American Scene

So the fools at fox and maga politicians soil themselves on helping college educated students with their

tuition costs, and while these same conservatives hate and demean public education, they demand tax

dollars to send their off spring to 'private and christian' schools, and now they demand tax dollars for

home schooling.

Lily

It’s not my responsibility to pay off debt for an irresponsible person.

If you had a brain, you’d find the people most likely to use vouchers are low income. It’s been shown all the time. You’re just to dumb to research it.

Gatsby

That post is too STUPID to be legal.

liberalhunter Loc: Your mom's house

BIRDMAN

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manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.

American Scene, (looking through dirty glasses)

Such a grand title for a limited-scope text. The subject should range over many matters of keen interest to people that want a better country. Off-hand here are at least some issues that should be tackled, and solved real soon!
1. High School graduates that cannot read or write adequately.
2. Graduates that have been brainwashed since the lower schools on liberal, progressive thought to the exclusion of subjects they really needed to master.
3. Curricula that are deficient of serious classical subjects in favor of ridiculous studies of a social or racial bent with no worth in the workplace.
4. Curricula that 'slide through' very important subjects such as mathematics, science, factual American history, Civics, including Government and the Constitution, Philosophy, and even the vocational trades that are key for some.
5. The utter bias in the soft-courses world towards liberalism. Literature is a soft course. Sociology is a soft course. The courses I listed above, especially in 4. are not soft at all, they require real brainwork, not just memorization and regurgitation.
6. Ditch the DE, and the teacher's unions, and rely upon the states to handle education of their students.

I could go on and on, but it is your subject you introduced. Why don't you cover it? Any answers?

RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit

Said she with zero proof.

RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit

1 million seconds = 11.5 days
1 billion seconds = 31.5 years
1 trillion seconds = 31,710 years.

Lily

Go look at Holder vs Louisiana is the oldest one. Turned out the issue was blacks leaving was making the schools to white.

It doesn’t take much to find a lot of minorities using vouchers if they can even they know the public schools suck rotten eggs and smell as bad.

PeterS

If you researched them a voucher is worth nothing unless the school wants your child to attend...school choice goes both ways...and it typically only covers part of the tuition so you are responsible for the rest, plus transportation, supplies, and meals. That eliminates low-income and most middle-income students too. Here in Texas Gov Abbott has been trying to get them passed and can't do it even with Republicans voting for them. This last year he held three special sessions and still couldn't get it accomplished.

As for other people's debt, when I went to college tuition was $225 a semester which was covered by a Pell Grant and with other student aid I managed to leave college with zero debt. Those days are long gone though and even with grants students are looking at 10's of thousands of dollars a year. They aren't going to cover that working part-time at minimum wage. So we either make our colleges only for the wealthy elite or we work out something with how college is finance because the other option of simply not going to school would destroy our economy. But I guess that's not your responsibility either.

BIRDMAN

Don’t we have community colleges

LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago

Damn right. Why would anyone be ignorant enough to think that is wrong. Oh, wait. The As man again

Troll alert

David L Loc: Central Wisconsin

Here's a novel plan. Do something about the universities that are price gouging. Biden was worried about candy bars and chips being over priced, how about "education?"

PeterS

Sure, for the first two years then it's going to cost 10's of thousands of dollars to finish your degree. What we haven't talked about is back when it cost $225 a semester state and federal governments picked up 90% of the cost. That changed under Reagan, then the conservative congress of the 90's, then Bush, and the conservative congress under Obama. And here's something that we haven't mentioned but the productivity of our economy is 100% dependent on the education of our employees so the more you cons try to strangle education the more you are trying to strangle our economy. Oh, and here's something I haven't mentioned but once my business was established I repaid in one quarter my Pell Grants, work-study, and everything else that government invested in me. A college education isn't a sunk cost but is repaid in higher incomes, higher taxes, and higher productivity than if no investment was made.

Snoopy

American:

You sign a contract: mortgage for a house OR take a student tuition loan. Both are legal contracts with NO STATED form to be forgiven!

Parents forego a new car, home improvement or vacation trips to pay for college tuition. How fair is loan forgiveness to these folks?

Snoopy