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Trump has decided cutting Social Security and Medicare isn't such a great idea
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Mar 15, 2024 23:57:42   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Digger47 wrote:
The good news is that I am now cancer free!!!


That is good news. Congratulations. Been there. Done that.

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Mar 16, 2024 00:01:54   #
Knightlady
 
Digger47 wrote:
The good news is that I am now cancer free!!!


I am soooooo happy for you!

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Mar 16, 2024 00:24:22   #
Digger47
 
Thanks you guys and gals! The point I am trying to make is we need to convince our government that social security and Medicare need to protected like other retirement programs are.

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Mar 16, 2024 07:55:18   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Digger47 wrote:
Thanks you guys and gals! The point I am trying to make is we need to convince our government that social security and Medicare need to protected like other retirement programs are.


They know this. The problem is simple math. There is a higher ratio of those receiving benefits compared to those putting in than there was in the past. they should grandfather those in who wish for the old social security and give options to younger workers.

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Mar 16, 2024 09:15:07   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
son of witless wrote:
Whether it is Trump or some other President. The dirty little secret that Democrats are lying about is this. Social Security and Medicare will be cut. There is no way around that. You of course know I am right. You simply refuse to admit it.


You are so negative and judgemental---

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Mar 16, 2024 09:21:59   #
son of witless
 
RascalRiley wrote:
A lot is going to be cut.
We have lived beyond our means for far too long.


WHAT ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Are you admitting that Donald J. Trump has been right all along ???????????????????????????????????????????

Well shazzam !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mar 16, 2024 09:52:53   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
JFlorio wrote:
If anyones interested I have submitted a plan to my local congressman. Based on age.


that would be interesting to read

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Mar 16, 2024 10:10:56   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
jimpack123 wrote:
that would be interesting to read


I will give the short version.
1) Anyone who wants to stay in the present system may
2) For wage earners 20 yrs old to 30 you can put in an investment portfolio managed much like an IRA. You choose the custodian. Must be a fiduciary and cannot access money until age 62. (Same percentages as present for full retirement age, with same deductions for taking retirement early). The portfolio can be up to 60% Equities (Stocks) and 40% fixed or safe. Such as treasuries, Fixed annuities, and AAA rated bonds.
3) Wage earners from 30 to 40. Same investments; 50% Equities, 50% fixed
4) Wage earners from 40 to 50. Same investments; 40% Equities, 60% fixed
5) Wage earners from 50 to 60. Same investments; 30% Equities, 70% Fixed.
More to it, but that's an outline. Statistics prove this would generate much more retirement money in the future per individual.

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Mar 16, 2024 10:27:46   #
XXX Loc: Somewhere north of the Mason-Dixon
 
JFlorio wrote:
I will give the short version.
1) Anyone who wants to stay in the present system may
2) For wage earners 20 yrs old to 30 you can put in an investment portfolio managed much like an IRA. You choose the custodian. Must be a fiduciary and cannot access money until age 62. (Same percentages as present for full retirement age, with same deductions for taking retirement early). The portfolio can be up to 60% Equities (Stocks) and 40% fixed or safe. Such as treasuries, Fixed annuities, and AAA rated bonds.
3) Wage earners from 30 to 40. Same investments; 50% Equities, 50% fixed
4) Wage earners from 40 to 50. Same investments; 40% Equities, 60% fixed
5) Wage earners from 50 to 60. Same investments; 30% Equities, 70% Fixed.
More to it, but that's an outline. Statistics prove this would generate much more retirement money in the future per individual.
I will give the short version. br 1) Anyone who w... (show quote)


That actually sounds good.

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Mar 16, 2024 10:32:29   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
XXX wrote:
That actually sounds good.



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Mar 16, 2024 10:41:19   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
JFlorio wrote:
I will give the short version.
1) Anyone who wants to stay in the present system may
2) For wage earners 20 yrs old to 30 you can put in an investment portfolio managed much like an IRA. You choose the custodian. Must be a fiduciary and cannot access money until age 62. (Same percentages as present for full retirement age, with same deductions for taking retirement early). The portfolio can be up to 60% Equities (Stocks) and 40% fixed or safe. Such as treasuries, Fixed annuities, and AAA rated bonds.
3) Wage earners from 30 to 40. Same investments; 50% Equities, 50% fixed
4) Wage earners from 40 to 50. Same investments; 40% Equities, 60% fixed
5) Wage earners from 50 to 60. Same investments; 30% Equities, 70% Fixed.
More to it, but that's an outline. Statistics prove this would generate much more retirement money in the future per individual.
I will give the short version. br 1) Anyone who w... (show quote)


This sounds good as you are leaving it alone for the ones who over 60, but what about people who are disabled at a young age? how would you protect them with his version of Social Security?
This sounds similar to Bush's plan privatize Social Security

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Mar 16, 2024 10:50:47   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
jimpack123 wrote:
This sounds good as you are leaving it alone for the ones who over 60, but what about people who are disabled at a young age? how would you protect them with his version of Social Security?
This sounds similar to Bush's plan privatize Social Security


Would not change social security disability. Remember those same people are getting disability now and not paying in.

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Mar 16, 2024 10:51:30   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
jimpack123 wrote:
This sounds good as you are leaving it alone for the ones who over 60, but what about people who are disabled at a young age? how would you protect them with his version of Social Security?
This sounds similar to Bush's plan privatize Social Security


Read it again. I’m leaving it alone for anyone who wants to stay in the old system.

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Mar 16, 2024 12:54:00   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
JFlorio wrote:
Read it again. I’m leaving it alone for anyone who wants to stay in the old system.


I would still raise the income level to stop paying into Social Security to 400,000, other than that I think that it would be a good idea

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Mar 16, 2024 13:01:08   #
martsiva
 
Digger47 wrote:
The good news is that I am now cancer free!!!


How absolutely wonderful for you!!

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