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Mar 17, 2024 14:21:15   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
You really have swallowed the lies, haven't you? You appear unable to read for comprehension.


Same is said for you.

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Mar 17, 2024 14:21:56   #
martsiva
 
TJKMO wrote:
I hope your reference to “Sumner” (sic) is not you hoping for Civil War 2.0.
I have seen other MAGA say they long for such a war.
I hope you are not one of them.


YOU point out where any MAGAs are longing for war!!! All YOU do is constantly lie!!

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Mar 17, 2024 14:23:30   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
If you are almost 80, you were definitely skipped over in the wisdom dept. I'm sure you lacked wisdom at 20 but to think that 60 years later you still lack wisdom is criminal. As for senile joe, he has already ruined at least 50% of our democratic principles and is heading toward ruining the other 50% before he croaks or leaves office shortly.


Oh, I'll put my IQ up againt yours any day. When somone like trump says he will negotiate himself a third presidency, I believe him. When he talks about spilled blood, he is encouraging the idiots supporting his to do exactly that, just as they did on January 6 as a result of his urging. If anyone is failoing to understand what trump is all about, it is the people supporting him. He is that evil and selfish. And way too many people in this forum have no abiloity to see through the history of what the congress has done to America by steadily holdiing down wages and marching toward communism. Learn from history and avoid destroying America.

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Mar 17, 2024 14:23:33   #
martsiva
 
TJKMO wrote:
I won’t succumb to Conservatives Cancel Culture by “gitting”.
Especially, when you continue to LIE ABOUT ME.

I KNOW ABOUT ME.

YOU DON’T.

If you want to aim your HOMOPHOBIC VENOM at somebody. aim it at TRUMP.

TRUMP SAID:
“KIM AND I “FEEL IN LOVE””.
And he related that he had Kim’s Love Letters.

He must have taken those to MAL too, along with so many CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS.


Youve told us plenty about you!!You want a list???

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Mar 17, 2024 14:25:59   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
TJKMO wrote:
The House is a dysfunctional mess.
The Senate is on a razor’s edge of being able to Legislate.
SCOTUS has 6 judges in his camp. 3 of which he appointed.
The Balance of Power is on shaky grounds.

That is why I believe he will be like an Orban.
He will quickly dismantle our institutions that may challenge him…like the DOJ.
His will say the USA is such a mess an Authoritarian Strongman will be required.

His praise is always for STRONG leaders.
He has declared he will be a Dictator.
And what will stop him on Day 2.
No leader in American History has said they plan to be a Dictator for even ONE SECOND.
The House is a dysfunctional mess. br The Senate ... (show quote)


More senseless fear mongering based in ELWNJ opinions. I bet your fun at parties.

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Mar 17, 2024 14:26:52   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Then clearly you are incapable of understanding what TREASON is. Are you trying to apply for a position in Biden's thought and speech Enforcement Bureau? I understand they are going to offer remedial classes for those who are mentally deficient or unbalanced socially, so you've got a shot.


Continue being the fool. Do you have any concept of what has happened in this nation over the last 55 years? Probably not. I suggest you read some history about how multiple nations have become communist. And not one has ever become communist as a result of social programs. Nope. They all became communist because of uncontrolled capitalism. Every single one. Just like what has been happening here snce about 1969.

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Mar 17, 2024 14:27:02   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Not at all. I fear for my country, not myself. I'm nearly 80, so he will not have a lot of time to destroy America before I am gone. Trump has as much as stated he plans to end democracy. No lie at all. That would be treason. He ignores the constitution and is simply the most self serving politician in America. Greed is his watchword, and he has no morals. Unscroupulous, selfish, and cares only for himself. Those are tyhe inarguable facts. No, I am not fond of Biden. He has done too many stupid things. But he, at least, will not destroy democracy. I wish I had another reasonable choice.
Not at all. I fear for my country, not myself. I... (show quote)


Not facts at all. Unsupported opinions of a leftwing fanatic in denial of the facts.
But I wish you will, and hope you live long enough to eat crow when Trump wins and turns America to the RIGHT.

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Mar 17, 2024 14:31:00   #
Big Kahuna
 
straightUp wrote:
I love how apologists are trying to say that Trump meant an "economic bloodbath" - lol. As if anyone uses that term to describe economics. I don't remember ANYONE calling the economic crash of 2007 or the economic shutdown in 2020 a bloodbath.

A bloodbath has always been reference to extreme physical violence. We all knew what Trump was saying and these really lame excuses from those trying to run damage control only emphasizes the absurdity of his entire campaign.

Trump is maxed out... He can't win over anyone that isn't already dedicated to him. He lost the popular vote in 2016 by around 3 million votes, in a year in which a lot of Americans just didn't vote and because it turns out 3 million Americans is pretty easy for the EC to marginalize, the voters turned out in 2020 beating Trump down by 8 million votes, which is apparently just a little too much for the EC to dismiss and so Biden won.

Granted, Trump is doing well within the Republican Party right now but that's not saying much. He did better than Biden did in the primaries too but we all know that the Democratic primaries this year has been an opportunity for Democrats to protest Biden's stance on Israel. My bet is that when the general election rolls around, they will be voting for Biden just to keep Trump out.

Trump and his campaign knows he doesn't have the numbers to win a fair democratic election, so he's doing everything he can to rig the election and to intimidate the American people. Trump has a history of inciting violence, usually in off-the-cuff comments like when a protester at one of his rallies was being removed and he said "someone beat the hell out of him".

"Oh, he didn't really mean it."

It doesn't even matter if he meant it or not, it's the simple fact that he keeps doing it in dramatic contrast to every other president before him that NEVER made such comments.
I love how apologists are trying to say that Trump... (show quote)


What BLM and Antifa have done to our country can be categorized as bloodbaths. Trump was referring to bloodbaths that also occurred in communist takeovers in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba, Vietnam, and Venezuela. Those were true bloodbaths but yet your party wants to implement communism in the U.S. You demorats all appear to be terrorists and corrupt liars. Our country is an terrible shape with the demorat party in power. These are fearful times indeed.

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Mar 17, 2024 14:31:40   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
straightUp wrote:
I love how apologists are trying to say that Trump meant an "economic bloodbath" - lol. As if anyone uses that term to describe economics. I don't remember ANYONE calling the economic crash of 2007 or the economic shutdown in 2020 a bloodbath.

A bloodbath has always been reference to extreme physical violence. We all knew what Trump was saying and these really lame excuses from those trying to run damage control only emphasizes the absurdity of his entire campaign.

Trump is maxed out... He can't win over anyone that isn't already dedicated to him. He lost the popular vote in 2016 by around 3 million votes, in a year in which a lot of Americans just didn't vote and because it turns out 3 million Americans is pretty easy for the EC to marginalize, the voters turned out in 2020 beating Trump down by 8 million votes, which is apparently just a little too much for the EC to dismiss and so Biden won.

Granted, Trump is doing well within the Republican Party right now but that's not saying much. He did better than Biden did in the primaries too but we all know that the Democratic primaries this year has been an opportunity for Democrats to protest Biden's stance on Israel. My bet is that when the general election rolls around, they will be voting for Biden just to keep Trump out.

Trump and his campaign knows he doesn't have the numbers to win a fair democratic election, so he's doing everything he can to rig the election and to intimidate the American people. Trump has a history of inciting violence, usually in off-the-cuff comments like when a protester at one of his rallies was being removed and he said "someone beat the hell out of him".

"Oh, he didn't really mean it."

It doesn't even matter if he meant it or not, it's the simple fact that he keeps doing it in dramatic contrast to every other president before him that NEVER made such comments.
I love how apologists are trying to say that Trump... (show quote)


So much educated 'reasoning' and orderly 'logic' to do so little but trying to justify a steaming pile of Democrat 'rationalization'.
If only you would put that same effort into actually THINKING and seeking the TRUTH rather than trying to justify your emotional reactions based on a history of false liberal ideology.

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Mar 17, 2024 14:31:41   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
RandyBrian wrote:
More than that.......his hatred and bias render his ability to think totally in the tank. Everything is about his emotional reactions that are pre-programmed for hatred and self validation. Facts and evidence are ignored.


Not at all. The hate comes from the MAGAs who support a lying cheating greedy politician with no morals and who violates laws regularly. The hate is directed at those of us who actually want America to thrive. And based on our extensive studies and education, especially about history, You are supporting the destruiction of America's democracy.

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Mar 17, 2024 14:35:43   #
Big Kahuna
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Like Putin did for Trump? Or was that the Saudi Prince who helps trump with money and control over oil prices? Oh, by the way, tyhe world is still waiting for one single proven fact verifying the numerous unverified claims the GOP is making about the "Biden Crime Family." Or was that the Trump crime family? Or is the whole deal that the GOP plans to hold the attempted impeachment back unil a few weeks before the election and then blast unproven claims all over our TV screens? That seems about on a par with the usual morals of the GOP.
Like Putin did for Trump? Or was that the Saudi P... (show quote)


You are almost 80 and still have no morals. What a wasted life.

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Mar 17, 2024 14:38:27   #
Big Kahuna
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Then clearly you are incapable of understanding what TREASON is. Are you trying to apply for a position in Biden's thought and speech Enforcement Bureau? I understand they are going to offer remedial classes for those who are mentally deficient or unbalanced socially, so you've got a shot.


Nick is politicking for Czar of Bribem's propaganda wing of his speech Enforcement Bureau. His head is further up Bribem's butt than Mad Merrick's is.

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Mar 17, 2024 14:40:31   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Not facts at all. Unsupported opinions of a leftwing fanatic in denial of the facts.
But I wish you will, and hope you live long enough to eat crow when Trump wins and turns America to the RIGHT.


We have been to the RIGHT over most of the last 55 years. And what it has brought us is more poverty, crime, lowered standards of living for the working class, more racism, more anti anyone different, loss of a woman's autonomy opver her own body, worse health care, violating the separation of church and state in the constitution. For 55 years, our economic status of our workers has decreased due to the wealthy taking more and more of the total wealth of this nation. Wages are up in that period about 10 percent as of 2018. And the paychecks of the top 10 percent went up around 300 percent. Want to debate facts instead of ignorant rants and name calling like a 6 year old? I'll put mu IQ up against yours any time.

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Mar 17, 2024 14:41:37   #
martsiva
 
TJKMO wrote:
No.
I am not saying that.
Trump’s comments are not about any policy: good or bad.

As usual it is about his sense of Victimhood and he is PREDICTING BLOOD WILL BE SPILLED ON HIS BEHALF IF HE LOSES.

He said 1/6/21 would be “WILD” when he invited MAGA to DC on the EXACT DATE OF CERTIFICATION.
That was deliberate.


You truly DO lack comprehension skills!! He was talking about the auto industry!!

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Mar 17, 2024 14:43:26   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
TJKMO wrote:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/03/16/trump-immigrants-not-people/

Some immigrants are not People, trump stated in the same unhinged rant.
You are so naive.
Trump is correct, many of those so-called "immigrants" are subhuman cockroaches.

“Now Nobody Crosses Without Paying:” Senior Border Patrol Agents Describe Unprecedented Cartel Control at Southwest Border

December 14, 2023

WASHINGTON, D.C. — Today, House Committee on Homeland Security Chairman Mark E. Green, MD (R-TN) issued the following statement after the Committee released additional portions of transcribed interviews conducted with the U.S. Border Patrol agents responsible for the sectors along the Southwest border. In the interviews, Border Patrol leadership confirmed the unprecedented influence the criminal cartels wield at the Southwest border, detailed the numerous ways these groups take advantage of the chaos and anti-enforcement policies under Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, and described the abuses and atrocities committed by these organizations against individuals seeking to get to the Southwest border:

“In these shocking transcripts, chief patrol agents not only shed a light on the unprecedented control exercised by the criminal cartels at our Southwest border, but they also confirmed that Americans are ‘living in the theater of engagement.’ This means that the policies of Secretary Mayorkas have ceded ground along our border to these heartless criminals and have allowed their malign activities to destabilize cities and towns across the country.

“From overwhelming Border Patrol agents with mass crossings to purposefully putting the lives of migrants—including children—in danger, these cartels will stop at nothing to smuggle criminals across the border and deadly drugs into our communities, all while abusing, trafficking, and profiting off of vulnerable individuals. Secretary Mayorkas’ refusal to enforce the law and remove incentives for illegal crossings is enabling the cartels’ booming business model. This is completely unacceptable. Homeland Republicans are committed to holding Secretary Mayorkas accountable for allowing criminal cartels with no respect for human life to control our border.”


The House Committee on Homeland Security and the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability conducted interviews with eight chief patrol agents and one deputy chief patrol agent from April-September 2023 to acquire more information about operations in their sectors and how the crisis has impacted the safety and security of the United States. These interviews were part of the Committees’ ongoing investigation into the causes, costs, and consequences of the unprecedented crisis at America’s borders, and the role of Secretary Mayorkas in facilitating and maintaining this crisis.

In the second interim report as part of an ongoing investigation in Secretary Mayorkas’ handling of the crisis at the Southwest border, the Committee noted the testimony of other experienced law enforcement personnel and public officials who have described the historic levels of control now held by the criminal cartels. In February 2023, former Border Patrol Chief Rodney Scott told Congress the cartels “control the border today. And they control the border today under the Biden administration because of this mass migration to a level that they’ve never had.” Arizona Sen. Kyrsten Sinema told one local radio station in May, “The cartels are incredibly well-resourced and they’re very strategic, so they’re pushing people through different parts of the border at different times with different prices for different purposes, and they’re controlling what’s happening on the southern border, not the United States government.”

The cartels are also raking in historic profits from both drug and human smuggling, as well as human trafficking. As noted in the Committee’s report, the cartels were estimated to have made $13 billion in 2021 just off of human smuggling—and the number of individuals traveling through Mexico to the Southwest border has only increased since.

Earlier this year, Secretary Mayorkas admitted before the Senate Judiciary Committee that he was unaware of the method used by the cartels to overwhelm border agents in order to sneak aliens and drugs across the border—a tactic described by the chief patrol agents in these interviews—and he even admitted that he was unaware of their use of wristbands to keep track of the illegal aliens being smuggled and trafficked.

Despite Secretary Mayorkas’ false claims to have operational control of the Southwest border, in March 2023, then-Border Patrol Chief Raul Ortiz contradicted those statements, testifying before the Committee that DHS does not have operational control of our border, and that five of our nine Southwest border sectors are not secure.

In previous selections of the transcripts released by the Committee, these senior agents also describe how the numbers of illegal aliens crossing the border is truly historic, how mass release of illegal aliens function as a pull factor, and the recent phenomenon of illegal aliens turning themselves in to Border Patrol agents rather than evading arrest because they expect to be released.


Homeland Majority Releases Second Interim Report on How Secretary Mayorkas’ Open-Border Policies Have Empowered Cartels and Undermined National Security

“The cartels’ operations at the border and in communities across the country have meant more crime, more families ripped apart by addiction, and more vulnerable people exploited and abused.”

WASHINGTON, D.C. — Today, the House Committee on Homeland Security Majority, led by Chairman Mark E. Green, MD (R-TN), released its interim report on the second phase of the Committee’s comprehensive oversight investigation into the crisis at the Southwest border and Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas’ dereliction of duty in handling the crisis. This report examines how cartels in Mexico have seized unprecedented control at the Southwest border to smuggle illegal aliens, criminals, suspected terrorists, and deadly fentanyl and other drugs into the United States, taking advantage of Mayorkas and President Joe Biden’s reckless open-border policies and their refusal to enforce immigration laws passed by Congress.

“For more than two years, the chaos at the Southwest border caused by President Biden and Secretary Mayorkas’ reckless open-borders policies have endangered the lives and livelihoods of Americans across this country while also threatening our homeland security,” Chairman Green said. “This damning report emphasizes how Secretary Mayorkas’ refusal to enforce the laws passed by Congress have given cartels a historic business opportunity, allowing them to rake in billions of dollars from historic levels of human smuggling and trafficking, as well as the trafficking of deadly drugs like fentanyl into our communities. It’s time to stop subsidizing cartel crime. This secretary’s dereliction of duty is on full display in the cartels’ unprecedented control of the Southwest border and operations inside the United States. Homeland Republicans will keep working until we provide answers and accountability on behalf of the American people.”

The report documents how the Biden-Mayorkas policies have encouraged millions of illegal aliens to make the journey to the Southwest border, representing a historic business opportunity for the cartels, who control the land routes to the border and demand payment in order to cross into the United States. Thousands of agents have been pulled off the border-security mission to process, transport, and release these illegal aliens into the country.

The cartels continue to use mass groups of illegal aliens to overwhelm Border Patrol agents in one location, and as those agents are responding, flood other groups of aliens, as well as narcotics, through the zones agents have vacated. This tactic was confirmed to Committee staff by multiple Border Patrol agents in transcribed interviews throughout the spring and summer.

The report also documents how transnational gangs like MS-13 are taking advantage of Mayorkas’ policies, the historic number of individuals on the terror watchlist that have been apprehended illegally crossing the Southwest border on Mayorkas’ watch, the release of potential national security threats into the United States by overworked law enforcement, and the shifting of federal law enforcement from their regular duties to assisting with the crisis at the Southwest border.

In the report, the Committee states, “Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas’ open-borders policies have empowered and emboldened some of the most vicious, ruthless, and savage individuals and groups in the world. Whether it is transnational criminal organizations (TCOs) like the cartels and human smuggling organizations in the Western Hemisphere, potential national security threats from countries who sponsor terrorism, or those coming from major state adversaries like China and Russia, the wide-open Southwest border has given America’s enemies all over the globe an opportunity to infiltrate the homeland—an opportunity too good to pass up.”

To examine cartel control of the Southwest border, the Committee held a full Committee hearing in July 2023, in which Members received confirmation that Biden and Mayorkas’ reckless open-border policies, such as ending ‘Remain in Mexico,’ refusing to finish the border wall system, implementing mass catch and release, and releasing millions of illegal aliens into the country on parole rather than detaining or removing them, have facilitated the business model of cartels and other transnational criminal groups operating at the Southwest border and increasingly throughout American communities.

In July, the Homeland Security Subcommittee on Border Security and Enforcement, led by Chairman Clay Higgins (R-LA), held a hearing with Biden administration witnesses to examine the role of TCOs, particularly Mexican drug cartels, in trafficking illicit fentanyl into the United States. In the hearing, witnesses confirmed that TCOs in Mexico are successfully smuggling mass quantities of deadly, illicit fentanyl past Border Patrol agents and CBP officers and into the United States. Not only are cartels smuggling on land, but they are now trafficking fentanyl and other drugs using Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS), or drones, to do so.

In August, Chairman Green sent a letter to Mayorkas, in which he demanded answers on possible failures in intra-agency intelligence sharing following the secretary’s admission before the Senate Judiciary Committee that he was unaware of cartels’ use of wristbands to track those being smuggled across the Southwest border. The letter requested any communications, intelligence products, briefings, and media reports on the topic shared internally.

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