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Apr 11, 2024 23:27:26   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
In 2021, 11 convicted felons were executed.
In 2022, 17 were executed.
In 2023, 19 were executed.

47 executions over three years is an average of 15 per year.
How would you compare that to an average of 1.3 million executions of unborn children every year?
TJKMO wrote:
Not the same thing.
Let's walk through this, shall we?

A felon on death row was convicted in a court of law, he was granted all his constitutional rights, the death penalty was on the table due to the brutality of the crime, the jury found him guilty and he was given the death sentence. The execution may have been delayed for years while the condemned appealed, but all options ran out and the state gave him the needle. The body is then turned over to the family.

A baby in the womb destined to die by its mother's hand has not been convicted of any crime, granted no constitutional rights, no appeals, no jury, and the child receives the death penalty.

A very small percentage of criminal convictions result in a death penalty,
100% of abortions result in death.

Now, Preacher, listen up:

“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.”
Jeremiah 1:5

For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother's womb. I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well. My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them. Psalm 139:13-16

And when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the baby leaped in her womb. And Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit, and she exclaimed with a loud cry, “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! And why is this granted to me that the mother of my Lord should come to me? For behold, when the sound of your greeting came to my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy.
Luke 1:41-44

Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward.
Psalm 127:3

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Apr 12, 2024 00:43:08   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
TJKMO wrote:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jzbiwdaQwaHlJuNVHNERYZpgmJJlV_s1CpJn9Gb086M/edit

This barbarity is uncharacteristic of the USA.

Please stop the Madness.


The Death Penalty should be for heinous crimes that are proven beyond any doubt. I also believe that people who commit these heinous crimes should die the same way as their victims. If a victim suffered greatly before dying, so should the murderer.

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Apr 12, 2024 07:30:51   #
Big dog
 
guzzimaestro wrote:
Looters should be shot on sight. You wouldn't believe how fast that problem would be fixed


👍👍

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Apr 12, 2024 07:55:24   #
LindaK
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Let's walk through this, shall we?

A felon on death row was convicted in a court of law, he was granted all his constitutional rights, the death penalty was on the table due to the brutality of the crime, the jury found him guilty and he was given the death sentence. The execution may have been delayed for years while the condemned appealed, but all options ran out and the state gave him the needle. The body is then turned over to the family.

A baby in the womb destined to die by its mother's hand has not been convicted of any crime, granted no constitutional rights, no appeals, no jury, and the child receives the death penalty.

A very small percentage of criminal convictions result in a death penalty,
100% of abortions result in death.

Now, Preacher, listen up:

“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.”
Jeremiah 1:5

For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother's womb. I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well. My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them. Psalm 139:13-16

And when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the baby leaped in her womb. And Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit, and she exclaimed with a loud cry, “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! And why is this granted to me that the mother of my Lord should come to me? For behold, when the sound of your greeting came to my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy.
Luke 1:41-44

Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward.
Psalm 127:3
Let's walk through this, shall we? br br A felon ... (show quote)
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Apr 12, 2024 08:36:13   #
TJKMO Loc: Bicycle Heaven
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Let's walk through this, shall we?

A felon on death row was convicted in a court of law, he was granted all his constitutional rights, the death penalty was on the table due to the brutality of the crime, the jury found him guilty and he was given the death sentence. The execution may have been delayed for years while the condemned appealed, but all options ran out and the state gave him the needle. The body is then turned over to the family.

A baby in the womb destined to die by its mother's hand has not been convicted of any crime, granted no constitutional rights, no appeals, no jury, and the child receives the death penalty.

A very small percentage of criminal convictions result in a death penalty,
100% of abortions result in death.

Now, Preacher, listen up:

“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.”
Jeremiah 1:5

For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother's womb. I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well. My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them. Psalm 139:13-16

And when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the baby leaped in her womb. And Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit, and she exclaimed with a loud cry, “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! And why is this granted to me that the mother of my Lord should come to me? For behold, when the sound of your greeting came to my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy.
Luke 1:41-44

Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward.
Psalm 127:3
Let's walk through this, shall we? br br A felon ... (show quote)


I am not pro abortion.

I believe it is a personal decision.
That is based on the experience of my niece and a baby she named and loved before its inevitable death within hours.

Rail on me all you want and aim all your hateful comments at me that you can.

I know what I believe and why.
It was a struggle for me to reach my position. All of your comments will not change that.

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Apr 12, 2024 08:38:36   #
TJKMO Loc: Bicycle Heaven
 
LindaK wrote:
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As a lifelong Catholic, I have read and heard those readings many many times.

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Apr 12, 2024 08:48:25   #
Jim0001 Loc: originally from Tennessee, now Virginia, USA
 
TJKMO wrote:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jzbiwdaQwaHlJuNVHNERYZpgmJJlV_s1CpJn9Gb086M/edit

This barbarity is uncharacteristic of the USA.

Please stop the Madness.


It has been said by you bleeding heart liberals that the death penalty is not a deterrent. Well, it certainly is for one. Brian Dorsey will not commit any more acts of violence!

I personally would rather see my taxpayer dollars go to programs that might keep someone off death row than to feed and nurture them for life when they have proven that they have no redeeming social value.

Yet you stinkin' democrats sanction the murder of babies. What a cornucopia of contradictions you are.

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Apr 12, 2024 08:54:21   #
Jim0001 Loc: originally from Tennessee, now Virginia, USA
 
TJKMO wrote:
I am not pro abortion.

I believe it is a personal decision.
That is based on the experience of my niece and a baby she named and loved before its inevitable death within hours.

Rail on me all you want and aim all your hateful comments at me that you can.

I know what I believe and why.
It was a struggle for me to reach my position. All of your comments will not change that.


Poor you!

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Apr 12, 2024 09:02:57   #
Jim0001 Loc: originally from Tennessee, now Virginia, USA
 
guzzimaestro wrote:
Looters should be shot on sight. You wouldn't believe how fast that problem would be fixed



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Apr 12, 2024 10:38:50   #
EmilyD
 
TJKMO wrote:
I am not pro abortion.

I believe it is a personal decision.
That is based on the experience of my niece and a baby she named and loved before its inevitable death within hours.

Rail on me all you want and aim all your hateful comments at me that you can.

I know what I believe and why.
It was a struggle for me to reach my position. All of your comments will not change that.


You are not pro abortion, but you believe in it???

The reason WHY you believe in it is irrelevant.... Your niece is living her life - not you. You have repeatedly used her experience to justify your falling away from God.

Does your niece know you are telling everyone on a public forum about her very personal experience and her own decisions?

Does she know you are GOSSIPING about her?

...

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Apr 12, 2024 10:46:47   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Actually we should use it more often and not wait so long to do it

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Apr 12, 2024 14:14:23   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
TJKMO wrote:
Turn the other cheek.
~ Jesus Christ.
The Good News.

So you are saying what God told Noah in Genesis isn't valid any more?

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Apr 12, 2024 16:28:06   #
TJKMO Loc: Bicycle Heaven
 
[quote. =liberalhunter]Nah...... you should try it once, it works.[/quote]

The Death and Incarceration Way is obviously failing.

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Apr 12, 2024 16:29:03   #
TJKMO Loc: Bicycle Heaven
 
Parky60 wrote:
So you are saying what God told Noah in Genesis isn't valid any more?

Jesus Christ fulfilled the old Law.
Read his words sometime.

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Apr 12, 2024 16:31:36   #
TJKMO Loc: Bicycle Heaven
 
EmilyD wrote:
You are not pro abortion, but you believe in it???

The reason WHY you believe in it is irrelevant.... Your niece is living her life - not you. You have repeatedly used her experience to justify your falling away from God.

Does your niece know you are telling everyone on a public forum about her very personal experience and her own decisions?

Does she know you are GOSSIPING about her?

...


She has asked others to share her story.

YES SHE KNOWS I AM REPEATING HER STORY.
She has posted it on FB.

You become sillier with your every word.

I have not Fallen away from God.
I believe it is a personal decision.
YOU LIE ABOUT ME CONSTANTLY.
I knew you would LIE about that post. I posted it anyway.
You have become very predictable.
Why don’t you like to talk about TOPICS?
Why are you so obsessed with me?

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