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Apr 7, 2024 16:20:01   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
https://thehill.com/policy/international/4574642-nato-stoltenberg-ukraine-aid-europe-trump-us/


Ukraine needs to stand on their own!

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Apr 7, 2024 16:20:43   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
AuntiE wrote:
Obviously, Ukraine needs to receive more money. Now that Zelensky has purchased a £20 million mansion in London, he needs funds to furnish it.

Hopefully all of the dullards, who failed to understand the real reason for Ukraine support, will at some point will turn of the spigot to Ukraine.

How many does that make now

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Apr 7, 2024 16:21:27   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Kevyn wrote:
Zelensky Did not buy a 20million dollar house. This was Russian propaganda proven false but circulated like a case of the clap in a whorehouse by gullible morons on social media.


You mean like the other five, including the one in Florida dufus

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Apr 7, 2024 19:22:38   #
Salvatore
 
What a Stupid Head Line! Had to be a Leftist who thought that up!

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Apr 8, 2024 03:59:11   #
hbmac10
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Ahhh but it is quite alright for Putin to invade Ukraine and impose their will on them in a bid to revive the Soviet empire . Putin is KGB and a Communist dictator all the way despite all denyers saying otherwise



After the 2014 coop, orchestrated by the US and Nuland to overthrow the elected government of the Ukraine, the new puppet government started to shell the Dunbass area of Eastern Ukraine killing over 14000 Russian speaking people. This had lasted for over eight years. The new government even outlawed the Russian language.
As for Crimea it was never a province of Ukraine. In 1953 Soviet leader Kruschev gave control over Crimea to the communist government of the Ukraine, but no formal documents were signed ceding to Ukraine.
After many years of belligerence suffered by the people of Crimea and the two areas of the Donbas each aera held elections. Over eighty percent voted to join the Russian Federation, But Putin had already anixt Crimea in 2014.

Interesting parallel. In 2011 Susan Powell convinced Obama to bomb the crap out of Libay on the pretext of "Duty To Protect". Part of that was in all likelihood Gaddafi telling the US and International Bankers he would no longer accept Dollars for oil. He would only trade for gold.
Putin before he went into Ukraine filed with the UN under article 50 that he bound by international law to protect the people and areas of Ukraine that had by a valid election had voted to join Russia.
Do you know that Putin had asked Bill Clinton in a face to face meeting if it would be possible for Russia to become a member of NATO. Clinton said he would look in to it. But of course it was denied. Why? Putin realized that as a member of NATO, Russia would have no fear of Western aggression and hegemony and maintain its sovereignty as an equal on the world stage.
This is not what the US and NATO want. The US and the greedy international banking cartels and the WEF would like nothing more than break Russia in to smaller controllable mini states so they can come in and rape their vast resources for their own benefit.

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Apr 8, 2024 05:14:20   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
https://thehill.com/policy/international/4574642-nato-stoltenberg-ukraine-aid-europe-trump-us/


"NATO’s foreign policy is simple, “War first. Talk later. Facts on the ground don’t matter. Budget deficits don’t matter. Plunging public support for Ukraine doesn’t matter. All that matters is what these people want.” .....

"Make no mistake, folks. These people are the enemy of all that’s good and decent in the world. We have plenty of snakes here in the US doing their bidding, selling us the old lies repackaged as new ones, and acting outside the bounds of the law. There’s plenty of blame to spread around here."

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nato-its-time-cull-snake-americas-garden



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Apr 8, 2024 10:55:36   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
martsiva wrote:
There it is AGAIN - the old revive the Soviet empire BS!! So you think that Putin is going to deliberately attack NATO countries to 'revive the Soviet empire' and ensure total destruction of his own country?? You don`t even know WHY Putin invaded Ukraine and then you come up with this ignorant comment?? Tell us all in your vast knowledge what happened in Ukraine in 2014!! Who was behind what happened in Ukraine in 2014!!


It isn't B's you drank the koolaide

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Apr 8, 2024 15:34:39   #
martsiva
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
It isn't B's you drank the koolaide


No - it is you who drank the kool aid with your ludicrous comments!! You totally avoided what I stated proving you are totally ignorant of the history of what happened in Ukraine in 2014. And THEN you made a total fool of yourself stating Putin will attack NATO countries which will bring destruction down on his own!

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Apr 8, 2024 17:01:20   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
martsiva wrote:
No - it is you who drank the kool aid with your ludicrous comments!! You totally avoided what I stated proving you are totally ignorant of the history of what happened in Ukraine in 2014. And THEN you made a total fool of yourself stating Putin will attack NATO countries which will bring destruction down on his own!


Well I'll play nice because you are a lady---Putin is human garbage with no right to live .

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Apr 8, 2024 21:13:03   #
BIRDMAN
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Well I'll play nice because you are a lady---Putin is human garbage with no right to live .


Seig heil



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Apr 9, 2024 10:21:49   #
martsiva
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Well I'll play nice because you are a lady---Putin is human garbage with no right to live .


I see you`re still advertising your ignorance of history so you come back with a reply that totally evades what I stated. Tell us what broke the peace that Russia and Ukraine had for decades!!

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Apr 9, 2024 17:13:58   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Ahhh but it is quite alright for Putin to invade Ukraine and impose their will on them in a bid to revive the Soviet empire . Putin is KGB and a Communist dictator all the way despite all denyers saying otherwise



When Putin finally invaded Ukraine, it was when Ukrainian militias were getting ready for a massive push to subjugate the Donbas and crush their own citizens who happened to be of Russian descent. All of that is the result of the west sponsored illegal coup in 2014. Somehow I get the idea of a illegal coup as being worse then any so called Russian interference in our elections.

And the people of the donbas were revolting against the Ukrainians who were trying to force them to get rid of their culture. Although Ukrainians they spoke mostly Russian and their culture was more Russian. So it was fellow Ukrainians who were trying to forcefully "impose their will on them" in the donbass without any need for this.

***revive the Soviet empire. Putin is KGB and a Communist dictator all the way despite all denyers saying otherwise.
>>>Just more of your lying rhetoric. There is no indication that Putin is trying to revive the Soviet Empire. It was a communist dictatorship set up by an evil Communist dictator. Putin is more interested in making Russia great again, by economic means and world leadership. Something we are falling behind on. Putin might be more of a Russian autocrat but not a dictator. And we are moving towards Communism while they rejected it as a bad system and moved on. So us deniers are right after all and you are misguided and believing in the democrat leftist kool ade.

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Apr 9, 2024 17:19:42   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Like Cuba ---


Keep in mind that Khrushchev wanted those missiles in Cuba to counteract the NATO missiles in Turkey aimed at Moscow. And Khrushchev backed down only when Kennedy was forced to remove his missiles.

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Apr 9, 2024 17:28:31   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
When Putin finally invaded Ukraine, it was when Ukrainian militias were getting ready for a massive push to subjugate the Donbas and crush their own citizens who happened to be of Russian descent. All of that is the result of the west sponsored illegal coup in 2014. Somehow I get the idea of a illegal coup as being worse then any so called Russian interference in our elections.

And the people of the donbas were revolting against the Ukrainians who were trying to force them to get rid of their culture. Although Ukrainians they spoke mostly Russian and their culture was more Russian. So it was fellow Ukrainians who were trying to forcefully "impose their will on them" in the donbass without any need for this.

***revive the Soviet empire. Putin is KGB and a Communist dictator all the way despite all denyers saying otherwise.
>>>Just more of your lying rhetoric. There is no indication that Putin is trying to revive the Soviet Empire. It was a communist dictatorship set up by an evil Communist dictator. Putin is more interested in making Russia great again, by economic means and world leadership. Something we are falling behind on. Putin might be more of a Russian autocrat but not a dictator. And we are moving towards Communism while they rejected it as a bad system and moved on. So us deniers are right after all and you are misguided and believing in the democrat leftist kool ade.
When Putin finally invaded Ukraine, it was when Uk... (show quote)


so we get it.... you hate the USA... so why not get the hell out , live in Moscow and be happy.. we do not want your kind anyway.. be gone, get lost.. go to Hell or Russia, which ever is most like yourself.



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Apr 9, 2024 17:57:41   #
BIRDMAN
 
permafrost wrote:
so we get it.... you hate the USA... so why not get the hell out , live in Moscow and be happy.. we do not want your kind anyway.. be gone, get lost.. go to Hell or Russia, which ever is most like yourself.


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