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Jan 25, 2024 20:53:30   #
Proudconservative
 
nonalien1 wrote:
I think a deeper underlying cause is a big part of the problem.
The shadow government that directs the direction of our country
What I'm calling the shadow government or deep state are unelected and sometimes not even citizens that get together in groups like The World Economic Forum , the Trilateral Commission the League of Nations and others like this that sit around deciding what's " Best" for us.. It barely matters what we the people want. If it is not in their best interest they are very reluctant to let it happen. The International Banksters control the world. They have a major interest in our government with many in Congress loyal to them over what's best for America. They have control over the media and this makes it easy to influence the voters.
I think a deeper underlying cause is a big part of... (show quote)


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Jan 25, 2024 20:59:27   #
EmilyD
 
straightUp wrote:
...Or America can just continue to bicker and insult each other for having different opinions.


These people are not "immigrants"! Immigrants move to another country and obey the immigration laws of that country.

They are also not "undocumented immigrants". There's no such thing. Every immigrant who is allowed to live here has had to prove who they are with valid ID and other paperwork that show they are qualified to LEGALLY live here in our country.

These people are also NOT refugees. According to our laws, refugees must present at a legal port of entry to the US, say they are applying for asylum because they fear for their lives, and are required to apply for citizenship by filling out an application and waiting to be approved to become a citizen. They are allowed to live temporarily in the US while their case is being decided.
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Unlawful entry into our country is a Felony. (Look up what the penalty is for a felony here! It almost always involves some jail time!)

Unlawful entry into the United States means that a person has entered the United States outside of immigration laws that allow legal entrance into the U.S. Unlawful entry is legally called "improper entry" (U.S. Code Title 8, Section 1325). In America, when people commit crimes - especially felonies - and are detained for those crimes, they are automatically separated from their families while they pay the consequences of those crimes.

A person is considered to have illegally entered the U.S. if they:

- Enter at a place without immigration officers present or at a location that is not a designated point of entry

- Enter without being examined or inspected by immigration officers

- Enter based on false or misleading information

- Enter while willfully concealing facts or materials

Why should an illegal alien criminal, who thinks they can sneak into our country ahead of people who are waiting to become legitimate, legal American citizens, be treated any differently than American citizens who commit crimes against our laws? These people are intentionally and deliberately disobeying our laws and must be held accountable for that!

Biden has kept our border open for almost three years now. He has thwarted any attempts to close it. And after three years of lockdowns, mandates, massive job loss, massive closure of business and inflation that is higher than most of us have ever seen in our lives, he expects us to dig deep and tighten our belts, buy less food and clothes and struggle to pay for housing, food, medical care and many other things for these criminals - and their families (!!) - who are invading our country???

Yeah....let's vote for Biden again - maybe he'll open our northern border so those countries who have a hard time making it to our southern border will be able to invade us from there!

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Jan 25, 2024 21:52:05   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
archie bunker wrote:
How much stuff is in the bill for climate change, queers, and Ukraine?


Ask your rep, not this group.

Haven't you learned about representatives?

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Jan 25, 2024 22:06:22   #
Rose42
 
federally indicted mattoid wrote:
Ask your rep, not this group.

Haven't you learned about representatives?


Haven’t you learned what people do on discussion boards?

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Jan 25, 2024 22:22:20   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
federally indicted mattoid wrote:
Ask your rep, not this group.

Haven't you learned about representatives?


I wasn't asking the group, dipwad. I asked a specific poster.

You ain't all that bright, are ya?

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Jan 26, 2024 08:33:27   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
archie bunker wrote:
I wasn't asking the group, dipwad. I asked a specific poster.

You ain't all that bright, are ya?

Federally Indoctrinated Mattoid has proven that time and again.

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Jan 26, 2024 08:58:46   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
facts matter wrote:
Well, Biden and Speaker Johnson came up with an immigration bill that was called, by Republican Senators, as being very tough. I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that trump and maga will stop it from passing. Then I guess you can blame trump and maga for the border problem.


Well, House Republicans Approve Immigration Package With Title 42 Set to Expire last May, that the Democrats promptly shot down. One of them accerted it should be shot down because it contained some of Trumps policies. "Didn't matter that they were working, had Trumps name behind it"! Look it up, I gave you the title.

""The legislation, which passed largely along party lines, would bring back a number of Trump administration border policies, like resuming construction of the wall along the southern border, while hiring and training additional border patrol agents and restricting asylum requirements. Its passage marks a victory for the Republican majority, which made border security a top priority heading into the new Congress, but has for months seen intra-party disputes threaten the package’s road to approval.""

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Jan 26, 2024 09:35:38   #
Radar OReilly
 
straightUp wrote:
...Or America can just continue to bicker and insult each other for having different opinions.


Thanks for posting this. You are absolutely right. A Choice needs to be made and Soon. Time for us ALL to grow up and start working together. Instead of acting like rival highschoolers before the big game.

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Jan 26, 2024 13:07:39   #
pescado rojo
 
EmilyD wrote:
These people are not "immigrants"! Immigrants move to another country and obey the immigration laws of that country.

They are also not "undocumented immigrants". There's no such thing. Every immigrant who is allowed to live here has had to prove who they are with valid ID and other paperwork that show they are qualified to LEGALLY live here in our country.

These people are also NOT refugees. According to our laws, refugees must present at a legal port of entry to the US, say they are applying for asylum because they fear for their lives, and are required to apply for citizenship by filling out an application and waiting to be approved to become a citizen. They are allowed to live temporarily in the US while their case is being decided.
****************************************

Unlawful entry into our country is a Felony. (Look up what the penalty is for a felony here! It almost always involves some jail time!)

Unlawful entry into the United States means that a person has entered the United States outside of immigration laws that allow legal entrance into the U.S. Unlawful entry is legally called "improper entry" (U.S. Code Title 8, Section 1325). In America, when people commit crimes - especially felonies - and are detained for those crimes, they are automatically separated from their families while they pay the consequences of those crimes.

A person is considered to have illegally entered the U.S. if they:

- Enter at a place without immigration officers present or at a location that is not a designated point of entry

- Enter without being examined or inspected by immigration officers

- Enter based on false or misleading information

- Enter while willfully concealing facts or materials

Why should an illegal alien criminal, who thinks they can sneak into our country ahead of people who are waiting to become legitimate, legal American citizens, be treated any differently than American citizens who commit crimes against our laws? These people are intentionally and deliberately disobeying our laws and must be held accountable for that!

Biden has kept our border open for almost three years now. He has thwarted any attempts to close it. And after three years of lockdowns, mandates, massive job loss, massive closure of business and inflation that is higher than most of us have ever seen in our lives, he expects us to dig deep and tighten our belts, buy less food and clothes and struggle to pay for housing, food, medical care and many other things for these criminals - and their families (!!) - who are invading our country???

Yeah....let's vote for Biden again - maybe he'll open our northern border so those countries who have a hard time making it to our southern border will be able to invade us from there!

..
These people are not "immigrants"! Immig... (show quote)


It does no good to quote black letter US law; StraightUp is convinced he is smarter than everyone else; the law must be wrong since he disagrees with it. I not only quoted the laws, I provided links to the US Code to the specific ones. I got crickets.

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Jan 26, 2024 14:15:55   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
XXX wrote:
What would you prefer? Communism?


XXX, Communism is not the major problem anymore, because it just didn't work well wherever it was tried. All it ever brought to people that lived in Communist countries was tyranny, and poverty. Today the real threat to democracy comes from the far right, not left. It was the far right MAGAmaniacs that broke into the Capitol building on Jan.6th, and threatened Congress, and even the Republican VP. It was a far right terrorist that broke into Nancy Pelosies home and tried to kill her husband. It is far right wing gun nuts that demand that military style assault weapons be allowed to be sold to civilians. It is the far right that tried to overthrow a democratic election that Biden won fair and square. All this, and so much more. Trump has been indicted four times for committing ninety one felonies.

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Jan 26, 2024 14:25:41   #
XXX Loc: Somewhere north of the Mason-Dixon
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
XXX, Communism is not the major problem anymore, because it just didn't work well wherever it was tried. All it ever brought to people that lived in Communist countries was tyranny, and poverty. Today the real threat to democracy comes from the far right, not left. It was the far right MAGAmaniacs that broke into the Capitol building on Jan.6th, and threatened Congress, and even the Republican VP. It was a far right terrorist that broke into Nancy Pelosies home and tried to kill her husband. It is far right wing gun nuts that demand that military style assault weapons be allowed to be sold to civilians. It is the far right that tried to overthrow a democratic election that Biden won fair and square. All this, and so much more. Trump has been indicted four times for committing ninety one felonies.
XXX, Communism is not the major problem anymore, b... (show quote)


Well I can't agree with almost anything you said and that's how it will have to be. Here is a link to something you might find interesting. https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-303594-1.html#4776091

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Jan 26, 2024 15:00:45   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
XXX, Communism is not the major problem anymore, because it just didn't work well wherever it was tried. All it ever brought to people that lived in Communist countries was tyranny, and poverty. Today the real threat to democracy comes from the far right, not left. It was the far right MAGAmaniacs that broke into the Capitol building on Jan.6th, and threatened Congress, and even the Republican VP. It was a far right terrorist that broke into Nancy Pelosies home and tried to kill her husband. It is far right wing gun nuts that demand that military style assault weapons be allowed to be sold to civilians. It is the far right that tried to overthrow a democratic election that Biden won fair and square. All this, and so much more. Trump has been indicted four times for committing ninety one felonies.
XXX, Communism is not the major problem anymore, b... (show quote)


Hummm! Who were those people dressed in black and assaulting people for expressing their opinions, burning businesses to the ground, looting, assaulting police stations and State Capitals, claiming their own territory (Chaz), pushing Asian people onto train tracks, walking behind them and slapping them to the ground, attacking people who are trying to get work in their cars, blocking their thruways to jobs, hospitals and homes. Telling their constituents to get into the faces of the people who don't agree with them and tell them they're not wanted. Shooting police officers in cold blood, chasing teenagers down in the streets because of the color of their hats, assaulting elderly people and sitting at street Cafe's...............and you think Republicans are a threat to democracy. I'd laugh if it wasn't so sick that you can't even see or acknowledge the violence of your own party. Months of it, not one day.

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Jan 26, 2024 15:10:27   #
facts matter
 
archie bunker wrote:
How much stuff is in the bill for climate change, queers, and Ukraine?


How much is in it for getting you're head out of you're ass?

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Jan 26, 2024 15:16:27   #
XXX Loc: Somewhere north of the Mason-Dixon
 
facts matter wrote:
How much is in it for getting you're head out of you're ass?


Get your head out of YOUR ass and LOOK! 👀

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Jan 26, 2024 16:09:05   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
facts matter wrote:
How much is in it for getting you're head out of you're ass?


Did I touch a nerve?🤣

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