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You must understand that our main focus of worship of Jesus Christ. First, when the Mass begins, we pray the Nicene Creed. All songs and praises for Christ.

I believe in one God,
the Father almighty,
maker of heaven and earth, of all things visible and invisible.

I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Only Begotten Son of God, born of the Father before all ages. God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father; through him all things were made. For us men and for our salvation he came down from heaven, and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary, and became man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate, he suffered death and was buried, and rose again on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead and his kingdom will have no end.

I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son, who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified, who has spoken through the prophets.

We have no other God, there is only 1 God, Jesus Christ.
Read John 1.
Read also John 14.

Jesus is the only God in the Catholic Church. As stated in the Nicene Creed, we believe in the Holy Trinity. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, one God forever and ever, Amen!

We honor the Virgin Mother of God. The annunciation. When Jesus was conceived thru her by Holy Spirit.

Luke 1:26-38.
And when Jesus was dying on the Cross. One of the last words of Jesus." Woman, behold your son." Then he said to his Disciples," behold your mother. "

Wehn Jesus was carrying the cross, Mother Mary met Jesus, with her painful and bleeding heart. John 19_17-41.

When Jesus was brought down from the cross, Jesus was laid on Mary's arms. Do you know how painful that is for a mother to see her son suffer like that? That is why we honor and love our mother.
Mary is the greatest advocate for us to Christ.

Mother Mary is the 2nd most important to Jesus.

There is one most important Scriptures of the Catholic faith. The Last Supper.

The Covenant with Christ. This is the summit of the Catholic faith.

Corinthians 11:23-26 ESV
For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night when he was betrayed took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, “This is my body, which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me.”

In the same way also he took the cup, after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.” For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes.

God loves both of you Emily and blade runner. He is more read than I am, and know more than I about the Scriptures. You are both great in the eyes of God. Prayers for abundant blessings.

I don't find any wrongs, just differences of how we pray. Let us trust God to judge us.

I follow my faith as what God wants me to be since I was 3 years old.

I think God loves also those poor ones who don't even know how to read and write, that do-good works.

Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich

"lost aggie"...iF YOU PROFESS TO BE SUCH AN* AVID CHRISTIAN, & *BIBLE READER....How do you explain

Abortion, as a daily, & "fun" thing by demo'rats? [ The main party platform Murderous abortion issue]

Just "reading", the Bible, does not make you a "good Christian"! You must "walk the walk"...You cannot pick &

choose the parts, of the demo'rat platform that "suits you"....if you are a Demo'rat, you are "NOT", a Christian!

Worrrk that solid truism, out, & talk it over with your "religious leader"! Then get back TO ME, WITH YOUR

SACRELIGIOUS BALONEY!

Radiance3

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[I] Continuation and correction to Matthew 16:16-19 That was a mistake. Not what I wanted to present.
Here is what I wanted to present.

John 21:15-17
Jesus Reinstates Peter

15 When they had finished eating, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon son of John, do you love me more than these?”

“Yes, Lord,” he said, “you know that I love you.”

Jesus said, “Feed my lambs.”

16 Again Jesus said, “Simon son of John, do you love me?”

He answered, “Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.”

Jesus said, “Take care of my sheep.”

17 The third time he said to him, “Simon son of John, do you love me?”

Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the third time, “Do you love me?” He said, “Lord, you know all things; you know that I love you.”
Jesus said, "feed my sheep."

Peter was the Apostle to lead assigned by Jesus.
Matthew 16:18Now I say to you that you are Peter (which means ‘rock’), and upon this rock I will build my church, and all the powers of hell will not conquer it.

Matthew 16:19
I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”

Matthew 16:17-19
17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. 18 And I tell you that you are Peter,[a] and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades[b] will not overcome it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be[c] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[d] loosed in heaven. [/i]

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

In John 16, Jesus is not forgiving anyone, He is telling His disciples He must go to His Father:
16 A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.

17 Then said some of his disciples among themselves, What is this that he saith unto us, A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me: and, Because I go to the Father?

18 They said therefore, What is this that he saith, A little while? we cannot tell what he saith.

Jesus died on the cross to forgive everyone who repents.
All of His disciples and followers except Judas Iscariot were forgiven.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

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I am not defending TJ.

blade, I respect all your Biblical assertions, but this is the one I want to believe for Peter, and how the Catholic Church had portrayed on it. Perhaps we have 98% agreement on most of the issues.

But here is my answer about Peter.

John 21:15-17
Jesus Reinstates Peter

15 When they had finished eating, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon son of John, do you love me more than these?”

“Yes, Lord,” he said, “you know that I love you.”

Jesus said, “Feed my lambs.”

16 Again Jesus said, “Simon son of John, do you love me?”

He answered, “Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.”

Jesus said, “Take care of my sheep.”

17 The third time he said to him, “Simon son of John, do you love me?”

Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the third time, “Do you love me?” He said, “Lord, you know all things; you know that I love you.”
Jesus said, "feed my sheep."

Peter was the Apostle to lead assigned by Jesus.
Matthew 16:18
Now I say to you that you are Peter (which means ‘rock’), and upon this rock I will build my church, and all the powers of hell will not conquer it.

Matthew 16:19
I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”

Radiance3

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Jesus started the Catholic Church. Catholic means universal!

Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich

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[I] Continuation and correction to Matthew 16:16-19 That was a mistake. Not what I wanted to present.
Here is what I wanted to present.

John 21:15-17
Jesus Reinstates Peter

15 When they had finished eating, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon son of John, do you love me more than these?”

“Yes, Lord,” he said, “you know that I love you.”

Jesus said, “Feed my lambs.”

16 Again Jesus said, “Simon son of John, do you love me?”

He answered, “Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.”

Jesus said, “Take care of my sheep.”

17 The third time he said to him, “Simon son of John, do you love me?”

Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the third time, “Do you love me?” He said, “Lord, you know all things; you know that I love you.”
Jesus said, "feed my sheep."

Peter was the Apostle to lead assigned by Jesus.
Matthew 16:18Now I say to you that you are Peter (which means ‘rock’), and upon this rock I will build my church, and all the powers of hell will not conquer it.

Matthew 16:19
I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”

Matthew 16:17-19
17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. 18 And I tell you that you are Peter,[a] and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades[b] will not overcome it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be[c] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[d] loosed in heaven. [/i][/quote]

Do not "doubt", rethink your postings....many of us here, "Know", what you are saying....only the nay-sayers, are lost at sea!

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Sorry, but Jesus did not establish His church on earth, His kingdom "is not of this world."

Which church—that is, which denomination of Christianity—is the “true church”? Which church is the one that God loves and cherishes and died for? Which church is His bride? The answer is that no visible church or denomination is the true church, because the bride of Christ is not an institution, but is instead a spiritual entity made up of those who have by grace through faith been brought into a close, intimate relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ (Ephesians 2:8–9). Those people, no matter which building, denomination, or country they happen to be in, constitute the true church.

In the Bible, we see that the local (or visible) church is nothing more than a gathering of professing believers. In Paul’s letters, the word church is used in two different ways. There are many examples of the word church being used to simply refer to a group of professing believers who meet together on a regular basis (1 Corinthians 16:9; 2 Corinthians 8:1; 11:28). We see Paul’s concern, in his letters, for the individual churches in various cities along his missionary journey. But he also refers to a church that is invisible—a spiritual entity that has close fellowship with Christ, as close as a bride to her husband (Ephesians 5:25, 32), and of which He is the spiritual head (Colossians 1:18; Ephesians 3:21). This church is made up of an unnamed, unspecified group of individuals (Philippians 3:6; 1 Timothy 3:5) that have Christ in common.

The word church is a translation of the Greek word ekklesia, meaning “a called–out assembly.” The word describes a group of people who have been called out of the world and set apart for the Lord, and it is always used, in its singular form, to describe a universal group of people who know Christ. The word ekklesia, when pluralized, is used to describe groups of believers who meet together. Interestingly enough, the word church is never used in the Bible to describe a building or organization.

It is easy to get ensnared by the idea that a particular denomination within Christianity is “the true church,” but this view is a misunderstanding of Scripture. When choosing a church to attend, it is important to remember that a gathering of believers should be a place where those who belong to the true church (the spiritual entity) feel at home. That is to say, a good local church will uphold the Word of God, honoring it and preaching faithfully, proclaim the gospel steadfastly, and feed and tend the sheep. A church that teaches heresy or engages in sin will eventually be very low on (or entirely bereft of) those people that belong to the true church—the sheep who hear the voice of the Shepherd and follow Him (John 10:27).

Members of the true church always enjoy agreement in and fellowship around Jesus Christ, as He is plainly revealed in His Word. This is what is referred to as Christian unity. Another common mistake is to believe that Christian unity is just a matter of agreeing with one another. Simple agreement for the sake of agreement does not speak the truth in love or spur one another on to unity in Christ; rather, it encourages believers to refrain from speaking difficult truths. It sacrifices true understanding of God in favor of a false unity based on disingenuous love that is nothing more than selfish tolerance of sin in oneself and others.

The true church is the bride of Christ (Revelation 21:2, 9; 22:17) and the body of Christ (Ephesians 4:12; 1 Corinthians 12:27). It cannot be contained, walled in, or defined by anything other than its love for Christ and its dedication to Him. The true church is, as C. S. Lewis put it, “spread out through all time and space and rooted in eternity, terrible as an army with banners.”

Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich

In God's house, & In My life....God has led me to many church's....In France, Italy, Monico, Belgium, Mexico, Canada, Spain, et al....[ *Spain, the catholic church designed by "Gaudi", an unbelievable art design, from Renaissance, to ultra Modern! Gaudi had amazing insight, & projected his vision world wide! This church, in Barcelona: Is truly a work of man, inspired of God!

Do your self a favor, check out this Church!

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This bothers me. I need to come back to further the facts on what I believe.

I am not claiming that Peter started the Catholic Church. It was Jesus who started when he said, "on this rock I will build my church. " The Catholic Church was founded in the year A.D. 33 by Jesus Christ. In Matthew 16:18, Jesus says to Saint Peter in front.
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The First Catholic Church was then built in Rome.

Matthew 16:19
About Peter, Jesus said.
I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.

On Mark 16:15 Jesus said this.
15 He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation."

Peter was crucified in Rome under Emperor Nero. The ancient Christian churches all venerate Peter as a major saint and as the founder of the Church of Antioch and the Church of Rome,

And that was what the Apostles did. They went all over the world to preach the Gospel. Many of them died on those places where they went into.

Mark and Matthew said, after the Ascension of Christ, His Apostles went out and preached the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Re: This is described in Mark 16 verses 19 and 20, and Matthew 28 verses 19 and 20. According to a tradition mentioned by Eusebius, they dispersed to distinct parts of the world. Many of them died to the places where they preached.

After Jesus crucifixion and death, Peter travelled to Rome between 42 and 54 AD, during Claudius and Nero Emperor's reign. In the Eternal City, he managed to spread the faith more and more but this brought him enemies belonging to wealthy social classes

Peter was crucified in Rome under Emperor Nero. The ancient Christian churches all venerate Peter as a major saint and as the founder of the Church of Antioch and the Church of Rome,

And that was what the Apostles did. They went all over the world to preach the Gospel. Many of them died on those places where they went into.

Mark and Matthew said, after the Ascension of Christ, His Apostles went out and preached the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Re: This is described in Mark 16 verses 19 and 20, and Matthew 28 verses 19 and 20. According to a tradition mentioned by Eusebius, they dispersed to distinct parts of the world. Many of them died to the places where they preached.

When and how the Catholic Church was built. About 313 AD.
Quote) During the reign of the Roman Emperor Constantine the Great (306–337 AD), Christianity began to transition to the dominant religion of the Roman Empire. Historians remain uncertain about Constantine's reasons for favoring Christianity, and theologians and historians have often argued about which form of early Christianity he subscribed to. There is no consensus among scholars as to whether he adopted his mother Helena's Christianity in his youth, or, as claimed by Eusebius of Caesarea, encouraged her to convert to the faith he had adopted.

I admit I am not in a possession to display the various events that happened. The theologians who studied the Bible for 15-20 years concluded how the Catholic Church was created, and function as of today.

Currently, I admit that the Church has been tarnished by some Popes whose human ills have overtaken the very purpose of their mission for Christ.

What we have now in Rome a proof to that. which blemished the whole sanctity of the Catholic faith established by Christ. Politics got involved through many factors. And political figures tried to destroy the sanctity of the Church. In 2013, leaders of politics got involved. How Francis was in and Pope Benedict out. World leaders succeeded to put it in a One World Government.

But I stand on my position for the Catholic Church. I thank God, I was raised a Catholic. I was blessed, and miracles happened and wonder if I deserve it. So, I have to defend it. I sin and cry to God to forgive my failures as I continue my journey until He calls me home. Please forgive me if my stance does not reconcile with yours.

I respect all discussion on these matters so important in our lives. Thank you. And I know God loves us all!

Radiance3

[quote=Ronald Hatt]In God's house, & In My life....God has led me to many church's....In France, Italy, Monico, Belgium, Mexico, Canada, Spain, et al....[ *Spain, the catholic church designed by "Gaudi", an unbelievable art design, from Renaissance, to ultra Modern! Gaudi had amazing insight, & projected his vision world wide! This church, in Barcelona: Is truly a work of man, inspired of God!

Do your self a favor, check out this Church![/quote]
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Christianity was the inspiration and object of the Rennaissance during the Middle Ages.

The works of art of brilliant men driven by the life of Christ and how it emboldened civilization in Europe. Spain, Italy, France, and finally spread throughout European nations. All Catholic Churches in Europe were of magnificent Gothic architecture.

Due to so many terrorists, and Atheists that grew, population worldwide, as Christians population diminish. Some of the most beautiful gothic Catholic Churches emptied and the violent Muslims bought some of them.

The architecture of Gothic building were so magnificent imaginations of art. All inspired for the love of Christ.

What happened now to Christianity.
About Christians versus Muslims regarding population growth.

Why Christianity is fast diminishing, and Muslims are increasing. Here are the problems why Christian population has been receding.
1. Materialism and comfort.
2. Massive abortion since 1970. 63 million babies killed and aborted.
3. Immoral behavior of men and women. Women bare their bodies in public. They become victims of rape. They abort and get sick.
4. Men becomes female called TRANS. They marry men to men and women to women. These could not produce human life.
5. Millions killed by drugs. Drug addictions hurt their natural health, most die, some left lunatics and drug addicts.
6. Vengeance. Massive killings. Killing of people of different race. Victims are mostly the Whites, Jews, and Asians.
7. Most couples have no child for convenience, comfort, and luxury lifestyle.
8. Lack of faith in God. Many became Atheists, others promote homosexuality like Joe Biden and Barack Obama.
9. Different sects of religions. Some only for earning material things using the Bible.
10. Millions are killed by Muslims. The ME Christians used to be 20 million. Now only few thousands left. They were killed by Muslims.
11. For 1400 years Muslims have killed 290 million Christians. Re. "Tears of Jihad" by Dr Bill Warner, Ph.D. and professor in physics. I suppose more than that by now.

12.Biden removed God from Public Schools; thus kids are killing each other.
13.Biden and Barack empowered homosexuality.
14. Rapid growth of Atheism.
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Here are reasons why Muslim multiply rapidly.
1.The Muslims don't allow abortion.
2. Their men marry many wives and bear many children.
3. Men are allowed to beat their wives, and rape other non-Muslims.
4. Women's bodies are properly covered, not exposed. I like that though.
5. Muslims pray 5 times a day. I like that also.

6. Muslims throw the gays, trannies, and lesbians out into the window to die.

Currently there are more Muslims in the world than Christians. And that is a fact.

Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich

The latter part of your post, suggests, that there might be a *Return of Sodom, & Gommorah! This time....the

"action", will be Punished, by incineration! ~*Muslims will burn just as easily as the unrepentant sinners!

P.S. There will not be enough Virgins, to go around, at 72, per man?...[ BTW, what do Muslim women get?]

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When it comes to women Christians and Muslims have very different treatment.
How women are treated for Christian marriage.
Genesis: 2:24
Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.”

Ephesians 5:33-35
25 Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, 26 that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, 27 so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish.[a] 28 In the same way husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ does the church, 30 because we are members of his body. 31 “Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.” 32 This mystery is profound, and I am saying that it refers to Christ and the church. 33 However, let each one of you love his wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband.

For the Muslims:
How do Muslims men treat their wives?
“In the event of a family dispute, the Qur’an exhorts the husband to treat his wife kindly and not overlook her POSITIVE ASPECTS (see Qur’an 4:19). If the problem relates to the wife’s behavior, her husband may exhort her and appeal for reason. In most cases, this measure is likely to be sufficient. In cases where the problem continues, the husband may express his displeasure in another peaceful manner, by sleeping in a separate bed from hers. There are cases, however, in which a wife persists in deliberate mistreatment and expresses contempt of her husband and disregard for her marital obligations. Instead of divorce, the husband may resort to another measure that may save the marriage, at least in some cases.”
https://www.reddit.com/r/MuslimLounge/comments/14dy970/can_men_beat_their_wives_in_islam_even_if_its/