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Mar 15, 2024 17:38:26   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Rose42 wrote:

Yes its big enough and they could have overthrown the government if they chose to on Jan 6th.

LOL - that's hilarious. Trump's cult is less then 24% of those who vote and even a smaller percentage of the total number of people who live here. Most of the people who voted for Trump really don't like him but felt it was important to vote against the other candidate.

Rose42 wrote:

The group on that day was a bunch of dolts who really had no idea what they were doing. A lot of highly skilled vets back him

Not all "highly skilled vets" support Trump. Besides, the most that can be achieved with "highly skilled vets" is terrorism. They would be utterly useless in any effort to actually take over the government. You people watch too many movies.

Rose42 wrote:

No one really knows if he has what it takes.

Oh, I think we know.

Rose42 wrote:

I don’t think its because he can’t handle democracy

I don't think you understood my point about that... I wasn't saying he can't take over the government because he can't handle democracy. I was saying his authoritarian tendencies are because he can't handle democracy.

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Mar 15, 2024 17:38:35   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
straightUp wrote:
First of all his huge cult is too small to have much power in a democracy. It may have been enough to get him elected in an electoral system where Americans are not represented equally, but it's not enough to give him the authoritarian power he would need to truly be a dictator.

Secondly, Trump simply doesn't have what it takes. As I explained earlier, it's not that Trump wants to be a dictator it's that he can't handle democracy. So every time he is confronted with with opposition from multiple parties he shies away from negotiating a consensus and looks for a way to arrive at decisions without considering opposing views.

This is why people see him as an authoritarian. It's not actually a sign of strength but a sign of weakness.
First of all his huge cult is too small to have mu... (show quote)


“First of all his huge cult is too small to have much power”
You are underestimating the power of, even though a minority, of a cohesive block.

“Secondly, Trump simply doesn't have what it takes.”
He is the most charismatic politician in America today. Even those afraid recognize that.

“see him as an authoritarian”
He does use people.

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Mar 15, 2024 17:40:57   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
straightUp wrote:
As I mentioned earlier in this thread... I present arguments with logical reasoning and substance. A lot of people here either don't have the mental capacity to understand it or they just don't want to. Instead they prefer to fill up even more bandwidth with endless streams of cheap insults and memes.


Logic.
Reasoning.
Substance.
Which in your view, leads to a conclusion that an Dementia riddled elderly man who can not remember where he is, or answer what his favorite ice cream is without a teleprompter, and is handled by an unknown secret committee, will make a better presidential choice than Donald Trump.
Your version of 'critical thinking" is not for me. It is too similar to insanity.

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Mar 15, 2024 17:43:03   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Logic.
Reasoning.
Substance.
Which in your view, leads to a conclusion that an Dementia riddled elderly man who can not remember where he is, or answer what his favorite ice cream is without a teleprompter, and is handled by an unknown secret committee, will make a better presidential choice than Donald Trump.
Your version of 'critical thinking" is not for me. It is too similar to insanity.


I honestly don't think you know what critical thinking is.

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Mar 15, 2024 17:48:57   #
Knightlady
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Many of us on the right, on OPP, believe that Liberal Lilly, Abby Hoffman, Kitten Courageous, and a few other names were all one in the same person, just using new IDs because no one listened to her old ones any more.
She was characterized by supposedly being raised by Christian Missionaries (Catholic) that abused her both physically and emotionally, attended a Catholic college, know ALLLLLL about Christians, and hated them, a victim of mental disease, incredibly smart (supposedly) and a number of other things. She spoke about like TJ does.
I reached out to Kitten before I realized her true identity, and offered my help and friendship. Unfortunately, her concept of 'friendship' required me to cover her back no matter how ugly and offensive she talked. I was accused of betayal of the worse kind.
Many of us on the right, on OPP, believe that Libe... (show quote)


That's about it

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Mar 15, 2024 17:55:02   #
Rose42
 
straightUp wrote:
I don't think you understood my point about that... I wasn't saying he can't take over the government because he can't handle democracy. I was saying his authoritarian tendencies are because he can't handle democracy.


You really know nothing about vets. That doesn’t come from movies. It really doesn’t take as many as you think to get something done.

I understand your points just fine.

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Mar 15, 2024 18:06:38   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
RandyBrian wrote:
You think we are doing better being governed by a dementia addled puppet (in every way) being guided by a secret unknown committee?
Okay.


"dimension addled" with a "photographic memory?"
🧐
Suuuuuuure.

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Mar 15, 2024 18:12:44   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
youngwilliam wrote:
Please don't equate yourself to the rest of civilized people in the world. Loony lefties are anathema to values of civilized countries and people all over the world.


Do you ever try reading a newspaper or need site in the UK? Or Europe? It might prove enlightening.

I'm sure now what I will hear from all the DJ supporters is "We don't live in Europe, so it doesn't matter and why are you bringing it up?"

It matters because the world is a lot smaller than it used to be. It's better to have someone other heads if state respect than one they laugh at.

And no, they do NOT laugh at Joe Biden. He is more respected than DJ will ever be.

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Mar 15, 2024 18:19:23   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
youngwilliam wrote:
I just skip it. Kinda like the broken record that is you.
Saves a lot of time not reading blatherskite.


...and saves your "mental bandwidth"

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Mar 15, 2024 18:20:15   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
straightUp wrote:
As I mentioned earlier in this thread... I present arguments with logical reasoning and substance. A lot of people here either don't have the mental capacity to understand it or they just don't want to. Instead they prefer to fill up even more bandwidth with endless streams of cheap insults and memes.


You are a challenge to the putty-in-trump's-hands crowd.

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Mar 15, 2024 18:21:47   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
Knightlady wrote:
But events follow the policies put in place by the administration which is not an event. But also, don't events classify sanity or not?

I looked it up quickly ( did not spend much time) and found that you are correct so far on how many left Trumps administration and Bidens. I personally don't know how many left because they hate Trump or for other reasons. Same with Biden and it would take up too much time to look at each administration, names of people who've left and why.

I also think alot more left Bidens administration than you realize. He's pretty close to Trump.
But events follow the policies put in place by the... (show quote)


Think as you like. Truth can be difficult.

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Mar 15, 2024 18:47:25   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
youngwilliam wrote:
And liars gotta lie.

How much have you donated to the grifter in chief, Billy?
If you can be truthful about it...

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Mar 15, 2024 18:50:39   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
straightUp wrote:
I call the accusation that all these things are the fault of a president a perfect example of bat-shit insanity.

We are essentially a free-market economy... presidents do not control inflation, or prices. As for the debt that didn't happen over night, it's been climbing for several administrations, including the last one. The president doesn't control Putin or Netanyahu either so, you can't blame him for the wars and crime is increasing for numerous reasons that have more to do with the desperation of the American people after 40 years of Republican priorities that continue to starve our support systems.

But I get it... when people decide to hate a president and can't really provide solid reasons for it, they basically just blame him for everything.
I call the accusation that all these things are th... (show quote)


I agree, but the MAGAt clan is just going to try to say that the last part is no different than what we do re DJ... because of what we see in him that they cannot.

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Mar 15, 2024 18:59:11   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
straightUp wrote:
As I mentioned earlier in this thread... I present arguments with logical reasoning and substance. A lot of people here either don't have the mental capacity to understand it or they just don't want to. Instead they prefer to fill up even more bandwidth with endless streams of cheap insults and memes.


Young Billy apparently prefers the cartoons and insults . Probably makes him feel as though he is at a DJs rally without having to pay for the bus ticket.

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Mar 15, 2024 19:37:02   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Logic.
Reasoning.
Substance.
Which in your view, leads to a conclusion that an Dementia riddled elderly man who can not remember where he is, or answer what his favorite ice cream is without a teleprompter, and is handled by an unknown secret committee, will make a better presidential choice than Donald Trump.
Your version of 'critical thinking" is not for me. It is too similar to insanity.


“Your version of 'critical thinking" is not for me. It is too similar to insanity”

You do know that narcissists are insane. That you admire Trump, a narcissist, that kind of negates your critical thinking observation.

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