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As original sinners, did adam and eve go to hell?
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Feb 18, 2024 14:20:09   #
Roamin' Catholic Loc: luxurious exile
 
jSmitty45 wrote:
No such place as purgatory, Catholicism


Purgatory is not a place, it is a process. Being washed in the Blood of the Lamb, thus purged of sin.

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Feb 18, 2024 15:16:19   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
Ronald Hatt wrote:
before you "posit" biblical questions...try reading it first! [ Can you even read?]


No reason to be ugly when someone post a honest question. As for knowing there is a place on opp thats for religion only I'v been here since 2014 I didn't know have always come to people on opp for answers because there is a shit load of knowledgeable people on here and I trust them so sorry if us less smart people like you dont approve

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Feb 18, 2024 15:17:15   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
Roamin' Catholic wrote:
Purgatory is not a place, it is a process. Being washed in the Blood of the Lamb, thus purged of sin.


"Thank you".... Mr. Catholic! [ I am afraid that your words are lost on most all demo'rats in this venue!]

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Feb 18, 2024 15:17:21   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Roamin' Catholic wrote:
Purgatory is not a place, it is a process. Being washed in the Blood of the Lamb, thus purged of sin.

Sorry, if you're not saved before you die it's too late, no being purged of sin after death. And no reincarnation either. If so, show me where it is in the Bible that you can reincarnate or be purged of sin after death. Read Hebrews 9:27.

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Feb 18, 2024 15:19:01   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
bggamers wrote:
No reason to be ugly when someone post a honest question. As for knowing there is a place on opp thats for religion only I'v been here since 2014 I didn't know have always come to people on opp for answers because there is a shit load of knowledgeable people on here and I trust them so sorry if us less smart people like you dont approve


No need to apologize, for your "confessed", ignorance...[ Live with it...BUT...Vote for Trump}, & you will be forgiven!

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Feb 18, 2024 16:14:40   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
[quote=Ronald Hatt]No need to apologize, for your "confessed", ignorance...[ Live with it...BUT...Vote for Trump}, & you will be forgiven![/quote]

already have voted for him twice and will again just don't see the need that's getting to easy for everyone here to drop on someone who asks an honest question I'm looking at my menu I do know at times they will move my subject to general topics other then that I have never seen a split of subject matter by topic such as religion. I don't care what side of the political field anyone's in if you turn on them with ugly hurtful words what makes you any better then they are. But thats me

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Feb 18, 2024 16:20:09   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
bggamers wrote:
already have voted for him twice and will again just don't see the need that's getting to easy for everyone here to drop on someone who asks an honest question I'm looking at my menu I do know at times they will move my subject to general topics other then that I have never seen a split of subject matter by topic such as religion. I don't care what side of the political field anyone's in if you turn on them with ugly hurtful words what makes you any better then they are. But thats me
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"YOU"?

**Digest this: Those that post denigrating, & foul "postings", *against Christianity, *Jesus, & any form of Christian

religion: will suffer the wrath of God! That's a fact, as it is written! **If not in this life...[ so that we could

witness such religious profanity]....then the "next"...also as it is written! *Believe it or not "your choice"

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Feb 18, 2024 16:23:20   #
Roamin' Catholic Loc: luxurious exile
 
Parky60 wrote:
Sorry, if you're not saved before you die it's too late, no being purged of sin after death. And no reincarnation either. If so, show me where it is in the Bible that you can reincarnate or be purged of sin after death. Read Hebrews 9:27.


So it's safe to assume that everyone alive is a sinner. Has the stain of sin upon their soul. Some more so than others, but still...Right?

I understand that a Protestant view is "once saved, always saved". OK, but the problem is after you are saved you can and do still sin. But you cannot take your sin to heaven, you have to dump that wretched baggage and be cleaned off. This is purgation. Washed in the Blood of Christ. It may be instantaneous if our repentance is perfect and our heart contrite, or it may take awhile if we were very bad and not ready to let go.

But what is "a while" in eternity where there is no time?

1 Corinthians 3: 13-15 and 15: 51-52

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Feb 18, 2024 16:50:29   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
Roamin' Catholic wrote:
Purgatory is not a place, it is a process. Being washed in the Blood of the Lamb, thus purged of sin.


But no one can pray you into heaven once you are deceased.

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Feb 18, 2024 17:04:58   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
Roamin' Catholic wrote:
So it's safe to assume that everyone alive is a sinner. Has the stain of sin upon their soul. Some more so than others, but still...Right?

I understand that a Protestant view is "once saved, always saved". OK, but the problem is after you are saved you can and do still sin. But you cannot take your sin to heaven, you have to dump that wretched baggage and be cleaned off. This is purgation. Washed in the Blood of Christ. It may be instantaneous if our repentance is perfect and our heart contrite, or it may take awhile if we were very bad and not ready to let go.

But what is "a while" in eternity where there is no time?

1 Corinthians 3: 13-15 and 15: 51-52
So it's safe to assume that everyone alive is a si... (show quote)


Looks. like "parky", needs some religious teaching? He hungers for it...he is a lost soul...he is "damned", so, can

you save him? Point him in the right direction? Should we pray for him? Will that help"

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Feb 18, 2024 17:37:12   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
Ronald Hatt wrote:
Looks. like "parky", needs some religious teaching? He hungers for it...he is a lost soul...he is "damned", so, can

you save him? Point him in the right direction? Should we pray for him? Will that help"


Hopefully.

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Feb 18, 2024 19:09:00   #
Roamin' Catholic Loc: luxurious exile
 
jSmitty45 wrote:
But no one can pray you into heaven once you are deceased.


Right, only Jesus can escort you to the Father.

Jesus said, "No one comes to the Father but through me."

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Feb 18, 2024 19:12:37   #
Roamin' Catholic Loc: luxurious exile
 
Ronald Hatt wrote:
Looks. like "parky", needs some religious teaching? He hungers for it...he is a lost soul...he is "damned", so, can

you save him? Point him in the right direction? Should we pray for him? Will that help"


Parky's in very good shape I think. But we all benefit from each other's prayers. I will pray for all of us tonight. Please pray for me as well.

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Feb 18, 2024 20:49:26   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
American Scene wrote:
They 'existed' long before jesus was born, so did they and all other humans wind up in hell until the

concept of religion was invented?

Or is the bible just literature or an allegory, created by the fertile imaginations of men, seeking rewards

of money or worship from the gullible?



https://www.grunge.com/1518005/big-question-not-answered-about-adam-and-eve-in-bible/


Everyone gets to know Jesus! When he died for all sinners he went to Sheol to deliver the news! No one left out! Read the Bible sometime

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Feb 18, 2024 20:50:23   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
American, I happen to believe that much of Genesis is allegory. While I am a man of faith, I am also a person that believes that the best way to discover truth is through science. Modern science believes in evolution, not any kind of abra cacabra. Carbon dating methods and dug up fossils are the only answer I can believe. They clearly show that man evolved from earlier kinds of humans like Lucy.


You are delusional

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