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Mar 18, 2024 17:01:14   #
DASHY
 
JFlorio wrote:
Nice try. We were talking about unions coward. The military doesn't have a union. Yep, and that's same military can't account for over a trillion dollars. Government at it's finest.


I was not a union member when I was employed by state government.
Soldiers in uniform are not in control of military spending.

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Mar 18, 2024 17:07:55   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
JFlorio wrote:
Nice try. We were talking about unions coward. The military doesn't have a union. Yep, and that's same military can't account for over a trillion dollars. Government at it's finest.


You know if the left was securing their policies in their beliefs they won't have to lie about everything but it seems like that's all they do is twist and lie

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Mar 18, 2024 17:17:07   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
microphor wrote:
You know if the left was securing their policies in their beliefs they won't have to lie about everything but it seems like that's all they do is twist and lie


So God Made A Liberal...
https://youtu.be/EUzMPlQb2G4

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Mar 18, 2024 17:27:24   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
DASHY wrote:
I was not a union member when I was employed by state government.
Soldiers in uniform are not in control of military spending.


What the hell is your point, except to lead the conversation away from what we were talking about?

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Mar 18, 2024 18:41:56   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
JFlorio wrote:
Worker pay lost value under Biden. Biden hasn’t put forth any health care policies. Stock market percentage wise was higher under Trump. Never gauge a president by the market. Macroeconomics is different from microeconomics. The question you should ask is; “Why is the market up?” I’ll tell you. Printed money.
This is all above your pay grade because, well, you’re not very smart.


"This is all above your pay grade because, well, you’re not very smart."

Yep!

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Mar 18, 2024 20:27:44   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
DASHY wrote:
I was not a union member when I was employed by state government.
Soldiers in uniform are not in control of military spending.


The military has no need for unions due to the structure of the military. And the military has two major groups that fight for the service member, that is the VFW and American Legion.

However there is a need for unions in the civilian world. Unions are best at protecting the workers job and safety concerns. I say this as a union steward.

How ever the good part of a union: you can keep your job. The bad part of a union: you can keep your job.

Unions are necessary to keep the company honest. However what keeps the unions honest? The company is supposed to do that...that's what collective bargaining is all about.

Now, when a company and a union, join forces, anything can be accomplished, the problem lies in how far they go....humanity or mankind pushes the limits of everything and both the company and unions can go too far. Enter the government.

In a properly run company, with a properly run union, with a properly run government, the salary and hourly workers thrive. But if one element is off, then all fail. The necessity of fairness is the key. The elimination of greed is also a necessity of fairness.

This transcends all aspects of life, to include safety. Osha would not exist had it not been for unions, and unions would not exist had it not been for companies, and none of the dynamic would exist without a governing entity to ensure fairness.

Companies are only as good as thier people, and unions are only as good as thier membership, and government is only as good as those they govern.

And to know MAGA is to understand this dynamic.

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Mar 18, 2024 20:47:36   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
The military has no need for unions due to the structure of the military. And the military has two major groups that fight for the service member, that is the VFW and American Legion.

However there is a need for unions in the civilian world. Unions are best at protecting the workers job and safety concerns. I say this as a union steward.

How ever the good part of a union: you can keep your job. The bad part of a union: you can keep your job.

Unions are necessary to keep the company honest. However what keeps the unions honest? The company is supposed to do that...that's what collective bargaining is all about.

Now, when a company and a union, join forces, anything can be accomplished, the problem lies in how far they go....humanity or mankind pushes the limits of everything and both the company and unions can go too far. Enter the government.

In a properly run company, with a properly run union, with a properly run government, the salary and hourly workers thrive. But if one element is off, then all fail. The necessity of fairness is the key. The elimination of greed is also a necessity of fairness.

This transcends all aspects of life, to include safety. Osha would not exist had it not been for unions, and unions would not exist had it not been for companies, and none of the dynamic would exist without a governing entity to ensure fairness.

Companies are only as good as thier people, and unions are only as good as thier membership, and government is only as good as those they govern.

And to know MAGA is to understand this dynamic.
The military has no need for unions due to the str... (show quote)



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Mar 18, 2024 21:21:34   #
Ready player 1
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
The military has no need for unions due to the structure of the military. And the military has two major groups that fight for the service member, that is the VFW and American Legion.

However there is a need for unions in the civilian world. Unions are best at protecting the workers job and safety concerns. I say this as a union steward.

How ever the good part of a union: you can keep your job. The bad part of a union: you can keep your job.

Unions are necessary to keep the company honest. However what keeps the unions honest? The company is supposed to do that...that's what collective bargaining is all about.

Now, when a company and a union, join forces, anything can be accomplished, the problem lies in how far they go....humanity or mankind pushes the limits of everything and both the company and unions can go too far. Enter the government.

In a properly run company, with a properly run union, with a properly run government, the salary and hourly workers thrive. But if one element is off, then all fail. The necessity of fairness is the key. The elimination of greed is also a necessity of fairness.

This transcends all aspects of life, to include safety. Osha would not exist had it not been for unions, and unions would not exist had it not been for companies, and none of the dynamic would exist without a governing entity to ensure fairness.

Companies are only as good as thier people, and unions are only as good as thier membership, and government is only as good as those they govern.

And to know MAGA is to understand this dynamic.
The military has no need for unions due to the str... (show quote)



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Mar 18, 2024 22:15:20   #
Ready player 1
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
The military has no need for unions due to the structure of the military. And the military has two major groups that fight for the service member, that is the VFW and American Legion.

However there is a need for unions in the civilian world. Unions are best at protecting the workers job and safety concerns. I say this as a union steward.

How ever the good part of a union: you can keep your job. The bad part of a union: you can keep your job.

Unions are necessary to keep the company honest. However what keeps the unions honest? The company is supposed to do that...that's what collective bargaining is all about.

Now, when a company and a union, join forces, anything can be accomplished, the problem lies in how far they go....humanity or mankind pushes the limits of everything and both the company and unions can go too far. Enter the government.

In a properly run company, with a properly run union, with a properly run government, the salary and hourly workers thrive. But if one element is off, then all fail. The necessity of fairness is the key. The elimination of greed is also a necessity of fairness.

This transcends all aspects of life, to include safety. Osha would not exist had it not been for unions, and unions would not exist had it not been for companies, and none of the dynamic would exist without a governing entity to ensure fairness.

Companies are only as good as thier people, and unions are only as good as thier membership, and government is only as good as those they govern.

And to know MAGA is to understand this dynamic.
The military has no need for unions due to the str... (show quote)


I found quite a bit of humor about keeping your job, being a Union employee.

You really can't loose the job unless you're extremely stupid, even then, they just find you a different shop to work out of. Civilian roofers union here. It's interesting that even when there is no work you get put on a list for the next available assignment for work and the union keeps track of every hour you work. You really don't need to go job hunting when you sign up for unemployment. The union let's them know if you worked that week or not until permanently employed again. The crazy part is when renegotiating a contract. It can be devastating if it lasts for very long. That for my family was every 4 yrs. Most of the time it didn't last more that a month. But a few times it did last for 6 months or more. Strikes were a bit harsh for union families. Feast or famine. You cant work for anyone in your industry less you loose all your benefits your earned up to that point while on strike.

I will say for those who adhered to the union regulations retirement has been quite nice!

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Mar 19, 2024 05:25:56   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
The military has no need for unions due to the structure of the military. And the military has two major groups that fight for the service member, that is the VFW and American Legion.

However there is a need for unions in the civilian world. Unions are best at protecting the workers job and safety concerns. I say this as a union steward.

How ever the good part of a union: you can keep your job. The bad part of a union: you can keep your job.

Unions are necessary to keep the company honest. However what keeps the unions honest? The company is supposed to do that...that's what collective bargaining is all about.

Now, when a company and a union, join forces, anything can be accomplished, the problem lies in how far they go....humanity or mankind pushes the limits of everything and both the company and unions can go too far. Enter the government.

In a properly run company, with a properly run union, with a properly run government, the salary and hourly workers thrive. But if one element is off, then all fail. The necessity of fairness is the key. The elimination of greed is also a necessity of fairness.

This transcends all aspects of life, to include safety. Osha would not exist had it not been for unions, and unions would not exist had it not been for companies, and none of the dynamic would exist without a governing entity to ensure fairness.

Companies are only as good as thier people, and unions are only as good as thier membership, and government is only as good as those they govern.

And to know MAGA is to understand this dynamic.
The military has no need for unions due to the str... (show quote)


Great analysis, Ranger!

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Mar 19, 2024 08:28:15   #
DASHY
 
JFlorio wrote:
What the hell is your point, except to lead the conversation away from what we were talking about?


You said "Nice try. We were talking about unions coward. The military doesn't have a union. Yep, and that's same military can't account for over a trillion dollars. Government at it's finest."

I thought you were talking about "unions coward" (whatever that is) and military spending over a trillion dollars.

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Mar 19, 2024 08:34:45   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
DASHY wrote:
You said "Nice try. We were talking about unions coward. The military doesn't have a union. Yep, and that's same military can't account for over a trillion dollars. Government at it's finest."

I thought you were talking about "unions coward" (whatever that is) and military spending over a trillion dollars.


Take a hike until you answer my original question. Coward.

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Mar 19, 2024 08:41:10   #
DASHY
 
JFlorio wrote:
Take a hike until you answer my original question. Coward.


My answer about abortion is always the same. I never had one and I never will. What you do with your life is your business, not mine.

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Mar 19, 2024 08:48:10   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
DASHY wrote:
My answer about abortion is always the same. I never had one and I never will. What you do with your life is your business, not mine.


You didn’t answer the question coward. When’s it to late to have an abortion?

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Mar 19, 2024 09:34:19   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
DASHY wrote:
My answer about abortion is always the same. I never had one and I never will. What you do with your life is your business, not mine.


"My answer about abortion is always the same. I never had one and I never will."
I guess many of us are wondering if you have a vagina, DASHY.

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