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Apr 7, 2024 15:42:56   #
Roamin' Catholic Loc: luxurious exile
 
martsiva wrote:
Tell us just HOW the West and Europe is trying to live in harmony with Russia with NATO expansion in Ukraine that they lied about not doing!! Tell us how they are trying to live in harmony with Russia!!


Europe and the west are not able to live in harmony with evil Putin. The expansion of NATO was wrong but those countries were not a threat to Russia. Putin has always been the threat to Russia.

Think back to the days of Mikhail Gorbachev. He was a man of peace and vision. Russia was an emerging republic. Socialist, but they had put the failure of communism behind them.

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Apr 7, 2024 18:05:43   #
Salvatore
 
Bruce 123,
He hasn't got the balls! He's a eunuch!

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Apr 8, 2024 16:01:21   #
martsiva
 
Roamin' Catholic wrote:
Europe and the west are not able to live in harmony with evil Putin. The expansion of NATO was wrong but those countries were not a threat to Russia. Putin has always been the threat to Russia.

Think back to the days of Mikhail Gorbachev. He was a man of peace and vision. Russia was an emerging republic. Socialist, but they had put the failure of communism behind them.


NATO is the threat to Russia and it was Gorbachev who was lied to about NATO not expanding east into Ukraine! Tell us how lying about this is peaceful gesture. Ukraine and Russia lived in peace for decades so tell us what started the end of that peace!

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Apr 8, 2024 16:52:33   #
BIRDMAN
 
martsiva wrote:
NATO is the threat to Russia and it was Gorbachev who was lied to about NATO not expanding east into Ukraine! Tell us how lying about this is peaceful gesture. Ukraine and Russia lived in peace for decades so tell us what started the end of that peace!


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Apr 8, 2024 17:35:07   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
martsiva wrote:
NATO is the threat to Russia and it was Gorbachev who was lied to about NATO not expanding east into Ukraine! Tell us how lying about this is peaceful gesture. Ukraine and Russia lived in peace for decades so tell us what started the end of that peace!




No, russia and Ukraine did not live in peace.. the two areas have a long history of war.. then the USSR enslaved the Ukraine for generations.. at least two time Russia signed treaties giving Ukraine the right and border which Putin violated..When the cold war supposedly ended, Russia again guaranteed the nationhood of Ukraine and the borders were outlined in exchange the atomic bombs were to be disposed of with the help of the united states... Putin first invaded parts of the Ukraine in 2014 after years of threats to do so.. he placed parts of the country under control of Russian puppets and held limited participation elections to claim the areas wanted to become parts of Russia.. when trump was in office he gave putin all he wanted and Putin did not have to fight a war any more, with Biden in office the appeasement ended and just like that the Puten war was back on the map..

Putin is the instigator and enemy of America and all of Europe.. he is perhaps one of the two most evil criminals in the western world.. if he is not contained the invasions will never end..

STOP PUTIN OR HE WILL IF GIVEN THE CHANCE DIRECTLY ATTACK THE USA!!!!!!

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Apr 8, 2024 21:08:04   #
BIRDMAN
 
permafrost wrote:
No, russia and Ukraine did not live in peace.. the two areas have a long history of war.. then the USSR enslaved the Ukraine for generations.. at least two time Russia signed treaties giving Ukraine the right and border which Putin violated..When the cold war supposedly ended, Russia again guaranteed the nationhood of Ukraine and the borders were outlined in exchange the atomic bombs were to be disposed of with the help of the united states... Putin first invaded parts of the Ukraine in 2014 after years of threats to do so.. he placed parts of the country under control of Russian puppets and held limited participation elections to claim the areas wanted to become parts of Russia.. when trump was in office he gave putin all he wanted and Putin did not have to fight a war any more, with Biden in office the appeasement ended and just like that the Puten war was back on the map..

Putin is the instigator and enemy of America and all of Europe.. he is perhaps one of the two most evil criminals in the western world.. if he is not contained the invasions will never end..

STOP PUTIN OR HE WILL IF GIVEN THE CHANCE DIRECTLY ATTACK THE USA!!!!!!
No, russia and Ukraine did not live in peace.. the... (show quote)


You have never been right about anything





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Apr 8, 2024 23:06:06   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
BIRDMAN wrote:
You have never been right about anything


I stand on the mountain of rightness.....

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Apr 9, 2024 11:50:41   #
martsiva
 
permafrost wrote:
No, russia and Ukraine did not live in peace.. the two areas have a long history of war.. then the USSR enslaved the Ukraine for generations.. at least two time Russia signed treaties giving Ukraine the right and border which Putin violated..When the cold war supposedly ended, Russia again guaranteed the nationhood of Ukraine and the borders were outlined in exchange the atomic bombs were to be disposed of with the help of the united states... Putin first invaded parts of the Ukraine in 2014 after years of threats to do so.. he placed parts of the country under control of Russian puppets and held limited participation elections to claim the areas wanted to become parts of Russia.. when trump was in office he gave putin all he wanted and Putin did not have to fight a war any more, with Biden in office the appeasement ended and just like that the Puten war was back on the map..

Putin is the instigator and enemy of America and all of Europe.. he is perhaps one of the two most evil criminals in the western world.. if he is not contained the invasions will never end..

STOP PUTIN OR HE WILL IF GIVEN THE CHANCE DIRECTLY ATTACK THE USA!!!!!!
No, russia and Ukraine did not live in peace.. the... (show quote)


According to the New York Times there was 30 years of peace between the two! Russia invaded parts of Ukraine - WHY?? Gee do you suppose to save the historical ports in Crimea that housed his black fleet?? Or maybe you are referring to the Donbass region filled with ethnic Russians that were being threatened with annihilation by Ukraine's neo- nazi government!! Forget about globalist Nuland and her propaganda that got the democratically elected Yanukovych outed from power and one of her globalist puppets put in and was the catalyst in starting this war. Tell us just WHAT 'the all' is that Trump gave Putin! You have made this statement many times concerning the ME and not once have you ever given a clear answer! So you think Putin is going to deliberately attack NATO countries that would bring on the destruction of his own country?? How ludicrous!! You think Putin would attack another nuclear super power that would also destroy his own country?? ANOTHER how ludicrous! You say these things bout Putin and totally ignore the very fact that Biden allowed a communist Chinese spy balloon fly over our nuclear sites!!

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Apr 9, 2024 11:54:12   #
martsiva
 
permafrost wrote:
I stand on the mountain of rightness.....


The only thing you`ve stood on is your anti-American BS with your support of Democrats who has done great damage to this nation!!

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Apr 9, 2024 16:34:10   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Roamin' Catholic wrote:
yep, don't trust. But above all don't try to fight us.

NATO countries were wrong to lie and accept expansion. And Putin was wrong to try a military solution. If that son of a bitch cared about Russia he would have chosen to live in harmony with Europe and the west. But it was NATO that started this shit show.


Russia tried in the early 90s. The west didn't want them in their party, and they needed an enemy to justify the military industrial complex. China wasn't anything back then. So, you can say we created the enemy out of a country that wanted peace.

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Apr 9, 2024 16:41:55   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Roamin' Catholic wrote:
Europe and the west are not able to live in harmony with evil Putin. The expansion of NATO was wrong but those countries were not a threat to Russia. Putin has always been the threat to Russia.

Think back to the days of Mikhail Gorbachev. He was a man of peace and vision. Russia was an emerging republic. Socialist, but they had put the failure of communism behind them.


Disagree again i part.
***Europe and the west are not able to live in harmony with evil Putin.
>>>The west already started the wrong expansion before Putin came along.

***The expansion of NATO was wrong but those countries were not a threat to Russia.
>>>And Russia was not a threat to them. So, why expand to protect themselves from a country that is no threat. It was the expansion of NATO that was the threat.

***Putin has always been the threat to Russia.
>>>Actually he was a stabilizing force for Russia after Yeltsin. He has actually done a pretty good job of keeping Russia together and progressing as a country.

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Apr 9, 2024 16:42:35   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
martsiva wrote:
NATO is the threat to Russia and it was Gorbachev who was lied to about NATO not expanding east into Ukraine! Tell us how lying about this is peaceful gesture. Ukraine and Russia lived in peace for decades so tell us what started the end of that peace!


2014

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Apr 9, 2024 16:44:06   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
permafrost wrote:
No, russia and Ukraine did not live in peace.. the two areas have a long history of war.. then the USSR enslaved the Ukraine for generations.. at least two time Russia signed treaties giving Ukraine the right and border which Putin violated..When the cold war supposedly ended, Russia again guaranteed the nationhood of Ukraine and the borders were outlined in exchange the atomic bombs were to be disposed of with the help of the united states... Putin first invaded parts of the Ukraine in 2014 after years of threats to do so.. he placed parts of the country under control of Russian puppets and held limited participation elections to claim the areas wanted to become parts of Russia.. when trump was in office he gave putin all he wanted and Putin did not have to fight a war any more, with Biden in office the appeasement ended and just like that the Puten war was back on the map..

Putin is the instigator and enemy of America and all of Europe.. he is perhaps one of the two most evil criminals in the western world.. if he is not contained the invasions will never end..

STOP PUTIN OR HE WILL IF GIVEN THE CHANCE DIRECTLY ATTACK THE USA!!!!!!
No, russia and Ukraine did not live in peace.. the... (show quote)


As usual you don't know what the hell is happening.

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Apr 9, 2024 17:59:59   #
BIRDMAN
 
permafrost wrote:
I stand on the mountain of rightness.....


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