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Feb 24, 2024 15:17:01   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
My posts regarding religion are merely written with the same degree of brotherly love Their comments exhibit. I reply in kind with verified facts and truth. Curse me and I will curse you back.


The word filial (including brotherly love) comes from the Latin, meaning “son.” A child, for example, who knows he is loved by his father obeys him because he doesn't want to disappoint him or let him down. It is a respectful fear, one that seeks to honor the one feared. Since you do not know the Father how can you make any claim to love? Sincere genuine Love cares for and nutures the soul of a beloved. As a father did you nuture any of your familie's souls? Since you and your family deny the existence of a soul, deny the existence of God, deny free will, construct your own ideas of right and wrong, how the bloody hell can you make a claim to anything called love?

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Feb 24, 2024 15:25:13   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
EmilyD wrote:
You sound like you are desperate to convince everybody that your beliefs are the right ones and everyone else's are wrong.

And you sound angry at those of us who do have faith. Why are you so angry with us? Is it because there are so many of us in the world? Is that what's bothering you - you see Christians everywhere and it drives you to this obvious level of hatred for us?

Do you hiss at Christian Churches when you drive by them?

The anger at us Christians in your posts doesn't match the peace you say you are at with the lifestyle you have chosen. I have to wonder why that is.

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My anger is not at Christians except when Christians try to force their beliefs on others. My anger is directly targeted at religions, not the parishioners. That is because the religions, not the parishioners, are the long running scams that control others and take their money. Not to mention brainwashing children to guarantee a continuing flock of sheep into the future. Religions work to guarantee long term survival of an organization that furthers ignorance and control of the flock. I consider that to be a very negative impact on the continued scientific learning of reality. We athiests have a strong, very healthy relationship with reality.

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Feb 24, 2024 16:21:40   #
EmilyD
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
My anger is not at Christians except when Christians try to force their beliefs on others. My anger is directly targeted at religions, not the parishioners. That is because the religions, not the parishioners, are the long running scams that control others and take their money. Not to mention brainwashing children to guarantee a continuing flock of sheep into the future. Religions work to guarantee long term survival of an organization that furthers ignorance and control of the flock. I consider that to be a very negative impact on the continued scientific learning of reality. We athiests have a strong, very healthy relationship with reality.
My anger is not at Christians except when Christia... (show quote)

You find the need to respond to one of my posts three times....and you mention Christians an awful lot in your rants against "religions"!

You use the excuse that you are angry...and not at parishioners, but at an inanimate subject: Religion. And while claiming that, you amazingly follow it with a rant about those very parishioners who operate those religions. And from what you have been posting here, I believe those "parishioners" you mention are really Christians: The true object of your anger and hatred!

It's not "religion" that you are complaining is brainwashing children. It's religious people (Christians?) you are berating with these kinds of comments of yours. The same thing is true in your next complaint about "religions" guaranteeing long-term survival of their congregations. The "religion" is not doing that, it is the people who run the religion. And the "ultimate" person you are angry at....the One you think is responsible for it all, is God. And you hate Him the most of all!

Its not Christians who have put aside an entire month to parade down the streets half naked, acting lewdly and throwing condoms to the crowds. We don't dress up like female clowns and go to the school libraries to read to young children. We don't take a cake-baker to the Supreme Court because they won't bake a cake celebrating something that goes against their core beliefs! You cannot talk about only Christians forcing their beliefs on you when this kind of thing is happening that we Christians are forced to see and hear about. What you always forget is it is a two-way street. If YOU are feeling oppressed by Christians professing their faith to God, we Christians feel oppressed by you leftists professing your UNfaith in God to everybody!

No one is forcing their beliefs on you - if you find yourself questioning your beliefs and becoming angry because of that questioning, maybe you should look at that instead of railing against good people whose only shortcoming, in your opinion, is that they have spiritual faith.

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Feb 24, 2024 16:26:11   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Total malarky. There are no gods. There is exactly NO verifiable evidence of any gods, no proof of any gods. Not even one of the over 2,000 gods dreamed up for operating a scam to control others and take heir money. Here is a major reason that no gods exist: see the MEME for facts. Osteen does virtually nothing to help anyone but himself. Another great preacher.

You're a funny guy. Joel Osteen is a known false teacher.

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Feb 24, 2024 16:27:58   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
My posts regarding religion are merely written with the same degree of brotherly love Their comments exhibit. I reply in kind with verified facts and truth. Curse me and I will curse you back.

Are those the superior morals that you claim you have?

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Feb 24, 2024 16:55:46   #
keepuphope Loc: Idaho
 
TJKMO wrote:
I worship the entire TRINITY.
You should too.


As do I. God in three persons separate yet one in spirit.

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Feb 24, 2024 17:07:33   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
EmilyD wrote:
You find the need to respond to one of my posts three times....and you mention Christians an awful lot in your rants against "religions"!

You use the excuse that you are angry...and not at parishioners, but at an inanimate subject: Religion. And while claiming that, you amazingly follow it with a rant about those very parishioners who operate those religions. And from what you have been posting here, I believe those "parishioners" you mention are really Christians: The true object of your anger and hatred!

It's not "religion" that you are complaining is brainwashing children. It's religious people (Christians?) you are berating with these kinds of comments of yours. The same thing is true in your next complaint about "religions" guaranteeing long-term survival of their congregations. The "religion" is not doing that, it is the people who run the religion. And the "ultimate" person you are angry at....the One you think is responsible for it all, is God. And you hate Him the most of all!

Its not Christians who have put aside an entire month to parade down the streets half naked, acting lewdly and throwing condoms to the crowds. We don't dress up like female clowns and go to the school libraries to read to young children. We don't take a cake-baker to the Supreme Court because they won't bake a cake celebrating something that goes against their core beliefs! You cannot talk about only Christians forcing their beliefs on you when this kind of thing is happening that we Christians are forced to see and hear about. What you always forget is it is a two-way street. If YOU are feeling oppressed by Christians professing their faith to God, we Christians feel oppressed by you leftists professing your UNfaith in God to everybody!

No one is forcing their beliefs on you - if you find yourself questioning your beliefs and becoming angry because of that questioning, maybe you should look at that instead of railing against good people whose only shortcoming, in your opinion, is that they have spiritual faith.

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Bullshit. You read with glasses tinted with preconceived ideas and you only serve to reinforce your own beliefs. You do not read for truth and facts. And saying religions are not forcing their beliefs on others is an abject lie. Anti abortion laws, anti gay, trans, etc. and attempts to stop same sex marriage and more.
These acts are all attempts to force your beliefs on others. Not to mention the recent surge of Christian Nationalists parading around and trying to force their crap on others. I suggest you cease lying about those transgressions against non-Christian people. This is not a Christian nation. It is a nation in which you are free to be a Christian. But you are not free to force your beliefs on others. That is protected by the constitution.



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Feb 24, 2024 17:24:20   #
EmilyD
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Bullshit. You read with glasses tinted with preconceived ideas and you only serve to reinforce your own beliefs. You do not read for truth and facts. And saying religions are not forcing their beliefs on others is an abject lie. Anti abortion laws, anti gay, trans, etc. and attempts to stop same sex marriage and more.
These acts are all attempts to force your beliefs on others. Not to mention the recent surge of Christian Nationalists parading around and trying to force their crap on others. I suggest you cease lying about those transgressions against non-Christian people. This is not a Christian nation. It is a nation in which you are free to be a Christian. But you are not free to force your beliefs on others. That is protected by the constitution.
Bullshit. You read with glasses tinted with precon... (show quote)


Yes. It is obvious that you think life should be lived without anyone else believing anything else except what you profess. That is what you call "truth and facts". It is probably the most shallow thing anyone could ever tell people: that what YOU say is truth and facts, and what EVERYONE ELSE says is "bullshit"....

YOU want US to accept pro-gay, pro-abortion, pro-transgender people and pro-same sex marriage and more!


If you don't like it that Christians exist in the world, tough. There are more than two billion of us.

Deal with it.

We have to deal with the likes of you in the world....
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Feb 24, 2024 17:36:42   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Bullshit. You read with glasses tinted with preconceived ideas and you only serve to reinforce your own beliefs. You do not read for truth and facts. And saying religions are not forcing their beliefs on others is an abject lie. Anti abortion laws, anti gay, trans, etc. and attempts to stop same sex marriage and more.
These acts are all attempts to force your beliefs on others. Not to mention the recent surge of Christian Nationalists parading around and trying to force their crap on others. I suggest you cease lying about those transgressions against non-Christian people. This is not a Christian nation. It is a nation in which you are free to be a Christian. But you are not free to force your beliefs on others. That is protected by the constitution.
Bullshit. You read with glasses tinted with precon... (show quote)



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Feb 24, 2024 17:45:40   #
EmilyD
 
Bad Bob wrote:



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Feb 24, 2024 17:46:11   #
Knightlady
 
Parky60 wrote:
You're a funny guy. Joel Osteen is a known false teacher.


Osteen?

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Feb 24, 2024 18:36:11   #
Big Kahuna
 
TJKMO wrote:
You are WRONG.
There is only ONE TRINITY for Christians.

Don’t PROJECT your evil trinity on me.


No projection, just true facts. Satan x3 is your Trinity.

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Feb 24, 2024 18:41:03   #
Big Kahuna
 
TJKMO wrote:
So, you agree with Mrs. Clinton.
That is surprising.


Hitlery is too disagreeable to ever want to agree with her. The only thing I agreed with Hitlery was her statement that the demorats are easily led and quite stupid. That includes you by the way.



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Feb 24, 2024 19:04:47   #
Big Kahuna
 
EmilyD wrote:
You find the need to respond to one of my posts three times....and you mention Christians an awful lot in your rants against "religions"!

You use the excuse that you are angry...and not at parishioners, but at an inanimate subject: Religion. And while claiming that, you amazingly follow it with a rant about those very parishioners who operate those religions. And from what you have been posting here, I believe those "parishioners" you mention are really Christians: The true object of your anger and hatred!

It's not "religion" that you are complaining is brainwashing children. It's religious people (Christians?) you are berating with these kinds of comments of yours. The same thing is true in your next complaint about "religions" guaranteeing long-term survival of their congregations. The "religion" is not doing that, it is the people who run the religion. And the "ultimate" person you are angry at....the One you think is responsible for it all, is God. And you hate Him the most of all!

Its not Christians who have put aside an entire month to parade down the streets half naked, acting lewdly and throwing condoms to the crowds. We don't dress up like female clowns and go to the school libraries to read to young children. We don't take a cake-baker to the Supreme Court because they won't bake a cake celebrating something that goes against their core beliefs! You cannot talk about only Christians forcing their beliefs on you when this kind of thing is happening that we Christians are forced to see and hear about. What you always forget is it is a two-way street. If YOU are feeling oppressed by Christians professing their faith to God, we Christians feel oppressed by you leftists professing your UNfaith in God to everybody!

No one is forcing their beliefs on you - if you find yourself questioning your beliefs and becoming angry because of that questioning, maybe you should look at that instead of railing against good people whose only shortcoming, in your opinion, is that they have spiritual faith.

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You find the need to respond to one of my posts th... (show quote)


Spot on.



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Feb 24, 2024 19:07:29   #
TJKMO Loc: Bicycle Heaven
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
No projection, just true facts. Satan x3 is your Trinity.


That is just another MAGA fantasy.
You poor lost soul.

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