This leaves the only gripe is that he should be above the law because he was once president. Is this your belief?
After you read the indictments charging trump and ... (show quote)

Do you not know what is really happening here? The fraud bit is a misdemeanor that they are trying as a felony that does.not exist. So if you think this is right and just , for no other reason then your hatred of Trump, you need to understand it will set precedent that anyone can be tried for anything, even if not a crime. The courts can make shit up. And it will. But I suppose it doesn'tattet to a basement dwelling pink like you that never goes anywhere. Pray no one ever figures out your address though.

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Apr 21, 2024 15:53:35   #
Wickedestoldwolf
 
Wickedestoldwolf wrote:
Do you not know what is really happening here? The fraud bit is a misdemeanor that they are trying as a felony that does.not exist. So if you think this is right and just , for no other reason then your hatred of Trump, you need to understand it will set precedent that anyone can be tried for anything, even if not a crime. The courts can make shit up. And it will. But I suppose it doesn'tattet to a basement dwelling pink like you that never goes anywhere. Pray no one ever figures out your address though.
Do you not know what is really happening here? The... (show quote)

In fact all of these charges are 100% unjust and made up. All of them. If they were not, and so terrible why wait all these years to bring them up. You are the biggest pos I've came across in 63 years.

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Apr 21, 2024 15:55:31   #
Wickedestoldwolf
 
pegw wrote:
As an honest person, I believe Trump is a career criminal. He believes he is a victim, because he doesn't know right from wrong. There will be twelve people who will decide his fate, after both sides present their case. If Trump has no chance, its because the evidence is so strong against him.


If you're honest, id like to see dishonest.

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Apr 21, 2024 16:22:47   #
Wickedestoldwolf
 
F.D.R. wrote:
Trump will serve 4 years in the White House and it will be 4 years of endless persecution from the left.


You got that right.

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Apr 21, 2024 17:17:43   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Kevyn wrote:
After you read the indictments charging trump and the text of the laws he is charged with breaking do you still think he did not commit the crimes for which he was charged? It seems damn cut and dry with loads of supporting evidence. Numerous others have been charged and convicted of the same crimes in this jurisdiction by the same DA, so no one can complain his right to equal protection has been violated. This leaves the only gripe is that he should be above the law because he was once president. Is this your belief?
After you read the indictments charging trump and ... (show quote)

What evidence

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Apr 21, 2024 17:48:46   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
jimpack123 wrote:
If you believe that the Gallows were put up by the feds then U need help my little Cuban, as u are what's wrong with the GOP get a life and stop lying to yourself you are NWR!


Newly obtained video shows movement of group suspected of constructing Jan. 6 gallows hours before Capitol siege
The people who erected the infamous gallows and noose on the west front of the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, began their work in the predawn hours that day, according to newly released videos obtained by CBS News.
A report by a GOP-led U.S. House subcommittee said the perpetrators remain unaccounted for by prosecutors.

Surveillance footage shared with CBS News shows the brazenness of the work behind the gallows and noose, which have a history of racist and threatening overtones.
On Jan. 6, then-Vice President Mike Pence was presiding over the joint session of Congress to certify the Electoral College count and had been pressured by former President Donald Trump to unilaterally overturn the 2020 election.
He refused to do so, while outside the Capitol, protesters and rioters around the gallows and noose chanted, "Hang Mike Pence."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jan-6-gallows-construction-new-video/

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Apr 21, 2024 17:49:15   #
kemmer
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
Eyewitness accounts of a Truck pulling up to the Capitol area and 4 men getting out in the darkness and constructing the gallows on the Capitol grounds with FBI insignias on their black jackets.

Uh-huh. 😂😂

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Apr 21, 2024 18:46:51   #
TJKMO Loc: Bicycle Heaven
 
Forkbassman wrote:
My question to all as an independent, where was all the outrage, slander, accusation, etc toward Trump, right or wrong, during all the years he lived, worked, hired thousands, built numerous things in NY? I never saw anything on media about him UNTIL he walked down the escalator as a REPUBLICAN. Now he’s the Antichrist, pure evil, demented, cruel………….. hmmm, interesting; why is that?


Then you were not paying attention to NY NEWS.

Trump has had many books published about him in the 80 and 90s.
He had movie cameos.
He had a TV show.

He had many failed businesses and marriages.

As HE SAID, HE GRABBED MANY PUSSIES, CALLED HIS DAUGHTER IVANKA A PIECE OF ASS ON HOWARD STERN, CHEATED ON MELANIA MULTIPLE TIMES AND RAPED/ SEXUALLY ASSAULTED MANY WOMEN EVEN IF THEY WERE MARRIED.
Those are just the ones we know about or he confessed to.

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Apr 21, 2024 18:51:10   #
TJKMO Loc: Bicycle Heaven
 
kemmer wrote:
Uh-huh. 😂😂


Chairman Barry Loudermilk Releases New Information in the January 6, 2021 Gallows Investigation
February 23, 2024


WASHINGTON - Committee on House Administration's Subcommittee on Oversight Chairman Barry Loudermilk (GA-11) released the following information related to the construction of the infamous gallows of January 6, 2021.

One of the most well-known images from January 6, 2021, is the gallows erected on the grounds of the United States Capitol that morning, perfectly framing the Capitol dome. Photos of the gallows were featured prominently by the Select Committee to investigate January 6th, and have also become a symbol used by President Biden’s Administration when discussing the events of January 6 and included in his re-election campaign. Despite the infamy of this image, the individuals who constructed the gallows have never been identified.

Today, the Committee on House Administration Subcommittee on Oversight is releasing information and asking: who are these people and why did they build the gallows?

“It is inconceivable that a gallows could be constructed on U.S. Capitol property and left up all day,” said Chairman Loudermilk. “These men arrived early in the morning, several hours before the rally even started or anyone had gathered, to construct the gallows platform, yet this structure was allowed to stay intact for all to see. These actions raise more serious and troubling questions. Why didn’t the U.S. Capitol Police take down the gallows once it was seen on Capitol property, and why have the individuals never been identified? I plan to get to the bottom of this."

Summary of Investigative Findings:
At approximately 6:30 a.m. on January 6, 2021, a white full-size van parked north of Constitution Avenue, where three passengers unloaded a large bundle of lumber with wheels. After unloading, the group walked the bundle across Constitution Avenue and onto the grass at Union Square. They were then joined by two more people arriving by cab at the corner of 1st and C Streets NW.??

Between 6:30 a.m. and 7:15 a.m., the group constructed the platform and two main pillars of the gallows, only leaving off the crossbeam. During this time, the apparent group leader along with one other person, left the group and walked down 3rd Street, heading north. They returned a few minutes later with coffee, and the entire group left the scene. Despite the leader’s distinctive clothing—he was wearing a long trench coat, long white scarf, fedora-type hat, and walking with a cane—he has never been identified publicly.

At approximately 1:00 p.m., the was group of five returned to the scene and the presumed leader, now wearing a baseball cap, installed the final crossbeam and added the noose made of bright orange rope. Shortly after construction was complete, all five men left the grounds.

Background:
The Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol showed a video during its first hearing of protestors appearing to breach the Capitol chanting, “Hang Mike Pence,” followed by an image of the gallows, which had been erected hundreds of yards away. The Select Committee overlapped these chants with the image of the gallows, implying the crowd of Trump supporters built the gallows as a threat of violence against then-Vice President Pence. Later, witness Cassidy Hutchinson told the Select Committee she overheard a conversation where Chief of Staff Mark Meadows said President Trump agreed with the chants to hang the Vice President.

After January 6th, the noose from the gallows was recovered by an Australian journalist and turned over to the FBI. However, three years later, the FBI still has no suspects. Additionally, the Select Committee on January 6th seemingly did not review the USCP CCTV footage to identify the culprits behind the gallows, or if they did, they never released information about when the gallows were built and who built them—which can all be seen on CCTV footage from early in the morning on January 6.

The Capitol Police Guidelines for Conducting an event on United States Capitol Grounds explicitly state, “(t)emporary structures of any kind may not be erected on Capitol Grounds,” which would imply that a gallows—a temporary structure—may not be allowed on Capitol Grounds and would immediately be addressed and/or removed once discovered. However, these gallows were left untouched by USCP officers from 6:00 a.m. on January 6 until later that evening.

To date, the FBI has not named any suspects in this.

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Apr 21, 2024 18:54:21   #
Unintended Consequences
 
Kevyn wrote:
After you read the indictments charging trump and the text of the laws he is charged with breaking do you still think he did not commit the crimes for which he was charged? It seems damn cut and dry with loads of supporting evidence. Numerous others have been charged and convicted of the same crimes in this jurisdiction by the same DA, so no one can complain his right to equal protection has been violated. This leaves the only gripe is that he should be above the law because he was once president. Is this your belief?
After you read the indictments charging trump and ... (show quote)



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Apr 21, 2024 19:09:13   #
Justice101
 
TJKMO wrote:
Chairman Barry Loudermilk Releases New Information in the January 6, 2021 Gallows Investigation
February 23, 2024


WASHINGTON - Committee on House Administration's Subcommittee on Oversight Chairman Barry Loudermilk (GA-11) released the following information related to the construction of the infamous gallows of January 6, 2021.

One of the most well-known images from January 6, 2021, is the gallows erected on the grounds of the United States Capitol that morning, perfectly framing the Capitol dome. Photos of the gallows were featured prominently by the Select Committee to investigate January 6th, and have also become a symbol used by President Biden’s Administration when discussing the events of January 6 and included in his re-election campaign. Despite the infamy of this image, the individuals who constructed the gallows have never been identified.

Today, the Committee on House Administration Subcommittee on Oversight is releasing information and asking: who are these people and why did they build the gallows?

“It is inconceivable that a gallows could be constructed on U.S. Capitol property and left up all day,” said Chairman Loudermilk. “These men arrived early in the morning, several hours before the rally even started or anyone had gathered, to construct the gallows platform, yet this structure was allowed to stay intact for all to see. These actions raise more serious and troubling questions. Why didn’t the U.S. Capitol Police take down the gallows once it was seen on Capitol property, and why have the individuals never been identified? I plan to get to the bottom of this."

Summary of Investigative Findings:
At approximately 6:30 a.m. on January 6, 2021, a white full-size van parked north of Constitution Avenue, where three passengers unloaded a large bundle of lumber with wheels. After unloading, the group walked the bundle across Constitution Avenue and onto the grass at Union Square. They were then joined by two more people arriving by cab at the corner of 1st and C Streets NW.??

Between 6:30 a.m. and 7:15 a.m., the group constructed the platform and two main pillars of the gallows, only leaving off the crossbeam. During this time, the apparent group leader along with one other person, left the group and walked down 3rd Street, heading north. They returned a few minutes later with coffee, and the entire group left the scene. Despite the leader’s distinctive clothing—he was wearing a long trench coat, long white scarf, fedora-type hat, and walking with a cane—he has never been identified publicly.

At approximately 1:00 p.m., the was group of five returned to the scene and the presumed leader, now wearing a baseball cap, installed the final crossbeam and added the noose made of bright orange rope. Shortly after construction was complete, all five men left the grounds.

Background:
The Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol showed a video during its first hearing of protestors appearing to breach the Capitol chanting, “Hang Mike Pence,” followed by an image of the gallows, which had been erected hundreds of yards away. The Select Committee overlapped these chants with the image of the gallows, implying the crowd of Trump supporters built the gallows as a threat of violence against then-Vice President Pence. Later, witness Cassidy Hutchinson told the Select Committee she overheard a conversation where Chief of Staff Mark Meadows said President Trump agreed with the chants to hang the Vice President.

After January 6th, the noose from the gallows was recovered by an Australian journalist and turned over to the FBI. However, three years later, the FBI still has no suspects. Additionally, the Select Committee on January 6th seemingly did not review the USCP CCTV footage to identify the culprits behind the gallows, or if they did, they never released information about when the gallows were built and who built them—which can all be seen on CCTV footage from early in the morning on January 6.

The Capitol Police Guidelines for Conducting an event on United States Capitol Grounds explicitly state, “(t)emporary structures of any kind may not be erected on Capitol Grounds,” which would imply that a gallows—a temporary structure—may not be allowed on Capitol Grounds and would immediately be addressed and/or removed once discovered. However, these gallows were left untouched by USCP officers from 6:00 a.m. on January 6 until later that evening.

To date, the FBI has not named any suspects in this.
Chairman Barry Loudermilk Releases New Information... (show quote)



The FBI has not named any suspects who planted the pipe bombs either. How odd that bomb sniffing dogs would miss a pipe bomb left under a bench near DNC headquarters.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-panel-shows-video-of-sweeps-that-missed-jan-6-pipe-bomb/ar-BB1jMgEQ

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