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Aug 6, 2014 16:28:19   #
Patty
 
Crimes against Humanity in Donbass: Ukraine Government Uses Ballistic Missile against its Own People

ukraine nazi emblems

Posted by Gleb Bazov ⋅ August 6, 2014

The Ukrainian government has admitted redeploying Short-Range Ballistic Missile Tochka-U (NATO classification: SS-21 Scarab) units within firing range of Donetsk and Lugansk. There is already evidence of either this terrifying weapon or something very similar having been used in a Ukrainian strike on Shakhtyorsk.

The strike targeted civilians – no militiaman was anywhere close. Provided for you below is video evidence if the aftermath of this event and the scars it left behind.

Video: Village of Shakhtyorsk, August 4, 2014 Scherbakov Street
Translated by Valentina Lisitsa / Subtitles by Marcel Sardo
http://www.globalresearch.ca/crimes-against-humanity-ukraine-government-uses-ballistic-missile-against-its-own-people/5395035

You tell me that Kiev isn't getting weapons from the US. Since when did they have bombs that can leave a hole 20 feet deep till now.

The proud Ukrainian Nazi military patches.
The proud Ukrainian Nazi military patches....

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Aug 6, 2014 16:32:09   #
DJRich Loc: Western Pa
 
Just wondering, who are you supporting in this conflict?

Putin? or the government of Ukraine?

Your posts seem to suggest that you are a Putin person, against Ukraine and the US.









Patty wrote:
Crimes against Humanity in Donbass: Ukraine Government Uses Ballistic Missile against its Own People

ukraine nazi emblems

Posted by Gleb Bazov ⋅ August 6, 2014

The Ukrainian government has admitted redeploying Short-Range Ballistic Missile Tochka-U (NATO classification: SS-21 Scarab) units within firing range of Donetsk and Lugansk. There is already evidence of either this terrifying weapon or something very similar having been used in a Ukrainian strike on Shakhtyorsk.

The strike targeted civilians – no militiaman was anywhere close. Provided for you below is video evidence if the aftermath of this event and the scars it left behind.

Video: Village of Shakhtyorsk, August 4, 2014 Scherbakov Street
Translated by Valentina Lisitsa / Subtitles by Marcel Sardo
http://www.globalresearch.ca/crimes-against-humanity-ukraine-government-uses-ballistic-missile-against-its-own-people/5395035

You tell me that Kiev isn't getting weapons from the US. Since when did they have bombs that can leave a hole 20 feet deep till now.
Crimes against Humanity in Donbass: Ukraine Govern... (show quote)

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Aug 6, 2014 16:34:53   #
Patty
 
Putin is not in this separatist civil war. If he were it would have been over 3 months ago.
The only reason I feel this is so important is because it has been in the works since the 90's and is considered the do or die outcome for the elitists NWO.
This is Washington elitists against unarmed citizens of Donbass using an illegitmate junta Nazi Kiev government.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-eurasian-chessboard-brzezinski-mapped-out-the-battle-for...

"Brzezinski delved into the importance of little known Ukraine by explaining in his 1997 book, “Geopolitical pivots are the states whose importance is derived not from their power and motivation but rather from their sensitive location… which in some cases gives them a special role in either defining access to important areas or in denying resources to a significant player.”

Brzezinski wrote that Eurasia is “the chessboard on which the struggle for global primacy continues to be played,” and that “it is imperative that no Eurasian challenger emerges, capable of dominating Eurasia and thus also of challenging America.”
DJRich wrote:
Just wondering, who are you supporting in this conflict?

Putin? or the government of Ukraine?

Your posts seem to suggest that you are a Putin person, against Ukraine and the US.



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Aug 6, 2014 16:37:42   #
DJRich Loc: Western Pa
 
So you are claiming that Putin did not annex Crimea?

Must have missed that one





Patty wrote:
Putin is not in this separatist civil war. If he were it would have been over 3 months ago.
The only reason I feel this is so important is because it has been in the works since the 90's and is considered the do or die outcome for the elitists NWO.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-eurasian-chessboard-brzezinski-mapped-out-the-battle-for...

"Brzezinski delved into the importance of little known Ukraine by explaining in his 1997 book, “Geopolitical pivots are the states whose importance is derived not from their power and motivation but rather from their sensitive location… which in some cases gives them a special role in either defining access to important areas or in denying resources to a significant player.”

Brzezinski wrote that Eurasia is “the chessboard on which the struggle for global primacy continues to be played,” and that “it is imperative that no Eurasian challenger emerges, capable of dominating Eurasia and thus also of challenging America.”
Putin is not in this separatist civil war. If he w... (show quote)

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Aug 6, 2014 16:42:10   #
Patty
 
http://www.globalresearch.ca/why-wont-obama-just-leave-ukraine-alone/5395031

"The US has already provided the Ukrainian military with $23 million for defense security, $5 million in body armor, $8 million to help secure Ukraine’s borders, several hundred thousand ready-to-eat meals as well as an array of communications equipment. Congress is urging the president to send lethal military aid and the administration is reportedly considering sending real-time intelligence to help target rebel positions.

But let’s not forget that this whole crisis started with the US-sponsored coup against Ukraine’s elected president back in February. The US escalates while it demands that Russia de-escalate. How about all sides de-escalate?

Even when the goals are clear, sanctions have a lousy track record. Sanctions are acts of war. These sanctions will most definitely have a negative effect on the US economy as well as the Russian economy. Why is “winning” Ukraine so important to Washington? Why are they risking a major war with Russia to deny people in Ukraine the right to self-determination? Let’s just leave Ukraine alone!"
More Washington do as I say bull crap. Tell me why does Washington continue to sanction Russia for interfering in this country when obviously had Russia been interfering Kiev would be a smoldering pile of rubble.
I am sick and tired of Washington using my hard earned money to kill innocent people so they can steal other countries resources.

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Aug 6, 2014 16:50:42   #
Patty
 
Yes clearly he did not take Crimea by annexation butr by a referendum of the people..
The affirmation that the referendum in Crimea «contravenes international law» has no whatsoever justification at all. The representatives of Moldova, Japan and other states insisted that the referendum is in conflict with international law, but not any of them remembered which exactly article it contravenes. Their poor memory is explainable, they had nothing to say. International law offers no articles which ban referendums. To the contrary,the International Court of Justice has ruled that a unilateral declaration of independence does not contravene international law.

Neither the sponsors of Ukrainian revolution, nor the pro-Western majority at the General Assembly, took great pains to substantiate their arguments. It all boiled down to pure propaganda. They purposefully distort the factual and legal state of things. For instance, they constantly use the term «annexation» while Crimea acceded by its own choice based on free expression of people’ will to leave Ukraine and become part of another state.
DJRich wrote:
So you are claiming that Putin did not annex Crimea?

Must have missed that one

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Aug 6, 2014 16:51:03   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
He's Trying To Deflect To Suit Some Narrative.
Putin Must Be In Cahoots With Kiev To Blast It's Own Civilians Buying Groceries And Going To Work :wink:

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Aug 6, 2014 16:54:58   #
Patty
 
I think some are just to far gone to get what is actually going on there carpenter. Putin turned down Donbass and asked them to postpone their vote on referendum. Does that sound like a guy who is trying to expand Russias borders.
karpenter wrote:
He's Trying To Deflect To Suit Some Narrative.
Putin Must Be In Cahoots With Kiev To Blast It's Own Civilians Buying Groceries And Going To Work :wink:



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Aug 6, 2014 17:20:37   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
Patty wrote:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/why-wont-obama-just-leave-ukraine-alone/5395031

"The US has already provided the Ukrainian military with $23 million for defense security, $5 million in body armor, $8 million to help secure Ukraine’s borders, several hundred thousand ready-to-eat meals as well as an array of communications equipment. Congress is urging the president to send lethal military aid and the administration is reportedly considering sending real-time intelligence to help target rebel positions.

But let’s not forget that this whole crisis started with the US-sponsored coup against Ukraine’s elected president back in February. The US escalates while it demands that Russia de-escalate. How about all sides de-escalate?

Even when the goals are clear, sanctions have a lousy track record. Sanctions are acts of war. These sanctions will most definitely have a negative effect on the US economy as well as the Russian economy. Why is “winning” Ukraine so important to Washington? Why are they risking a major war with Russia to deny people in Ukraine the right to self-determination? Let’s just leave Ukraine alone!"
More Washington do as I say bull crap. Tell me why does Washington continue to sanction Russia for interfering in this country when obviously had Russia been interfering Kiev would be a smoldering pile of rubble.
I am sick and tired of Washington using my hard earned money to kill innocent people so they can steal other countries resources.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/why-wont-obama-just-l... (show quote)


Your premise appears to me to be false. Russia is already engaged in a war with Ukraine. The annexation of Crimea being the prime example. Now Russia seems to be after the eastern part of a sovereign nation. When will you condemn Russia for aggression against a sovereign state?

Unless you are willing to support all such movements (e.g. the Kurds, ISIS, ETA, Boko Haram, and any number of such minorities with grievances against a central gov't) on principle, why focus on the separatists of Ukraine as being more legitimate than any other separatist movement?

My own suspicion is that the Ukraine situation is a no win for the US, but another way for you to bash the Obama administration. The US should leave Ukraine alone so that we can ask ourselves 'who lost Ukraine' and blame Obama or we should intervene and ask ourselves 'why did Obama start that war'? Or would you like to see the Russian Empire reconstituted?

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Aug 6, 2014 17:43:11   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
Oh Lookit

The Kurds Are The Same As ISIS And Boko Haram
Patty You Need To Support ISIS, You Hypocrite, You

Talk Of A False Premise

But Please Sir, Carry On....

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Aug 6, 2014 17:46:08   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
karpenter wrote:
Oh Lookit

The Kurds Are The Same As ISIS And Boko Haram
Talk Of A False Premise

But Please, Carry On....



They are to the central gov'ts trying to deal with them. Anything else?

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Aug 6, 2014 19:10:28   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
Hysterical

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Aug 6, 2014 20:31:37   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
karpenter wrote:
Hysterical


great.....another illiterate

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Aug 6, 2014 20:49:36   #
MrEd Loc: Georgia
 
karpenter wrote:
Hysterical




If you would be kind enough to use the Quote Reply at the bottom of the post, we would know who you are talking to and understand you better. Thanks...............

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Aug 6, 2014 21:58:07   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
working class stiff wrote:
great.....another illiterate


great.....another retard

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