Why Is The West Suddenly Revealing Its Troop Presence In Ukraine? "In just a couple of weeks, American and German leaks placed U.S. troops in Ukraine, Germany placed France and Britain...

ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

"In just a couple of weeks, American and German leaks placed U.S. troops in Ukraine, Germany placed France and Britain in Ukraine, the British confirmed they were in Ukraine, Poland confirmed that NATO troops were in Ukraine, and France suggested that, if they’re not, perhaps they should be. What is the motivation behind this sudden chorus of confessions?

There are at least four—and probably a lot more—possibilities. All of them are just speculation.

The least scary is that, recognizing that the West has lost the war in Ukraine and that, after encouraging Ukraine to reject a diplomatic solution in favor of pressing the fight with the promise of Western weapons and support for as long as it takes, the leading supporters of Ukraine are trying to establish the case that they did everything they could: even putting troops on the ground in Ukraine.

The second least scary is that the leaks and revelations are meant to pressure the United States and some European countries to send more financial aid and weapons packages to Ukraine. The belief might be that the they would find that option more palatable than crossing their own red line and sending troops into Ukraine.

The third least scary is that the West is trying to create a perception in Russia of strategic ambiguity. The French newspaper Le Monde reports, “Macron’s office explained that the aim is to restore the West’s ‘strategic ambiguity.’ After the failure of the Ukrainian 2023 counter-offensive, the French president believes that promising tens of billions of euros in aid and delivering—delayed—military equipment to Kyiv is no longer enough. Especially if Putin is convinced that the West has permanently ruled out mobilizing its forces.”

The scariest possibility that was suggested to me is that the West is serious both about NATO troops already being in Ukraine and about the possibility of sending more NATO troops not being ruled out. The leaks and revelations are intended to lay the groundwork for sending more troops. The idea is to sell the idea of sending more troops by desensitizing reluctant Western partners to the risk by pointing out that the risk has already been taken. They might even add that Russia knows it and hasn’t escalated and drawn the West into a NATO-Russia war.

If true, that is a dangerous and difficult to calculate risk. How many troops could be sent before triggering a Russian response?"

MY COMMENT: You have to be living under a rock if you failed to realize that the NATO countries have been using western "volunteers- lol" in their proxy war against Russia since at least 2014. It is time to pull the plug on this insane waste of lives and treasure!

https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/why-is-the-west-suddenly-revealing-its-troop-presence-in-ukraine/

American Vet

ACP45 wrote:

"In just a couple of weeks, American and German leaks placed U.S. troops in Ukraine, Germany placed France and Britain in Ukraine, the British confirmed they were in Ukraine, Poland confirmed that NATO troops were in Ukraine, and France suggested that, if they’re not, perhaps they should be. What is the motivation behind this sudden chorus of confessions?

There are at least four—and probably a lot more—possibilities. All of them are just speculation.

The least scary is that, recognizing that the West has lost the war in Ukraine and that, after encouraging Ukraine to reject a diplomatic solution in favor of pressing the fight with the promise of Western weapons and support for as long as it takes, the leading supporters of Ukraine are trying to establish the case that they did everything they could: even putting troops on the ground in Ukraine.

The second least scary is that the leaks and revelations are meant to pressure the United States and some European countries to send more financial aid and weapons packages to Ukraine. The belief might be that the they would find that option more palatable than crossing their own red line and sending troops into Ukraine.

The third least scary is that the West is trying to create a perception in Russia of strategic ambiguity. The French newspaper Le Monde reports, “Macron’s office explained that the aim is to restore the West’s ‘strategic ambiguity.’ After the failure of the Ukrainian 2023 counter-offensive, the French president believes that promising tens of billions of euros in aid and delivering—delayed—military equipment to Kyiv is no longer enough. Especially if Putin is convinced that the West has permanently ruled out mobilizing its forces.”

The scariest possibility that was suggested to me is that the West is serious both about NATO troops already being in Ukraine and about the possibility of sending more NATO troops not being ruled out. The leaks and revelations are intended to lay the groundwork for sending more troops. The idea is to sell the idea of sending more troops by desensitizing reluctant Western partners to the risk by pointing out that the risk has already been taken. They might even add that Russia knows it and hasn’t escalated and drawn the West into a NATO-Russia war.

If true, that is a dangerous and difficult to calculate risk. How many troops could be sent before triggering a Russian response?"

MY COMMENT: You have to be living under a rock if you failed to realize that the NATO countries have been using western "volunteers- lol" in their proxy war against Russia since at least 2014. It is time to pull the plug on this insane waste of lives and treasure!

https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/why-is-the-west-suddenly-revealing-its-troop-presence-in-ukraine/

"In just a couple of weeks, American and Germ... (show quote)

Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!

ACP45 wrote:

"In just a couple of weeks, American and German leaks placed U.S. troops in Ukraine, Germany placed France and Britain in Ukraine, the British confirmed they were in Ukraine, Poland confirmed that NATO troops were in Ukraine, and France suggested that, if they’re not, perhaps they should be. What is the motivation behind this sudden chorus of confessions?

There are at least four—and probably a lot more—possibilities. All of them are just speculation.

The least scary is that, recognizing that the West has lost the war in Ukraine and that, after encouraging Ukraine to reject a diplomatic solution in favor of pressing the fight with the promise of Western weapons and support for as long as it takes, the leading supporters of Ukraine are trying to establish the case that they did everything they could: even putting troops on the ground in Ukraine.

The second least scary is that the leaks and revelations are meant to pressure the United States and some European countries to send more financial aid and weapons packages to Ukraine. The belief might be that the they would find that option more palatable than crossing their own red line and sending troops into Ukraine.

The third least scary is that the West is trying to create a perception in Russia of strategic ambiguity. The French newspaper Le Monde reports, “Macron’s office explained that the aim is to restore the West’s ‘strategic ambiguity.’ After the failure of the Ukrainian 2023 counter-offensive, the French president believes that promising tens of billions of euros in aid and delivering—delayed—military equipment to Kyiv is no longer enough. Especially if Putin is convinced that the West has permanently ruled out mobilizing its forces.”

The scariest possibility that was suggested to me is that the West is serious both about NATO troops already being in Ukraine and about the possibility of sending more NATO troops not being ruled out. The leaks and revelations are intended to lay the groundwork for sending more troops. The idea is to sell the idea of sending more troops by desensitizing reluctant Western partners to the risk by pointing out that the risk has already been taken. They might even add that Russia knows it and hasn’t escalated and drawn the West into a NATO-Russia war.

If true, that is a dangerous and difficult to calculate risk. How many troops could be sent before triggering a Russian response?"

MY COMMENT: You have to be living under a rock if you failed to realize that the NATO countries have been using western "volunteers- lol" in their proxy war against Russia since at least 2014. It is time to pull the plug on this insane waste of lives and treasure!

https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/why-is-the-west-suddenly-revealing-its-troop-presence-in-ukraine/

"In just a couple of weeks, American and Germ... (show quote)

Joe Biden and his 45 - Four Star Generals completely underestimated Russia's Advanced Technology and Their Ability to Destroy any and every Enemy that dares to put Russia on the chopping block.🚫
We where Outgunned, Outmatched, and Out Manned, at every turn in Ukraine 🇺🇦 😏.
Biden will never tell the truth that He and his Administration F#@^KED UP, Royally, And Has Wasted Over $3Trillion Dollars on Ukraine Since 2014! ●
We damn well better end this thing while we only have 3 Russian Nuclear Submarines off our Coast Lines Within Striking Destance!

Gatsby

ACP45 wrote:

"In just a couple of weeks, American and German leaks placed U.S. troops in Ukraine, Germany placed France and Britain in Ukraine, the British confirmed they were in Ukraine, Poland confirmed that NATO troops were in Ukraine, and France suggested that, if they’re not, perhaps they should be. What is the motivation behind this sudden chorus of confessions?

There are at least four—and probably a lot more—possibilities. All of them are just speculation.

The least scary is that, recognizing that the West has lost the war in Ukraine and that, after encouraging Ukraine to reject a diplomatic solution in favor of pressing the fight with the promise of Western weapons and support for as long as it takes, the leading supporters of Ukraine are trying to establish the case that they did everything they could: even putting troops on the ground in Ukraine.

The second least scary is that the leaks and revelations are meant to pressure the United States and some European countries to send more financial aid and weapons packages to Ukraine. The belief might be that the they would find that option more palatable than crossing their own red line and sending troops into Ukraine.

The third least scary is that the West is trying to create a perception in Russia of strategic ambiguity. The French newspaper Le Monde reports, “Macron’s office explained that the aim is to restore the West’s ‘strategic ambiguity.’ After the failure of the Ukrainian 2023 counter-offensive, the French president believes that promising tens of billions of euros in aid and delivering—delayed—military equipment to Kyiv is no longer enough. Especially if Putin is convinced that the West has permanently ruled out mobilizing its forces.”

The scariest possibility that was suggested to me is that the West is serious both about NATO troops already being in Ukraine and about the possibility of sending more NATO troops not being ruled out. The leaks and revelations are intended to lay the groundwork for sending more troops. The idea is to sell the idea of sending more troops by desensitizing reluctant Western partners to the risk by pointing out that the risk has already been taken. They might even add that Russia knows it and hasn’t escalated and drawn the West into a NATO-Russia war.

If true, that is a dangerous and difficult to calculate risk. How many troops could be sent before triggering a Russian response?"

MY COMMENT: You have to be living under a rock if you failed to realize that the NATO countries have been using western "volunteers- lol" in their proxy war against Russia since at least 2014. It is time to pull the plug on this insane waste of lives and treasure!

https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/why-is-the-west-suddenly-revealing-its-troop-presence-in-ukraine/

"In just a couple of weeks, American and Germ... (show quote)

The CIA does not possess "Troops".

Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!

American Vet wrote:

I think Joe Biden and his administration have a complete lack of common sence to even think they could take up arms against this country, which is thousands of miles away, without a single supply line for the troops.

Kevyn

ACP45 wrote:

"In just a couple of weeks, American and German leaks placed U.S. troops in Ukraine, Germany placed France and Britain in Ukraine, the British confirmed they were in Ukraine, Poland confirmed that NATO troops were in Ukraine, and France suggested that, if they’re not, perhaps they should be. What is the motivation behind this sudden chorus of confessions?

There are at least four—and probably a lot more—possibilities. All of them are just speculation.

The least scary is that, recognizing that the West has lost the war in Ukraine and that, after encouraging Ukraine to reject a diplomatic solution in favor of pressing the fight with the promise of Western weapons and support for as long as it takes, the leading supporters of Ukraine are trying to establish the case that they did everything they could: even putting troops on the ground in Ukraine.

The second least scary is that the leaks and revelations are meant to pressure the United States and some European countries to send more financial aid and weapons packages to Ukraine. The belief might be that the they would find that option more palatable than crossing their own red line and sending troops into Ukraine.

The third least scary is that the West is trying to create a perception in Russia of strategic ambiguity. The French newspaper Le Monde reports, “Macron’s office explained that the aim is to restore the West’s ‘strategic ambiguity.’ After the failure of the Ukrainian 2023 counter-offensive, the French president believes that promising tens of billions of euros in aid and delivering—delayed—military equipment to Kyiv is no longer enough. Especially if Putin is convinced that the West has permanently ruled out mobilizing its forces.”

The scariest possibility that was suggested to me is that the West is serious both about NATO troops already being in Ukraine and about the possibility of sending more NATO troops not being ruled out. The leaks and revelations are intended to lay the groundwork for sending more troops. The idea is to sell the idea of sending more troops by desensitizing reluctant Western partners to the risk by pointing out that the risk has already been taken. They might even add that Russia knows it and hasn’t escalated and drawn the West into a NATO-Russia war.

If true, that is a dangerous and difficult to calculate risk. How many troops could be sent before triggering a Russian response?"

MY COMMENT: You have to be living under a rock if you failed to realize that the NATO countries have been using western "volunteers- lol" in their proxy war against Russia since at least 2014. It is time to pull the plug on this insane waste of lives and treasure!

https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/why-is-the-west-suddenly-revealing-its-troop-presence-in-ukraine/

"In just a couple of weeks, American and Germ... (show quote)

Putin should be crapping himself and back off, his days are numbered.

Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!

Kevyn wrote:

Putin should be crapping himself and back off, his days are numbered.

Now that's Funny. 😁

guzzimaestro

Weasel wrote:

Now that's Funny. 😁

Yeah, troll boy is a real hoot

Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!

guzzimaestro wrote:

Yeah, troll boy is a real hoot

Here is the Long, and Short of it.
Biden better Wake the Hell up.

https://youtu.be/LN1rULx2oi4?si=5oJOr2sPGc7BjAzx
And Still, there are No Munitions. Come on man. Where's your head at?

Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!

Weasel wrote:

Here is the Long, and Short of it.
Biden better Wake the Hell up.

https://youtu.be/LN1rULx2oi4?si=5oJOr2sPGc7BjAzx
And Still, there are No Munitions. Come on man. Where's your head at?

Poland's Responce.

liberalhunter Loc: Your mom's house

Kevyn wrote:

Biden is crapping himself and back off his meds, his days are numbered, read that on my German bathroom fetish site.

pegw

ACP45 wrote:

"In just a couple of weeks, American and German leaks placed U.S. troops in Ukraine, Germany placed France and Britain in Ukraine, the British confirmed they were in Ukraine, Poland confirmed that NATO troops were in Ukraine, and France suggested that, if they’re not, perhaps they should be. What is the motivation behind this sudden chorus of confessions?

There are at least four—and probably a lot more—possibilities. All of them are just speculation.

The least scary is that, recognizing that the West has lost the war in Ukraine and that, after encouraging Ukraine to reject a diplomatic solution in favor of pressing the fight with the promise of Western weapons and support for as long as it takes, the leading supporters of Ukraine are trying to establish the case that they did everything they could: even putting troops on the ground in Ukraine.

The second least scary is that the leaks and revelations are meant to pressure the United States and some European countries to send more financial aid and weapons packages to Ukraine. The belief might be that the they would find that option more palatable than crossing their own red line and sending troops into Ukraine.

The third least scary is that the West is trying to create a perception in Russia of strategic ambiguity. The French newspaper Le Monde reports, “Macron’s office explained that the aim is to restore the West’s ‘strategic ambiguity.’ After the failure of the Ukrainian 2023 counter-offensive, the French president believes that promising tens of billions of euros in aid and delivering—delayed—military equipment to Kyiv is no longer enough. Especially if Putin is convinced that the West has permanently ruled out mobilizing its forces.”

The scariest possibility that was suggested to me is that the West is serious both about NATO troops already being in Ukraine and about the possibility of sending more NATO troops not being ruled out. The leaks and revelations are intended to lay the groundwork for sending more troops. The idea is to sell the idea of sending more troops by desensitizing reluctant Western partners to the risk by pointing out that the risk has already been taken. They might even add that Russia knows it and hasn’t escalated and drawn the West into a NATO-Russia war.

If true, that is a dangerous and difficult to calculate risk. How many troops could be sent before triggering a Russian response?"

MY COMMENT: You have to be living under a rock if you failed to realize that the NATO countries have been using western "volunteers- lol" in their proxy war against Russia since at least 2014. It is time to pull the plug on this insane waste of lives aainend treasure!

https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/why-is-the-west-suddenly-revealing-its-troop-presence-in-ukraine/

"In just a couple of weeks, American and Germ... (show quote)

have not heard of any western troops in Ukraine. What is your source?

ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

pegw wrote:

have not heard of any western troops in Ukraine. What is your source?

Try reading my original post.... A bit more carefully this time.