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Apr 5, 2024 21:40:09   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
federally indicted mattoid wrote:
Maybe dtuck is John Barron, lol


“Seldom do people think things through foolishly. More often, they do not bother to think things through at all, so that even highly intelligent individuals can reach untenable conclusions because their brainpower means little if it is not deployed and applied.”

– Thomas Sowell

In other words, engage brain before putting mouth in gear.

This is why we bought you books and sent you to school. What do you do with your education? You treat it as if it is frivolous.

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Apr 5, 2024 21:48:57   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
dtucker300 wrote:
“Seldom do people think things through foolishly. More often, they do not bother to think things through at all, so that even highly intelligent individuals can reach untenable conclusions because their brainpower means little if it is not deployed and applied.”

– Thomas Sowell

In other words, engage brain before putting mouth in gear.

This is why we bought you books and sent you to school. What do you do with your education? You treat it as if it is frivolous.


Wonder if donny would take your pearls of wisdom about reading books...

Just kidding. He doesn't read books.

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Apr 5, 2024 21:55:22   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
federally indicted mattoid wrote:
Wonder if donny would take your pearls of wisdom about reading books...

Just kidding. He doesn't read books.


Probably not. Neither does Joe.

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Apr 5, 2024 22:08:13   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
Parky60 wrote:
The Christian thing to do would be to feed him AND tell him about what he REALLY needs... a savior whose name is Jesus Christ.

Food is temporal... Jesus is FOREVER!


But they need to have the time to absorb the message. And a reason to believe us.
James 2:14-26

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Apr 5, 2024 22:09:09   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
son of witless wrote:
The point of the moral of teaching someone to grow their own food is to make them self sufficient, so that they will eventually not need your help. In cities providing short term shelter, some occupational training and an entry level job to break the cycle of poverty is the exact same moral.

In the past I was financially and otherwise involved in such urban endeavors. All charities should be trying to put themselves out of business by trying to make sure those they are helping become self sufficient.
The point of the moral of teaching someone to grow... (show quote)


👍👍🙄

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Apr 5, 2024 22:23:37   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
archie bunker wrote:
You're just being difficult here. Nicest way to put it. I would prefer a different way, but, times are different. People are sensitive. So, you have to work with what ya got. I'm trying to have a conversation with you, and, you seem to be VERY combative, condescending, and disrespectful to what I'm trying to say.

If I'm sitting on mass acres that are paid for, (I own them) taxes paid, and all. Those acres are worth 10 million dollars, but, I OWN them, and choose to let them be, that value adds to my net worth. Right?
If I choose to barter, and trade with my neighbors, and other folks, that is just simple trade. Right? Yes, I made $400.00 selling that horse to Ed down the road.
Should I be required to report that cash transaction to the Federal Government because ownership of that land makes me worth millions?
You're just being difficult here. Nicest way to pu... (show quote)


Are you in a state that doesn't assess real estate taxes Arch?

Where we are in upstate NY, a homeowner with a house assessed at 200,000 will pay between 4k and 6k annually for school, village, town and county taxes on the assessed value of that house. There aren't many homes in this area worth 7 figures, but taxes on one would be unbelievably high.

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Apr 5, 2024 22:36:15   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Are you in a state that doesn't assess real estate taxes Arch?

Where we are in upstate NY, a homeowner with a house assessed at 200,000 will pay between 4k and 6k annually for school, village, town and county taxes on the assessed value of that house. There aren't many homes in this area worth 7 figures, but taxes on one would be unbelievably high.


None of you seem to get it. Sigh.......
Property taxes are assessed by the county, state, whatever. Thats fine. So, if a person owns a piece of land, whatever the acerage, that land is worth money, right?
Personally, I'm tired, and done with this circular argument with this self righteous individual.

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Apr 5, 2024 22:49:25   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
NotMAGA wrote:
But they need to have the time to absorb the message. And a reason to believe us.
James 2:14-26

So you're saying food is more important than salvation eh?

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Apr 5, 2024 22:51:29   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
archie bunker wrote:
None of you seem to get it. Sigh.......
Property taxes are assessed by the county, state, whatever. Thats fine. So, if a person owns a piece of land, whatever the acerage, that land is worth money, right?
Personally, I'm tired, and done with this circular argument with this self righteous individual.


G'night then. I asked the question because the idea of someone being wealthy but with no income would (imagine italics on would) be improbable in NY.

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Apr 5, 2024 22:52:25   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
Parky60 wrote:
So you're saying food is more important than salvation eh?


James said it first.
Not that it's more important, but if you want to save someone's soul, you need to take care of their physical needs too, and maybe even first.

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Apr 5, 2024 22:53:15   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
NotMAGA wrote:
James said it first.

It's apparent you don't understand what he said.

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Apr 5, 2024 22:54:25   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
Parky60 wrote:
It's apparent you don't understand what he said.


Explain your understanding of what he said please.

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Apr 5, 2024 22:55:57   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Explain your understanding of what he said please.

You first. You were the one who claimed that James said food was more important than salvation first.

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Apr 5, 2024 23:04:58   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
Parky60 wrote:
You first. You were the one who claimed that James said food was more important than salvation first.


I already explained it. You told me I didn't understand it. What's your take? Why would someone listen to you if you didn't take the time to get to know them first, and help them if they needed help?

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Apr 5, 2024 23:11:26   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
NotMAGA wrote:
G'night then. I asked the question because the idea of someone being wealthy but with no income would (imagine italics on would) be improbable in NY.


I'm not wealthy, but, I can live a long time with no income.
Depends on your lifestyle, I guess.
One of my grandads died a multi millionaire, lived in a hovel. Paid for stuff in cash till he died.
Just to simplify this even more.
Let's say that I own thousands of acres of land, multiple properties in town, all paid for, taxes paid on all of them. Worth multi millions altogether.
But, I live a simple, humble life, and saved money for later. I live off of money saved, but, have assets worth millions.
Am I a rich man?
Oh yeah, then there's the thing about how I sold Eddy down the street a lawnmower, so that's income.

Nevermind.....

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