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Apr 20, 2024 06:12:25   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
You say that's impossible. It's a contradiction of terms. And 'Yes', you are correct, and everyone realizes that.

So why is the American public, and a majority of it's elected officials pretending that the Fourth Amendment of the US Constitution is a square circle?

If you don't know what I am talking about, it is Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) that Congress is about to be reauthorized by Congress, but with an added new twist:

As Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) explains:

“If you have access to any communications, the government can force you to help it spy. That means anyone with access to a server, a wire, a cable box, a Wi-Fi router, a phone, or a computer. So think for a moment about the millions of Americans who work in buildings and offices in which communications are stored or pass through.

After all, every office building in America has data cables running through it. The people are not just the engineers who install, maintain, and repair our communications infrastructure; there are countless others who could be forced to help the government spy, including those who clean offices and guard buildings. If this provision is enacted, the government can deputize any of these people against their will, and force them in effect to become what amounts to an agent for Big Brother—for example, by forcing an employee to insert a USB thumb drive into a server at an office they clean or guard at night.

This could all happen without any oversight whatsoever: The FISA Court won't know about it, Congress won't know about it. Americans who are handed these directives will be forbidden from talking about it. Unless they can afford high-priced lawyers with security clearances who know their way around the FISA Court, they will have no recourse at all."

https://www.wyden.senate.gov/news/press-releases/wyden-urges-colleagues-to-reject-expanding-warrantless-fisa-702-surveillance

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/down-big-brother-warrantless-surveillance-makes-mockery-constitution



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Apr 20, 2024 08:55:10   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
ACP45 wrote:
You say that's impossible. It's a contradiction of terms. And 'Yes', you are correct, and everyone realizes that.

So why is the American public, and a majority of it's elected officials pretending that the Fourth Amendment of the US Constitution is a square circle?

If you don't know what I am talking about, it is Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) that Congress is about to be reauthorized by Congress, but with an added new twist:

As Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) explains:

“If you have access to any communications, the government can force you to help it spy. That means anyone with access to a server, a wire, a cable box, a Wi-Fi router, a phone, or a computer. So think for a moment about the millions of Americans who work in buildings and offices in which communications are stored or pass through.

After all, every office building in America has data cables running through it. The people are not just the engineers who install, maintain, and repair our communications infrastructure; there are countless others who could be forced to help the government spy, including those who clean offices and guard buildings. If this provision is enacted, the government can deputize any of these people against their will, and force them in effect to become what amounts to an agent for Big Brother—for example, by forcing an employee to insert a USB thumb drive into a server at an office they clean or guard at night.

This could all happen without any oversight whatsoever: The FISA Court won't know about it, Congress won't know about it. Americans who are handed these directives will be forbidden from talking about it. Unless they can afford high-priced lawyers with security clearances who know their way around the FISA Court, they will have no recourse at all."

https://www.wyden.senate.gov/news/press-releases/wyden-urges-colleagues-to-reject-expanding-warrantless-fisa-702-surveillance

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/down-big-brother-warrantless-surveillance-makes-mockery-constitution
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Warrantless the key word here.
The fat Cats at the top need to know what the mice are thinking.

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Apr 20, 2024 09:01:34   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Warrantless the key word here.
The fat Cats at the top need to know what the mice are thinking.


Exactly so on both counts.

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Apr 20, 2024 11:16:10   #
Ricktloml
 
ACP45 wrote:
You say that's impossible. It's a contradiction of terms. And 'Yes', you are correct, and everyone realizes that.

So why is the American public, and a majority of it's elected officials pretending that the Fourth Amendment of the US Constitution is a square circle?

If you don't know what I am talking about, it is Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) that Congress is about to be reauthorized by Congress, but with an added new twist:

As Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) explains:

“If you have access to any communications, the government can force you to help it spy. That means anyone with access to a server, a wire, a cable box, a Wi-Fi router, a phone, or a computer. So think for a moment about the millions of Americans who work in buildings and offices in which communications are stored or pass through.

After all, every office building in America has data cables running through it. The people are not just the engineers who install, maintain, and repair our communications infrastructure; there are countless others who could be forced to help the government spy, including those who clean offices and guard buildings. If this provision is enacted, the government can deputize any of these people against their will, and force them in effect to become what amounts to an agent for Big Brother—for example, by forcing an employee to insert a USB thumb drive into a server at an office they clean or guard at night.

This could all happen without any oversight whatsoever: The FISA Court won't know about it, Congress won't know about it. Americans who are handed these directives will be forbidden from talking about it. Unless they can afford high-priced lawyers with security clearances who know their way around the FISA Court, they will have no recourse at all."

https://www.wyden.senate.gov/news/press-releases/wyden-urges-colleagues-to-reject-expanding-warrantless-fisa-702-surveillance

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/down-big-brother-warrantless-surveillance-makes-mockery-constitution
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Appalling!

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