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Mar 25, 2024 18:22:35   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
SeaLass wrote:
LOL!!!!!!!


So you too believe you live on a spinning ball. Nice

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Mar 25, 2024 18:23:23   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
SeaLass wrote:
LOL!!!!!!!


What else do you believe LOL!

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Mar 25, 2024 18:24:56   #
SeaLass Loc: Western Soviet Socialist Republics
 
Ri-chard wrote:
It is what WE see and experience - not pictures.

Do you experience your earth spinning and wobbling as it hurtles through space?


No, because I'm spinning and wobbling at exactly the same rate. If you are sitting in an airplane can you tell how fast it is moving? Do you have an answer for my satellite question?

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Mar 25, 2024 18:26:26   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Ri-chard wrote:
It is what WE see and experience - not pictures.

Do you experience your earth spinning and wobbling as it hurtles through space?
Yes I do. How about you?



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Mar 25, 2024 18:31:22   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
SeaLass wrote:
No, because I'm spinning and wobbling at exactly the same rate. If you are sitting in an airplane can you tell how fast it is moving? Do you have an answer for my satellite question?


Airplane speed by wind speed, yes.
Why does it take the same time for a round trip East coast to West coast as West Coast to East coast if your ball spins fast than a commercial passenger plane can fly. LOL again.
You are indeed dizzy.
Satliiite pics LOL

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Mar 25, 2024 19:06:45   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Yes I do. How about you?


That's a CGI Pics. Enen NASA said so, it has to be. Dummy down too down..

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Mar 25, 2024 20:56:49   #
SeaLass Loc: Western Soviet Socialist Republics
 
Ri-chard wrote:
Airplane speed by wind speed, yes.
Why does it take the same time for a round trip East coast to West coast as West Coast to East coast if your ball spins fast than a commercial passenger plane can fly. LOL again.
You are indeed dizzy.
Satliiite pics LOL


Because the momentum of the earth's spin is carries the atmosphere at the same rate, the same as the air in a plane is carried forward by the plane, so that RELAITIVE TO A "NON-SPINNING EARTH" the plane is flying slower when going heading east than when it is heading west. Why is it that you could walk from the front of the plane to the back of the plane in roughly the same time as walking from the back to the front? You're able to walk at 500 MPH when walking from the back to the front? May I ask if you have ever had any exposure to basic physics?

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Mar 25, 2024 21:01:51   #
SeaLass Loc: Western Soviet Socialist Republics
 
Ri-chard wrote:
That's a CGI Pics. Enen NASA said so, it has to be. Dummy down too down..


Also CGI, from 1969?

https://www.nasa.gov/image-article/apollo-8-earthrise/

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Mar 25, 2024 22:56:06   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
SeaLass wrote:
Because the momentum of the earth's spin is carries the atmosphere at the same rate, the same as the air in a plane is carried forward by the plane, so that RELAITIVE TO A "NON-SPINNING EARTH" the plane is flying slower when going heading east than when it is heading west. Why is it that you could walk from the front of the plane to the back of the plane in roughly the same time as walking from the back to the front? You're able to walk at 500 MPH when walking from the back to the front? May I ask if you have ever had any exposure to basic physics?
Because the momentum of the earth's spin is carrie... (show quote)


Because the momentum of the earth's spin is carries the atmosphere at the same rate, Now that's funny when the clouds/atmosphere are moving in all direction across the oceans. Yes even moving against YOUR spinning Ball Earth's so-called rotation.
So the air speed of the plane is what? Slower one way than the other direction? You can swallow that one better than Monica did.
Think if you claim the earth is spinning 1.000+mph and the plane is flying at 500mph into that head wind, what would happen to that plane with that kind of total wind speed? 1,500+mph Now that's proves you are brain washed by your ignorance. the plane would be going backwards and be ripped apart.
OK let fly in the opposite direction, now the plane has a tail wind of 1,000+ mph which is faster than the plane can fly. That's awl-some shit.

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Mar 25, 2024 23:44:26   #
SeaLass Loc: Western Soviet Socialist Republics
 
Ri-chard wrote:
Because the momentum of the earth's spin is carries the atmosphere at the same rate, Now that's funny when the clouds/atmosphere are moving in all direction across the oceans. Yes even moving against YOUR spinning Ball Earth's so-called rotation.
So the air speed of the plane is what? Slower one way than the other direction? You can swallow that one better than Monica did.
Think if you claim the earth is spinning 1.000+mph and the plane is flying at 500mph into that head wind, what would happen to that plane with that kind of total wind speed? 1,500+mph Now that's proves you are brain washed by your ignorance. the plane would be going backwards and be ripped apart.
OK let fly in the opposite direction, now the plane has a tail wind of 1,000+ mph which is faster than the plane can fly. That's awl-some shit.
Because the momentum of the earth's spin is carrie... (show quote)




NO, NOT THE AIR SPEED, the speed relative to a coordinate system that does not move with the earth's spin, say the sidereal coordinates using the fixed stars. Actually, very few planes can fly "eastward" if plotted on this system, any more than you could walk eastward (relative to the ground which is stationary relative to you) on a train doing even 50 MPH westward. By walking eastward you reduce the distance you travel westward compared to someone staying in their seat, but your net movement is still westward at say 47 MPH.

Remember the air (atmosphere) is moving approximately AT THE SAME SPEED THE EARTH IS ROTATING, otherwise you would be living in a eastward blowing wind that would reach ~1,000 MPH at the equator, or roughly 700 - 800 MPH in the US. The speed of the earth's rotation at a given latitude is close to: 1,000 MPH x cosine of the angle off the equator, or more formally v= 1,000 MPH * |cos(w)|.

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Mar 25, 2024 23:52:50   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
SeaLass wrote:
NO, NOT THE AIR SPEED, the speed relative to a coordinate system that does not move with the earth's spin, say the sidereal coordinates using the fixed stars. Actually, very few planes can fly "eastward" if plotted on this system, any more than you could walk eastward (relative to the ground which is stationary relative to you) on a train doing even 50 MPH westward. By walking eastward you reduce the distance you travel westward compared to someone staying in their seat, but your net movement is still westward at say 47 MPH.

Remember the air (atmosphere) is moving approximately AT THE SAME SPEED THE EARTH IS ROTATING, otherwise you would be living in a eastward blowing wind that would reach ~1,000 MPH at the equator, or roughly 700 - 800 MPH in the US. The speed of the earth's rotation at a given latitude is close to: 1,000 MPH x cosine of the angle off the equator, or more formally v= 1,000 MPH * |cos(w)|.
NO, NOT THE AIR SPEED, the speed relative to a coo... (show quote)


I trust you will keep believing what you stated. You will believe anything just like that blade guy. He believe the bible is an accurate account of Genesis and without proof. He believes the Americans defeated the British Empire during the Revolutionary War and without presenting any documented proof of it.

Good luck and stay in place.

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Mar 26, 2024 00:06:39   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
SeaLass wrote:
NO, NOT THE AIR SPEED, the speed relative to a coordinate system that does not move with the earth's spin, say the sidereal coordinates using the fixed stars. Actually, very few planes can fly "eastward" if plotted on this system, any more than you could walk eastward (relative to the ground which is stationary relative to you) on a train doing even 50 MPH westward. By walking eastward you reduce the distance you travel westward compared to someone staying in their seat, but your net movement is still westward at say 47 MPH.

Remember the air (atmosphere) is moving approximately AT THE SAME SPEED THE EARTH IS ROTATING, otherwise you would be living in a eastward blowing wind that would reach ~1,000 MPH at the equator, or roughly 700 - 800 MPH in the US. The speed of the earth's rotation at a given latitude is close to: 1,000 MPH x cosine of the angle off the equator, or more formally v= 1,000 MPH * |cos(w)|.
NO, NOT THE AIR SPEED, the speed relative to a coo... (show quote)


And we are still waiting on those satellite pics of planes and ships etc moving up and down the sides of your ball earth.
And since you ball earth guys believe the Earth rotates eastward, how come the round-trip flight times are virtually the same. Think! Leaving California West to NY is East should be one set of air miles and the other a very short flight. Is NY spinning towards or away from you? I.e. by your spinning claims.

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Mar 26, 2024 00:31:19   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
SeaLass wrote:
NO, NOT THE AIR SPEED, the speed relative to a coordinate system that does not move with the earth's spin, say the sidereal coordinates using the fixed stars. Actually, very few planes can fly "eastward" if plotted on this system, any more than you could walk eastward (relative to the ground which is stationary relative to you) on a train doing even 50 MPH westward. By walking eastward you reduce the distance you travel westward compared to someone staying in their seat, but your net movement is still westward at say 47 MPH.

Remember the air (atmosphere) is moving approximately AT THE SAME SPEED THE EARTH IS ROTATING, otherwise you would be living in a eastward blowing wind that would reach ~1,000 MPH at the equator, or roughly 700 - 800 MPH in the US. The speed of the earth's rotation at a given latitude is close to: 1,000 MPH x cosine of the angle off the equator, or more formally v= 1,000 MPH * |cos(w)|.
NO, NOT THE AIR SPEED, the speed relative to a coo... (show quote)


Einstein tried to prove what you claim and couldn't. No spin, no curved oceans, planes fly in level flight never flying down over a curved ball, the earth is never going away or coming towards you, the horizon looking out of the cockpit is aways straight ahead never looking down at it no matter the height you are at, no rivers or streams are flowing up the sides of your spinning ball theory.

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Mar 26, 2024 00:58:54   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
The photo of Earthrise by astronaut William Anders is not a computer generated image.
He took that pic with a Hasselblad still camera, fitted with a 250-mm telephoto lens.

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Mar 26, 2024 02:10:37   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Ri-chard wrote:
Because the momentum of the earth's spin is carries the atmosphere at the same rate, Now that's funny when the clouds/atmosphere are moving in all direction across the oceans. Yes even moving against YOUR spinning Ball Earth's so-called rotation.
So the air speed of the plane is what? Slower one way than the other direction? You can swallow that one better than Monica did.
Think if you claim the earth is spinning 1.000+mph and the plane is flying at 500mph into that head wind, what would happen to that plane with that kind of total wind speed? 1,500+mph Now that's proves you are brain washed by your ignorance. the plane would be going backwards and be ripped apart.
OK let fly in the opposite direction, now the plane has a tail wind of 1,000+ mph which is faster than the plane can fly. That's awl-some shit.
Because the momentum of the earth's spin is carrie... (show quote)
The earth and it's atmosphere is a dynamic system.
Under the force of gravity, the atmosphere rotates in sync with the land mass,
this means the atmosphere is moving at 1000+MPH right along with the earth.
Since space is essentially a vacuum, there are no obstacles that would disrupt or otherwise interfere with the atmosphere.

Therefore, the airspeed and ground speed of a jet flying any direction depends on atmospheric conditions - weather, wind direction and speed, humidity, air density, altitude, etc.

The ground speed of a jet flying any direction in calm conditions would match the indicated airspeed.
IOW, at an IAS of 470mph, the ground speed would be 470mph.

With a 20mph head wind, the jet would still indicate an airspeed of 470mph, but the speed across the ground would be 450mph.

Conversely, with a tail wind of 20mph, maintaining 470 indicated airspeed, the ground speed would be 490mph.

The rotation of the earth and its atmosphere has no effect on an aircraft's airspeed or ground speed.
It is simply the physics of a dynamic system and is no mystery to anyone with a basic science education.
Or for aviators who deal with the weather every time they takeoff. Been there, done that, many times.

Taken by astronaut Richard Gordon, Apollo 12, November 19, 1969.
Taken by astronaut Richard Gordon, Apollo 12, Nove...

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