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Mar 11, 2024 17:40:49   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
The progressive left will never, ever understand what real Americans want from their government, because real Americans just want to be left alone by their government. They think we can be bought, they think we can be manipulated into jealousy which will override our natural instincts. They are wrong. The games that work on their weak-minded coastal voters doesn’t work in “flyover” country, and it never will.

You hear it all the time: Why are these people “voting against their interests?” The vapid husks of humans on MSNBC ask that regularly. They think they can buy votes of Midwesterners and others in the middle of the country. They can’t.

I grew up in northeast Ohio in a lower-middle class family – 6 of us in a house with no basement, three small bedrooms with 1½ bathrooms – and I have zero memory of being anything but happy. Other people had more, but to the extent we were unaware of what we didn’t have, we didn’t care.

There was no reality TV or social media seemingly existing to make everyone envious of other people, which may well have been a factor. But the biggest factor was we had two parents who loved us and each other, who weren’t going to suffer us whining about what we didn’t have. It wasn’t really an issue – our summer vacations driven to Washinton DC in a 1955 Ford with a hole in the rear floor crowded in with 6 people, Fairyland Forest and Conneaut Lake Park in western Pennsylvania or Chautauqua Lake in New York were a blast, chosen, we thought, for that reason. I came to find out later they were chosen because they didn’t cost much, we made it a blast.

If you sit around and obsess on what you don’t have you are going to lead a miserable life. While happiness is not guaranteed, appreciating what you do have will go a long way toward making you happy.

Most middle-class Americans simply want to make enough to cover their bills and have some left over to have fun with family and friends on the weekends. We don’t need mansions or Ferraris, we’re pretty content. We’d take them, don’t get me wrong, I’m not about to rip up a winning lottery ticket, but that’s not a goal that missing that’s going to ruin my life.

When leftists ask “What’s the matter with Kansas?” or lie about “White Rural Rage,” they’re exposing just how polluted their minds are. They think we can be bought, and don’t understand why we are lining up for the government cheese.

There’s a very simple reason, aside from our desire to simply be left alone by the government: We see what their policies have done to their voters.

In Ohio, that house I grew up in was within 20 miles outside the city limits for Cleveland, but I remember going into the belly of the city with my father as a child. Everyone saw what slavish loyalty to voting for Democrats created – once one of the leading economic engines of the country, the city is a disaster. The downtown area has improved a lot in recent years, but the neighborhoods where people actually live are depressed areas of economic destruction.

Democrats did that. Their policies did that.

The same pot of gold at the end of the rainbow Democrats promised voters in Chicago, Detroit, St. Louis, Philadelphia, etc., has been promised to everyone else, but it’s poison. We see it, we know it.

The only major city not a cesspool of progressive poison is New York, but that’s only because things had gotten so bad they elected a Republican who turned it around. Democrats are in the process of undoing all the good Rudy Giuliani did because he’d made the city so good it gave the left cover to lie again.

We aren’t interested. Like I said, there’s nothing government can offer that will make good people turn against ourselves. That is what is in “our interests,” not “free” handouts and making sure we can suckle up to the government teat.

Paul Krugman and his rich friends deserve your hatred, not because they don’t get this, but because they don’t care. They want to make everyone dependent on government so they can control us. We aren’t interested, which makes his ilk hate us all the more. Good. They’re scum. If people like that don’t hate you, you’re doing it wrong. If they don’t fear you – your political power and everything else – you’re doing that wrong too.

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Mar 11, 2024 17:56:19   #
Bruce123
 
I agree a great post.

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Mar 11, 2024 18:31:14   #
PeterS
 
Parky60 wrote:
The progressive left will never, ever understand what real Americans want from their government, because real Americans just want to be left alone by their government. They think we can be bought, they think we can be manipulated into jealousy which will override our natural instincts. They are wrong. The games that work on their weak-minded coastal voters doesn’t work in “flyover” country, and it never will.

You hear it all the time: Why are these people “voting against their interests?” The vapid husks of humans on MSNBC ask that regularly. They think they can buy votes of Midwesterners and others in the middle of the country. They can’t.

I grew up in northeast Ohio in a lower-middle class family – 6 of us in a house with no basement, three small bedrooms with 1½ bathrooms – and I have zero memory of being anything but happy. Other people had more, but to the extent we were unaware of what we didn’t have, we didn’t care.

There was no reality TV or social media seemingly existing to make everyone envious of other people, which may well have been a factor. But the biggest factor was we had two parents who loved us and each other, who weren’t going to suffer us whining about what we didn’t have. It wasn’t really an issue – our summer vacations driven to Washinton DC in a 1955 Ford with a hole in the rear floor crowded in with 6 people, Fairyland Forest and Conneaut Lake Park in western Pennsylvania or Chautauqua Lake in New York were a blast, chosen, we thought, for that reason. I came to find out later they were chosen because they didn’t cost much, we made it a blast.

If you sit around and obsess on what you don’t have you are going to lead a miserable life. While happiness is not guaranteed, appreciating what you do have will go a long way toward making you happy.

Most middle-class Americans simply want to make enough to cover their bills and have some left over to have fun with family and friends on the weekends. We don’t need mansions or Ferraris, we’re pretty content. We’d take them, don’t get me wrong, I’m not about to rip up a winning lottery ticket, but that’s not a goal that missing that’s going to ruin my life.

When leftists ask “What’s the matter with Kansas?” or lie about “White Rural Rage,” they’re exposing just how polluted their minds are. They think we can be bought, and don’t understand why we are lining up for the government cheese.

There’s a very simple reason, aside from our desire to simply be left alone by the government: We see what their policies have done to their voters.

In Ohio, that house I grew up in was within 20 miles outside the city limits for Cleveland, but I remember going into the belly of the city with my father as a child. Everyone saw what slavish loyalty to voting for Democrats created – once one of the leading economic engines of the country, the city is a disaster. The downtown area has improved a lot in recent years, but the neighborhoods where people actually live are depressed areas of economic destruction.

Democrats did that. Their policies did that.

The same pot of gold at the end of the rainbow Democrats promised voters in Chicago, Detroit, St. Louis, Philadelphia, etc., has been promised to everyone else, but it’s poison. We see it, we know it.

The only major city not a cesspool of progressive poison is New York, but that’s only because things had gotten so bad they elected a Republican who turned it around. Democrats are in the process of undoing all the good Rudy Giuliani did because he’d made the city so good it gave the left cover to lie again.

We aren’t interested. Like I said, there’s nothing government can offer that will make good people turn against ourselves. That is what is in “our interests,” not “free” handouts and making sure we can suckle up to the government teat.

Paul Krugman and his rich friends deserve your hatred, not because they don’t get this, but because they don’t care. They want to make everyone dependent on government so they can control us. We aren’t interested, which makes his ilk hate us all the more. Good. They’re scum. If people like that don’t hate you, you’re doing it wrong. If they don’t fear you – your political power and everything else – you’re doing that wrong too.
The progressive left will never, ever understand w... (show quote)


I went to college with state grants, PELL grants, work-study, and any other grant or scholarship I could find.

Once my business was established I paid more in taxes in a single quarter than all the grants and aid provided by the government. Do I feel the government bought me, nope. And say we go "FULL COMMIE" and have healthcare and make all state schools free up through the first two years of college or trade school free for the participant but paid for by taxes? Why is that a horror?

As for being dependent on the government using government benefits during times of need isn't dependency. Rush Limbaugh once went on unemployment. He managed to navigate his government dependence quite well. My first business loan was backed by the government and I came out just fine. Whatever horrors about government dependency you may have, exists in your mind and no place else. And do people become dependent on the government? Sure. But there are far more people who benefit from the government than become dependent. Plus, didn't you cons fix welfare dependency during the 90's? No more freeloaders? So what's the problem???

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Mar 11, 2024 18:49:41   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
PeterS wrote:
... Once my business was established I paid more in taxes in a single quarter than all the grants and aid provided by the government...

So, you're expecting me to believe that you paid hundreds of millions, if not billions in taxes EVERY THREE MONTHS... liar!

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Mar 11, 2024 18:50:14   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Bruce123 wrote:
I agree a great post.


ditto

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Mar 11, 2024 19:00:35   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
PeterS wrote:
... there are far more people who benefit from the government than become dependent...

Upwards of 15 percent of our citizens are already dependent on the government... and you want more?

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Mar 11, 2024 19:03:54   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
When I was a lad I started Life in a small house that was the foreman's cabin on the cattle ranch where my dad worked . My first bed was a dresser drawer in that little cabin. My first memories were of standing around a branding iron fire roasting rocky mountain oysters thrust onto a piece of wire . My dad bought a brand new 1955 Pontiac and I still remember that car . When I got a little older my idea of a good time was going fishing in the streams and irrigation ditches where we lived . The water there was so cold it hurt your teeth to drink it--- crystal clear and full of trout . For a thrill in the evenings we would throw rocks up in the air and watch bats follow them almost all the way to the ground . --Try it-- I had a good time with it . We didn't eat in restaurants mainly because my grandma was the best cook around and that was an undisputed fact . There were a few kids around who lived on welfare and we envied them because they got the best peanut butter around . I wish I could get some welfare peanut butter today . Any way I never got rich and I never asked any body for nothing I couldn't get on my own . I have owned a few homes and the one we live in now is paid for because I worked hard to make sure it was . My vehicles are old but tip top with new tires to boot . My cupboards are full and so is my freezer . I have guns in a safe and a good dog . I even have a college education that I paid for cutting firewood . I must have done something right because I am happy with what I have .

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Mar 11, 2024 19:10:27   #
WEBCO
 
PeterS wrote:
I went to college with state grants, PELL grants, work-study, and any other grant or scholarship I could find.

Once my business was established I paid more in taxes in a single quarter than all the grants and aid provided by the government. Do I feel the government bought me, nope. And say we go "FULL COMMIE" and have healthcare and make all state schools free up through the first two years of college or trade school free for the participant but paid for by taxes? Why is that a horror?

As for being dependent on the government using government benefits during times of need isn't dependency. Rush Limbaugh once went on unemployment. He managed to navigate his government dependence quite well. My first business loan was backed by the government and I came out just fine. Whatever horrors about government dependency you may have, exists in your mind and no place else. And do people become dependent on the government? Sure. But there are far more people who benefit from the government than become dependent. Plus, didn't you cons fix welfare dependency during the 90's? No more freeloaders? So what's the problem???
I went to college with state grants, PELL grants, ... (show quote)


You seriously ask what the horror of going full communist is...WOW

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Mar 11, 2024 19:12:48   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
... I must have done something right because I am happy with what I have .

[Paul said:] I rejoiced greatly in the Lord that at last you renewed your concern for me. Indeed, you were concerned, but you had no opportunity to show it. I am not saying this because I am in need, for I have learned to be content whatever the circumstances. I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want. I can do all this through him who gives me strength. Philippians 4:10-13

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Mar 11, 2024 19:15:03   #
WEBCO
 
Parky60 wrote:
So, you're expecting me to believe that you paid hundreds of millions, if not billions in taxes EVERY THREE MONTHS... liar!


I believe he was referring to the Pell grants and government loans that he received cost.

Somehow he forgets that those are still available and that Biden is currently forgiving $billions upon billions of student loan debt. Unconstitutional as it is. I wonder why he's okay with paying off his loans and also okay with others not doing the same

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Mar 11, 2024 19:21:20   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Parky60 wrote:
[Paul said:] I rejoiced greatly in the Lord that at last you renewed your concern for me. Indeed, you were concerned, but you had no opportunity to show it. I am not saying this because I am in need, for I have learned to be content whatever the circumstances. I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want. I can do all this through him who gives me strength. Philippians 4:10-13
i Paul said: I rejoiced greatly in the Lord tha... (show quote)


Our God is so wonderful and I am truly grateful

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Mar 12, 2024 02:26:53   #
WEBCO
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Our God is so wonderful and I am truly grateful
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True happiness comes from wanting what you have.

I hope your wife is doing better. She is in our prayers

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Mar 12, 2024 03:04:53   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
WEBCO wrote:
True happiness comes from wanting what you have.

I hope your wife is doing better. She is in our prayers


Thanks for praying for my wife . She is terminal. No hope for recovery . She gets a little worse each day . Still she tries to be upbeat . She has made peace with her fate .

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Mar 12, 2024 03:16:20   #
WEBCO
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Thanks for praying for my wife . She is terminal. No hope for recovery . She gets a little worse each day . Still she tries to be upbeat . She has made peace with her fate .


I'm sorry. We will pray to lesson her pain

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Mar 12, 2024 05:36:06   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
WEBCO wrote:
I'm sorry. We will pray to lesson her pain


Thank you it all helps . there are times when she hurts so bad she has thought about over dosing herself . She won't but the pain can get that bad at times .

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