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Apr 13, 2024 13:22:42   #
DASHY
 
martsiva wrote:
Biden`s attacks on our fossil fuel industry is based on the lie of 'man made' climate change!! He restricted drilling on federal lands and he made it more expensive to even drill for oil with all of his regulations!!


Most non-MAGA Americans believe in the science of climate change and the need for lawmakers to address the consequences.

President Biden's Historic Climate Agenda:

“THIS IS A CASE WHERE CONSCIENCE AND CONVENIENCE CROSS PATHS, WHERE DEALING WITH THIS EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO THE PLANET AND INCREASING OUR ECONOMIC GROWTH AND PROSPERITY ARE ONE AND THE SAME. WHEN I THINK OF CLIMATE CHANGE … I THINK OF JOBS.”

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Apr 13, 2024 13:32:53   #
Knightlady
 
DASHY wrote:
Most non-MAGA Americans believe in the science of climate change and the need for lawmakers to address the consequences.

President Biden's Historic Climate Agenda:

“THIS IS A CASE WHERE CONSCIENCE AND CONVENIENCE CROSS PATHS, WHERE DEALING WITH THIS EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO THE PLANET AND INCREASING OUR ECONOMIC GROWTH AND PROSPERITY ARE ONE AND THE SAME. WHEN I THINK OF CLIMATE CHANGE … I THINK OF JOBS.”


And that's happening?

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Apr 13, 2024 15:54:50   #
WEBCO
 
DASHY wrote:
Your argument begins with your opinion:
"The Russo-Ukraine war is a major driver of worldwide food inflation."

How does this relate to President Biden policy?

"Biden pushed up the cost of fossil fuels" (what policy)
"Biden's war on natural gas pushed up the cost of fertilizer." (what policy)
"Actions taken by the EPA relating to how natural water sources are regulated." (what policy)

How are these opinions related to your first argument that the Russo-Ukraine war is a major driver of worldwide food inflation?
Your argument begins with your opinion: br "T... (show quote)


How about this policy



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Apr 13, 2024 15:56:29   #
WEBCO
 
DASHY wrote:
Most non-MAGA Americans believe in the science of climate change and the need for lawmakers to address the consequences.

President Biden's Historic Climate Agenda:

“THIS IS A CASE WHERE CONSCIENCE AND CONVENIENCE CROSS PATHS, WHERE DEALING WITH THIS EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO THE PLANET AND INCREASING OUR ECONOMIC GROWTH AND PROSPERITY ARE ONE AND THE SAME. WHEN I THINK OF CLIMATE CHANGE … I THINK OF JOBS.”


Why do you believe climate change "an existential threat?"

Where are those jobs?

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Apr 13, 2024 16:21:59   #
martsiva
 
DASHY wrote:
Most non-MAGA Americans believe in the science of climate change and the need for lawmakers to address the consequences.

President Biden's Historic Climate Agenda:

“THIS IS A CASE WHERE CONSCIENCE AND CONVENIENCE CROSS PATHS, WHERE DEALING WITH THIS EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO THE PLANET AND INCREASING OUR ECONOMIC GROWTH AND PROSPERITY ARE ONE AND THE SAME. WHEN I THINK OF CLIMATE CHANGE … I THINK OF JOBS.”


Really?? THEN explain how man influenced all the climate changes this earth as seen before there was any industry and a very sparce population!! Tell us why all these climate alarmists are yelling that we have had the hottest day in recent years when in reality the hottest day ever recorder was in 1922 in Death Valley at 134 degrees!! God controls the weather and all these climate changes - not man and that is obvious with all the climate changes this earth has seen since the earth was formed!!

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Apr 13, 2024 16:24:15   #
son of witless
 
DASHY wrote:
Your argument begins with your opinion:
"The Russo-Ukraine war is a major driver of worldwide food inflation."

How does this relate to President Biden policy?

"Biden pushed up the cost of fossil fuels" (what policy)
"Biden's war on natural gas pushed up the cost of fertilizer." (what policy)
"Actions taken by the EPA relating to how natural water sources are regulated." (what policy)

How are these opinions related to your first argument that the Russo-Ukraine war is a major driver of worldwide food inflation?
Your argument begins with your opinion: br "T... (show quote)


You said " You seldom present arguments. You continue to repeat old campaign talking points without pointing to a specific Biden Administration policy that, in your opinion, "caused food inflation". "

So I submitted 3 separate reasons for why President Joseph Biden is to blame for American food inflation. Each of those reasons stands on their own merits. The first reason was the Russo-Ukraine War. World wide food shortages resulting from that war did impact food prices in the US. I fail to see why you would question that fact.

The second reason I blame Joe Biden for American food inflation is his relentless war on American oil and gas production and distribution. I illustrated pretty clearly how that raised costs for farmers and everyone else in the food supply chain.

Finally the third reason was because the Biden EPA attacked the water rights of American farmers.

You seem only ready to address the first reason when you asked " How are these opinions related to your first argument that the Russo-Ukraine war is a major driver of worldwide food inflation? "

I totally fail to see your point ? I spelled out why I blame Biden for Putin attacking Ukraine. That curtailed grain shipments from the Ukraine. Ukraine being a major global grain exporter, logically this caused a world wide grain shortage, causing food inflation. Why is this even a question to you ?

I have rewritten my response numerous times in order to simplify and clarify it for you. I am at my wit's end, as to how I can make it more understandable to you.

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Apr 13, 2024 16:37:29   #
son of witless
 
DASHY wrote:
Most non-MAGA Americans believe in the science of climate change and the need for lawmakers to address the consequences.

President Biden's Historic Climate Agenda:

“THIS IS A CASE WHERE CONSCIENCE AND CONVENIENCE CROSS PATHS, WHERE DEALING WITH THIS EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO THE PLANET AND INCREASING OUR ECONOMIC GROWTH AND PROSPERITY ARE ONE AND THE SAME. WHEN I THINK OF CLIMATE CHANGE … I THINK OF JOBS.”


Most Non-MAGA Americans are wrong.

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Apr 13, 2024 16:45:54   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
Knightlady wrote:
And that's happening?



It's a pretty safe bet it would be if the side of the House that can't get their act together didn't quit sabotaging the man.

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Apr 13, 2024 16:50:19   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
martsiva wrote:
Really?? THEN explain how man influenced all the climate changes this earth as seen before there was any industry and a very sparce population!! Tell us why all these climate alarmists are yelling that we have had the hottest day in recent years when in reality the hottest day ever recorder was in 1922 in Death Valley at 134 degrees!! God controls the weather and all these climate changes - not man and that is obvious with all the climate changes this earth has seen since the earth was formed!!


Asteroid hits that were large enough to kill the dinosaurs certainly would have caused a global winter - whether it was the initial explosion or the drastic climate change that followed.

Supervolcanoes erupting - ditto.

You are speaking of a one day record. Climatologist are looking at the rise in average temperatures over time in various locations.

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Apr 13, 2024 17:54:27   #
Knightlady
 
NotMAGA wrote:
It's a pretty safe bet it would be if the side of the House that can't get their act together didn't quit sabotaging the man.


You are right about one thing. The House/Republicans need to get their act together and quickly.

I could get into the "quit sabotaging" argument but that's always being brought up and we know the talking points. So, I won't.

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Apr 13, 2024 17:55:23   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
Knightlady wrote:
You are right about one thing. The House/Republicans need to get their act together and quickly.

I could get into the "quit sabotaging" argument but that's always being brought up and we know the talking points. So, I won't.


👍

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Apr 13, 2024 21:00:51   #
DASHY
 
WEBCO wrote:
How about this policy


How did "an increase in government's take from oil and gas production" cause world wide food inflation?

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Apr 13, 2024 21:06:41   #
DASHY
 
martsiva wrote:
Really?? THEN explain how man influenced all the climate changes this earth as seen before there was any industry and a very sparce population!! Tell us why all these climate alarmists are yelling that we have had the hottest day in recent years when in reality the hottest day ever recorder was in 1922 in Death Valley at 134 degrees!! God controls the weather and all these climate changes - not man and that is obvious with all the climate changes this earth has seen since the earth was formed!!


I understand the MAGA position on the science of climate change. It is similar to the MAGA belief that the 2020 election was rigged.

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Apr 13, 2024 21:15:33   #
DASHY
 
son of witless wrote:
You said " You seldom present arguments. You continue to repeat old campaign talking points without pointing to a specific Biden Administration policy that, in your opinion, "caused food inflation". "

So I submitted 3 separate reasons for why President Joseph Biden is to blame for American food inflation. Each of those reasons stands on their own merits. The first reason was the Russo-Ukraine War. World wide food shortages resulting from that war did impact food prices in the US. I fail to see why you would question that fact.

The second reason I blame Joe Biden for American food inflation is his relentless war on American oil and gas production and distribution. I illustrated pretty clearly how that raised costs for farmers and everyone else in the food supply chain.

Finally the third reason was because the Biden EPA attacked the water rights of American farmers.

You seem only ready to address the first reason when you asked " How are these opinions related to your first argument that the Russo-Ukraine war is a major driver of worldwide food inflation? "

I totally fail to see your point ? I spelled out why I blame Biden for Putin attacking Ukraine. That curtailed grain shipments from the Ukraine. Ukraine being a major global grain exporter, logically this caused a world wide grain shortage, causing food inflation. Why is this even a question to you ?

I have rewritten my response numerous times in order to simplify and clarify it for you. I am at my wit's end, as to how I can make it more understandable to you.
You said " You seldom present arguments. Yo... (show quote)


How can anybody stretch their imagination to the point where they blame Joe Biden for Putin attacking Ukraine. That would be a stretch even for MAGA jerks.

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Apr 13, 2024 21:39:58   #
son of witless
 
DASHY wrote:
How can anybody stretch their imagination to the point where they blame Joe Biden for Putin attacking Ukraine. That would be a stretch even for MAGA jerks.


I am still waiting for you even one time to address my words. Like most of the Leftists on OPP you ignore, and divert my arguments. What you never do is try to refute them.

Oh, buy the way, since you refuse to engage with me on why President Biden is responsible for food inflation, it will not hurt if I bring up yet another failure of the man that you personally put into the Presidency. Right now US Armed Forces are engaged in intercepting drones that Iran is launching at Israel.

I find it ironic that this is the very same Iran that both President Biden and President Obama insisted in sending cash to. How freaking stupid do two Presidents have to be to give money to an enemy country and then have to endanger American lives fighting weapons bought with that money ?

And do not tell me that the money Biden and Obama ponied up to Iran was not used for weapons. Do not try making that argument. Well better yet go ahead. I can easily destroy that reasoning with out breaking a sweat.

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