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Jan 6, 2024 04:57:07   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
David L wrote:
Nick, apparently your reading skills are not all that good. Ivermectin and Hydroychloroquine have been used VERY successfully by many people world wide.. On the other hand, the all new drug designed soley for the profit of big Pharma killed many many people.

There is plenty of evidence to be found if you truly care, but one source is the book by Erin Marie Olszweski, BSN. RN. The title is "Undercover Epicenter Nurse." For documenting and exposing the truth of what went on in major Hospitals, she has received major death threats and even her children have been threatened. So, read the book and tell us what you think about the situation after you get a little first hand documentation.
Nick, apparently your reading skills are not all t... (show quote)


Still is

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Jan 6, 2024 05:00:00   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 

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Jan 6, 2024 07:15:46   #
Rose42
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Donald Trump began shilling for the use of hydroxychloroquine at the very first of what became his daily White House update on the COVID-19 pandemic. The drug is primarily used as an anti-parasitic, mostly in the treatment of malaria, and there was never any good evidence that it was effective in addressing COVID-19.

Hydroxychloroquine can lower the number f infection-fighting white blood cells, making it possibly the worst type of medication for anyone trying to fight off an infection. However, in the earliest days of the pandemic, Trump declared the drug a “game changer” and began stockpiling millions of pills. Under pressure from Trump and TV Host Dr. Oz, the FDA authorized emergency use of hydroxychloroquine as a potential treatment for COVID-19. The drug didn’t work. The U.S. ended up with a mountain of worthless pills. And Trump went right on promoting its use long after the FDA officially warned consumers not to use it.

It’s impossible to know how much Trump’s promise that hydroxychloroquine was an effective treatment caused people to disregard the threat of COVID-19 or how much this opened the door to conspiracy theories about vaccines. But a new study in Biomedicine and Pharmacotherapy puts an estimated number on deaths directly resulting from the use of this drug to treat COVID-19 patients: 16,990.

That hydroxychloroquine was more likely to kill than to cure was known very early. A study released just one month after Trump began promoting the drug showed that patients given Trump’s wonder treatment were more likely to die. The treatment was found to have a strong association with heart issues, and the results were so clear and overwhelming that the trial use of the drug was suspended ahead of schedule.

Those same results have now been confirmed by researchers in France who looked at the use of hydroxychloroquine across six countries. In all cases, the use of the drug with COVID-19 patients increased the rate of deaths. Overall, patients who were administered hydroxychloroquine were 11% more likely to die than those who were not.

Of course, there was one brilliant paper later cited by Trump that concluded treatment with hydroxychloroquine “improves survival by over 100%” even though 78% of the people in the study died. That’s science, people. Science that shockingly never made it into an actual peer-reviewed journal.

Due to the level of promotion hydroxychloroquine received, that 11% increased rate of death extends across millions of patients, both in the U.S. and overseas. In some locations, as many as 84% of patients diagnosed with symptomatic COVID-19 were prescribed hydroxychloroquine. The result is that an estimated 16,990 people died unnecessarily.

As scientists behind the study conclude, the story of hydroxychloroquine and COVID-19 illustrates “the hazard of drug repurposing with low-level evidence.” But it wasn’t the only time Trump declared that something unrelated would provide a cure for COVID-19. Trump also promoted the horse deworming medicine ivermectin, which led to a run on the treatment at farm supply stores. Trump also pushed the use of convalescent plasma before any trials had shown it was effective.

The plasma idea, unlike the use of a malaria drug or horse paste, at least had the benefit of being based on a somewhat reasonable theory. However, it still didn’t work. And, as should go without saying, neither did the de-wormer.

Because Donald Trump can never be wrong, plenty of other Republicans were happy to hop on the quack medicine train. That included Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis. For his new surgeon general, DeSantis went straight to hydroxychloroquine promoter, anti-masker, and anti-vaccine guy Dr. Joseph Ladapo. Lapado was back in the news this week after he appeared on Steve Bannon’s show to tell people to stop getting vaccinated. Because mRNA vaccines are an affront to God. “DeSantis’ Florida Surgeon General Dr. Joseph Ladapo says covid mRNA vaccines “the Anti-Christ of all products… That’s so wrong, you know, it’s just complete disrespect to the human genome and the importance of protecting it and preserving it, and that is our connection to God.”

What a load of garbage. No amount of lies, stupidity, and causing nearly another 17,000 covid deaths is enough to wake up idiots wearing MAGA hats.
Donald Trump began shilling for the use of hydroxy... (show quote)


Your hatred of trump impedes your discernment

I have to correct some of your misinformation. Ivermectin is not a horse dewormer - that was said by some bozo on CNN and people just started repeating it. Its used on many animals - and humans as well - and has been for years.

India handed out covid kits which contained - guess what - ivermectin. They were successful in combatting covid in part because the pharmacutical companies did not have the influence there as they do here and they did what worked

Many died after they were treated with remdesivir which is a very expensive treatment. Ivermectin when used correctly is far safer

Let go of your hate and open your eyes to see more clearly. And no I’m not a trump supporter.

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Jan 6, 2024 09:00:10   #
BIRDMAN
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Donald Trump began shilling for the use of hydroxychloroquine at the very first of what became his daily White House update on the COVID-19 pandemic. The drug is primarily used as an anti-parasitic, mostly in the treatment of malaria, and there was never any good evidence that it was effective in addressing COVID-19.

Hydroxychloroquine can lower the number f infection-fighting white blood cells, making it possibly the worst type of medication for anyone trying to fight off an infection. However, in the earliest days of the pandemic, Trump declared the drug a “game changer” and began stockpiling millions of pills. Under pressure from Trump and TV Host Dr. Oz, the FDA authorized emergency use of hydroxychloroquine as a potential treatment for COVID-19. The drug didn’t work. The U.S. ended up with a mountain of worthless pills. And Trump went right on promoting its use long after the FDA officially warned consumers not to use it.

It’s impossible to know how much Trump’s promise that hydroxychloroquine was an effective treatment caused people to disregard the threat of COVID-19 or how much this opened the door to conspiracy theories about vaccines. But a new study in Biomedicine and Pharmacotherapy puts an estimated number on deaths directly resulting from the use of this drug to treat COVID-19 patients: 16,990.

That hydroxychloroquine was more likely to kill than to cure was known very early. A study released just one month after Trump began promoting the drug showed that patients given Trump’s wonder treatment were more likely to die. The treatment was found to have a strong association with heart issues, and the results were so clear and overwhelming that the trial use of the drug was suspended ahead of schedule.

Those same results have now been confirmed by researchers in France who looked at the use of hydroxychloroquine across six countries. In all cases, the use of the drug with COVID-19 patients increased the rate of deaths. Overall, patients who were administered hydroxychloroquine were 11% more likely to die than those who were not.

Of course, there was one brilliant paper later cited by Trump that concluded treatment with hydroxychloroquine “improves survival by over 100%” even though 78% of the people in the study died. That’s science, people. Science that shockingly never made it into an actual peer-reviewed journal.

Due to the level of promotion hydroxychloroquine received, that 11% increased rate of death extends across millions of patients, both in the U.S. and overseas. In some locations, as many as 84% of patients diagnosed with symptomatic COVID-19 were prescribed hydroxychloroquine. The result is that an estimated 16,990 people died unnecessarily.

As scientists behind the study conclude, the story of hydroxychloroquine and COVID-19 illustrates “the hazard of drug repurposing with low-level evidence.” But it wasn’t the only time Trump declared that something unrelated would provide a cure for COVID-19. Trump also promoted the horse deworming medicine ivermectin, which led to a run on the treatment at farm supply stores. Trump also pushed the use of convalescent plasma before any trials had shown it was effective.

The plasma idea, unlike the use of a malaria drug or horse paste, at least had the benefit of being based on a somewhat reasonable theory. However, it still didn’t work. And, as should go without saying, neither did the de-wormer.

Because Donald Trump can never be wrong, plenty of other Republicans were happy to hop on the quack medicine train. That included Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis. For his new surgeon general, DeSantis went straight to hydroxychloroquine promoter, anti-masker, and anti-vaccine guy Dr. Joseph Ladapo. Lapado was back in the news this week after he appeared on Steve Bannon’s show to tell people to stop getting vaccinated. Because mRNA vaccines are an affront to God. “DeSantis’ Florida Surgeon General Dr. Joseph Ladapo says covid mRNA vaccines “the Anti-Christ of all products… That’s so wrong, you know, it’s just complete disrespect to the human genome and the importance of protecting it and preserving it, and that is our connection to God.”

What a load of garbage. No amount of lies, stupidity, and causing nearly another 17,000 covid deaths is enough to wake up idiots wearing MAGA hats.
Donald Trump began shilling for the use of hydroxy... (show quote)


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Jan 6, 2024 09:44:10   #
Ricktloml
 
Rose42 wrote:
Your hatred of trump impedes your discernment

I have to correct some of your misinformation. Ivermectin is not a horse dewormer - that was said by some bozo on CNN and people just started repeating it. Its used on many animals - and humans as well - and has been for years.

India handed out covid kits which contained - guess what - ivermectin. They were successful in combatting covid in part because the pharmacutical companies did not have the influence there as they do here and they did what worked

Many died after they were treated with remdesivir which is a very expensive treatment. Ivermectin when used correctly is far safer

Let go of your hate and open your eyes to see more clearly. And no I’m not a trump supporter.
Your hatred of trump impedes your discernment br ... (show quote)


Another tid-bit. In African/Asian countries where Ivermectin was routinely used for malaria there was less infection/much lower death rates in general. Leftists know they're lying, (unless they are a REALLY stupid useful idiot) which means they are willing to do ANYTHING to advance their oppressive/murderous agenda.
Keep in mind the core beliefs of Leftists:
False Accusations
False Imprisonments
State Sanctioned Torture
State Sanctioned Murder
The American-Left/Democrat-Communist Party are EAGER to trick/coerce/force this oppressive/murderous system...that has FAILED EVERY TIME it's been tried on the America people. Hate for anything decent, (an interesting definition of decent is conservative) is an integral part of this evil system. The very same system that has MURDERED over 150 million people...and still counting. Because Leftist systems of government NEVER stop oppressing/murdering their own citizens...and they long to wipe out ANY dissent. A long/violent/murderous historical record proves; Leftists are either stupid...or evil...just like their policies.

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Jan 6, 2024 10:31:25   #
Michael Roy Loc: North of Amarillo
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Donald Trump began shilling for the use of hydroxychloroquine at the very first of what became his daily White House update on the COVID-19 pandemic. The drug is primarily used as an anti-parasitic, mostly in the treatment of malaria, and there was never any good evidence that it was effective in addressing COVID-19.

Hydroxychloroquine can lower the number f infection-fighting white blood cells, making it possibly the worst type of medication for anyone trying to fight off an infection. However, in the earliest days of the pandemic, Trump declared the drug a “game changer” and began stockpiling millions of pills. Under pressure from Trump and TV Host Dr. Oz, the FDA authorized emergency use of hydroxychloroquine as a potential treatment for COVID-19. The drug didn’t work. The U.S. ended up with a mountain of worthless pills. And Trump went right on promoting its use long after the FDA officially warned consumers not to use it.

It’s impossible to know how much Trump’s promise that hydroxychloroquine was an effective treatment caused people to disregard the threat of COVID-19 or how much this opened the door to conspiracy theories about vaccines. But a new study in Biomedicine and Pharmacotherapy puts an estimated number on deaths directly resulting from the use of this drug to treat COVID-19 patients: 16,990.

That hydroxychloroquine was more likely to kill than to cure was known very early. A study released just one month after Trump began promoting the drug showed that patients given Trump’s wonder treatment were more likely to die. The treatment was found to have a strong association with heart issues, and the results were so clear and overwhelming that the trial use of the drug was suspended ahead of schedule.

Those same results have now been confirmed by researchers in France who looked at the use of hydroxychloroquine across six countries. In all cases, the use of the drug with COVID-19 patients increased the rate of deaths. Overall, patients who were administered hydroxychloroquine were 11% more likely to die than those who were not.

Of course, there was one brilliant paper later cited by Trump that concluded treatment with hydroxychloroquine “improves survival by over 100%” even though 78% of the people in the study died. That’s science, people. Science that shockingly never made it into an actual peer-reviewed journal.

Due to the level of promotion hydroxychloroquine received, that 11% increased rate of death extends across millions of patients, both in the U.S. and overseas. In some locations, as many as 84% of patients diagnosed with symptomatic COVID-19 were prescribed hydroxychloroquine. The result is that an estimated 16,990 people died unnecessarily.

As scientists behind the study conclude, the story of hydroxychloroquine and COVID-19 illustrates “the hazard of drug repurposing with low-level evidence.” But it wasn’t the only time Trump declared that something unrelated would provide a cure for COVID-19. Trump also promoted the horse deworming medicine ivermectin, which led to a run on the treatment at farm supply stores. Trump also pushed the use of convalescent plasma before any trials had shown it was effective.

The plasma idea, unlike the use of a malaria drug or horse paste, at least had the benefit of being based on a somewhat reasonable theory. However, it still didn’t work. And, as should go without saying, neither did the de-wormer.

Because Donald Trump can never be wrong, plenty of other Republicans were happy to hop on the quack medicine train. That included Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis. For his new surgeon general, DeSantis went straight to hydroxychloroquine promoter, anti-masker, and anti-vaccine guy Dr. Joseph Ladapo. Lapado was back in the news this week after he appeared on Steve Bannon’s show to tell people to stop getting vaccinated. Because mRNA vaccines are an affront to God. “DeSantis’ Florida Surgeon General Dr. Joseph Ladapo says covid mRNA vaccines “the Anti-Christ of all products… That’s so wrong, you know, it’s just complete disrespect to the human genome and the importance of protecting it and preserving it, and that is our connection to God.”

What a load of garbage. No amount of lies, stupidity, and causing nearly another 17,000 covid deaths is enough to wake up idiots wearing MAGA hats.
Donald Trump began shilling for the use of hydroxy... (show quote)


Get your booster NOW.

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Jan 6, 2024 10:55:50   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Rose42 wrote:
Your hatred of trump impedes your discernment

I have to correct some of your misinformation. Ivermectin is not a horse dewormer - that was said by some bozo on CNN and people just started repeating it. Its used on many animals - and humans as well - and has been for years.

India handed out covid kits which contained - guess what - ivermectin. They were successful in combatting covid in part because the pharmacutical companies did not have the influence there as they do here and they did what worked

Many died after they were treated with remdesivir which is a very expensive treatment. Ivermectin when used correctly is far safer

Let go of your hate and open your eyes to see more clearly. And no I’m not a trump supporter.
Your hatred of trump impedes your discernment br ... (show quote)



https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavirus-outbreak/story/why-hcq-ivermectin-dropped-india-covid-treatment-protocol-1857306-2021-09-25?onetap=true

Why HCQ and Ivermectin were removed from India’s Covid-19 treatment protocol
Ivermectin and HCQ were dropped from the clinical guidance after studies found that these drugs have little to no effect on Covid-related mortality or clinical recovery of the patient.

New Delhi,UPDATED: Sep 26, 2021 07:18 IST
The Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) and the National Task Force on Covid-19 have dropped the use of Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) drugs from their revised guidelines for the treatment of the infection.

The decision was taken after experts found that these drugs have little to no effect on Covid-related mortality or clinical recovery of the patient.

“HCQ may be considered for removal from guideline, with recommendation to use with caution only in clinical trial setting (since there is some genuine uncertainty regarding the possible benefit for severe cases and in low dose),” said the document titled ‘considerations for exclusion of Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine from the clinical guidance for management of adult Covid-19 patients’.

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Jan 6, 2024 11:22:20   #
BIRDMAN
 
permafrost wrote:
https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavirus-outbreak/story/why-hcq-ivermectin-dropped-india-covid-treatment-protocol-1857306-2021-09-25?onetap=true

Why HCQ and Ivermectin were removed from India’s Covid-19 treatment protocol
Ivermectin and HCQ were dropped from the clinical guidance after studies found that these drugs have little to no effect on Covid-related mortality or clinical recovery of the patient.

New Delhi,UPDATED: Sep 26, 2021 07:18 IST
The Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) and the National Task Force on Covid-19 have dropped the use of Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) drugs from their revised guidelines for the treatment of the infection.

The decision was taken after experts found that these drugs have little to no effect on Covid-related mortality or clinical recovery of the patient.

“HCQ may be considered for removal from guideline, with recommendation to use with caution only in clinical trial setting (since there is some genuine uncertainty regarding the possible benefit for severe cases and in low dose),” said the document titled ‘considerations for exclusion of Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine from the clinical guidance for management of adult Covid-19 patients’.
https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavirus-outbreak/sto... (show quote)
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Jan 6, 2024 11:31:20   #
Michael Roy Loc: North of Amarillo
 
permafrost wrote:
https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavirus-outbreak/story/why-hcq-ivermectin-dropped-india-covid-treatment-protocol-1857306-2021-09-25?onetap=true

Why HCQ and Ivermectin were removed from India’s Covid-19 treatment protocol
Ivermectin and HCQ were dropped from the clinical guidance after studies found that these drugs have little to no effect on Covid-related mortality or clinical recovery of the patient.

New Delhi,UPDATED: Sep 26, 2021 07:18 IST
The Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) and the National Task Force on Covid-19 have dropped the use of Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) drugs from their revised guidelines for the treatment of the infection.

The decision was taken after experts found that these drugs have little to no effect on Covid-related mortality or clinical recovery of the patient.

“HCQ may be considered for removal from guideline, with recommendation to use with caution only in clinical trial setting (since there is some genuine uncertainty regarding the possible benefit for severe cases and in low dose),” said the document titled ‘considerations for exclusion of Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine from the clinical guidance for management of adult Covid-19 patients’.
https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavirus-outbreak/sto... (show quote)


So these drugs were deemed to be no more or less effective than the “vaccine “.

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Jan 6, 2024 11:35:50   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Another tid-bit. In African/Asian countries where Ivermectin was routinely used for malaria there was less infection/much lower death rates in general. Leftists know they're lying, (unless they are a REALLY stupid useful idiot) which means they are willing to do ANYTHING to advance their oppressive/murderous agenda.
Keep in mind the core beliefs of Leftists:
False Accusations
False Imprisonments
State Sanctioned Torture
State Sanctioned Murder
The American-Left/Democrat-Communist Party are EAGER to trick/coerce/force this oppressive/murderous system...that has FAILED EVERY TIME it's been tried on the America people. Hate for anything decent, (an interesting definition of decent is conservative) is an integral part of this evil system. The very same system that has MURDERED over 150 million people...and still counting. Because Leftist systems of government NEVER stop oppressing/murdering their own citizens...and they long to wipe out ANY dissent. A long/violent/murderous historical record proves; Leftists are either stupid...or evil...just like their policies.
Another tid-bit. In African/Asian countries where ... (show quote)


Keep in mind that the right wing supports a proven criminal who told over 30,000 lies while in office for 4 years. And almost all you get from the right wing is more lies from Der Fureher.

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Jan 6, 2024 11:37:22   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
BIRDMAN wrote:
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Just more lies from the right wing. Most intelligent folks have learned to expect it.

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Jan 6, 2024 12:00:11   #
Justice101
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Donald Trump began shilling for the use of hydroxychloroquine at the very first of what became his daily White House update on the COVID-19 pandemic. The drug is primarily used as an anti-parasitic, mostly in the treatment of malaria, and there was never any good evidence that it was effective in addressing COVID-19.

Hydroxychloroquine can lower the number f infection-fighting white blood cells, making it possibly the worst type of medication for anyone trying to fight off an infection. However, in the earliest days of the pandemic, Trump declared the drug a “game changer” and began stockpiling millions of pills. Under pressure from Trump and TV Host Dr. Oz, the FDA authorized emergency use of hydroxychloroquine as a potential treatment for COVID-19. The drug didn’t work. The U.S. ended up with a mountain of worthless pills. And Trump went right on promoting its use long after the FDA officially warned consumers not to use it.

It’s impossible to know how much Trump’s promise that hydroxychloroquine was an effective treatment caused people to disregard the threat of COVID-19 or how much this opened the door to conspiracy theories about vaccines. But a new study in Biomedicine and Pharmacotherapy puts an estimated number on deaths directly resulting from the use of this drug to treat COVID-19 patients: 16,990.

That hydroxychloroquine was more likely to kill than to cure was known very early. A study released just one month after Trump began promoting the drug showed that patients given Trump’s wonder treatment were more likely to die. The treatment was found to have a strong association with heart issues, and the results were so clear and overwhelming that the trial use of the drug was suspended ahead of schedule.

Those same results have now been confirmed by researchers in France who looked at the use of hydroxychloroquine across six countries. In all cases, the use of the drug with COVID-19 patients increased the rate of deaths. Overall, patients who were administered hydroxychloroquine were 11% more likely to die than those who were not.

Of course, there was one brilliant paper later cited by Trump that concluded treatment with hydroxychloroquine “improves survival by over 100%” even though 78% of the people in the study died. That’s science, people. Science that shockingly never made it into an actual peer-reviewed journal.

Due to the level of promotion hydroxychloroquine received, that 11% increased rate of death extends across millions of patients, both in the U.S. and overseas. In some locations, as many as 84% of patients diagnosed with symptomatic COVID-19 were prescribed hydroxychloroquine. The result is that an estimated 16,990 people died unnecessarily.

As scientists behind the study conclude, the story of hydroxychloroquine and COVID-19 illustrates “the hazard of drug repurposing with low-level evidence.” But it wasn’t the only time Trump declared that something unrelated would provide a cure for COVID-19. Trump also promoted the horse deworming medicine ivermectin, which led to a run on the treatment at farm supply stores. Trump also pushed the use of convalescent plasma before any trials had shown it was effective.

The plasma idea, unlike the use of a malaria drug or horse paste, at least had the benefit of being based on a somewhat reasonable theory. However, it still didn’t work. And, as should go without saying, neither did the de-wormer.

Because Donald Trump can never be wrong, plenty of other Republicans were happy to hop on the quack medicine train. That included Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis. For his new surgeon general, DeSantis went straight to hydroxychloroquine promoter, anti-masker, and anti-vaccine guy Dr. Joseph Ladapo. Lapado was back in the news this week after he appeared on Steve Bannon’s show to tell people to stop getting vaccinated. Because mRNA vaccines are an affront to God. “DeSantis’ Florida Surgeon General Dr. Joseph Ladapo says covid mRNA vaccines “the Anti-Christ of all products… That’s so wrong, you know, it’s just complete disrespect to the human genome and the importance of protecting it and preserving it, and that is our connection to God.”

What a load of garbage. No amount of lies, stupidity, and causing nearly another 17,000 covid deaths is enough to wake up idiots wearing MAGA hats.
Donald Trump began shilling for the use of hydroxy... (show quote)


I don't know where you got your "load of garbage" since you won't post your source, but mine is from a U.S. government source.

Hydroxychloroquine is effective, and consistently so when provided early, for COVID-19: a systematic review
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7534595/

Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) has shown efficacy against coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) in some but not all studies. We hypothesized that a systematic review would show HCQ to be effective against COVID-19, more effective when provided earlier, not associated with worsening disease and safe. We searched PubMed, Cochrane, Embase, Google Scholar and Google for all reports on HCQ as a treatment for COVID-19 patients. This included preprints and preliminary reports on larger COVID-19 studies. We examined the studies for efficacy, time of administration and safety. HCQ was found to be consistently effective against COVID-19 when provided early in the outpatient setting. It was also found to be overall effective in inpatient studies. No unbiased study found worse outcomes with HCQ use. No mortality or serious safety adverse events were found. HCQ is consistently effective against COVID-19 when provided early in the outpatient setting, it is overall effective against COVID-19, it has not produced worsening of disease and it is safe.

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Jan 6, 2024 12:12:59   #
Jim0001 Loc: originally from Tennessee, now Virginia, USA
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Donald Trump began shilling for the use of hydroxychloroquine at the very first of what became his daily White House update on the COVID-19 pandemic. The drug is primarily used as an anti-parasitic, mostly in the treatment of malaria, and there was never any good evidence that it was effective in addressing COVID-19.

Hydroxychloroquine can lower the number f infection-fighting white blood cells, making it possibly the worst type of medication for anyone trying to fight off an infection. However, in the earliest days of the pandemic, Trump declared the drug a “game changer” and began stockpiling millions of pills. Under pressure from Trump and TV Host Dr. Oz, the FDA authorized emergency use of hydroxychloroquine as a potential treatment for COVID-19. The drug didn’t work. The U.S. ended up with a mountain of worthless pills. And Trump went right on promoting its use long after the FDA officially warned consumers not to use it.

It’s impossible to know how much Trump’s promise that hydroxychloroquine was an effective treatment caused people to disregard the threat of COVID-19 or how much this opened the door to conspiracy theories about vaccines. But a new study in Biomedicine and Pharmacotherapy puts an estimated number on deaths directly resulting from the use of this drug to treat COVID-19 patients: 16,990.

That hydroxychloroquine was more likely to kill than to cure was known very early. A study released just one month after Trump began promoting the drug showed that patients given Trump’s wonder treatment were more likely to die. The treatment was found to have a strong association with heart issues, and the results were so clear and overwhelming that the trial use of the drug was suspended ahead of schedule.

Those same results have now been confirmed by researchers in France who looked at the use of hydroxychloroquine across six countries. In all cases, the use of the drug with COVID-19 patients increased the rate of deaths. Overall, patients who were administered hydroxychloroquine were 11% more likely to die than those who were not.

Of course, there was one brilliant paper later cited by Trump that concluded treatment with hydroxychloroquine “improves survival by over 100%” even though 78% of the people in the study died. That’s science, people. Science that shockingly never made it into an actual peer-reviewed journal.

Due to the level of promotion hydroxychloroquine received, that 11% increased rate of death extends across millions of patients, both in the U.S. and overseas. In some locations, as many as 84% of patients diagnosed with symptomatic COVID-19 were prescribed hydroxychloroquine. The result is that an estimated 16,990 people died unnecessarily.

As scientists behind the study conclude, the story of hydroxychloroquine and COVID-19 illustrates “the hazard of drug repurposing with low-level evidence.” But it wasn’t the only time Trump declared that something unrelated would provide a cure for COVID-19. Trump also promoted the horse deworming medicine ivermectin, which led to a run on the treatment at farm supply stores. Trump also pushed the use of convalescent plasma before any trials had shown it was effective.

The plasma idea, unlike the use of a malaria drug or horse paste, at least had the benefit of being based on a somewhat reasonable theory. However, it still didn’t work. And, as should go without saying, neither did the de-wormer.

Because Donald Trump can never be wrong, plenty of other Republicans were happy to hop on the quack medicine train. That included Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis. For his new surgeon general, DeSantis went straight to hydroxychloroquine promoter, anti-masker, and anti-vaccine guy Dr. Joseph Ladapo. Lapado was back in the news this week after he appeared on Steve Bannon’s show to tell people to stop getting vaccinated. Because mRNA vaccines are an affront to God. “DeSantis’ Florida Surgeon General Dr. Joseph Ladapo says covid mRNA vaccines “the Anti-Christ of all products… That’s so wrong, you know, it’s just complete disrespect to the human genome and the importance of protecting it and preserving it, and that is our connection to God.”

What a load of garbage. No amount of lies, stupidity, and causing nearly another 17,000 covid deaths is enough to wake up idiots wearing MAGA hats.
Donald Trump began shilling for the use of hydroxy... (show quote)


Are you a doctor or just a loudmouth? I vote the latter!

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Jan 6, 2024 12:43:13   #
Rose42
 
permafrost wrote:
https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavirus-outbreak/story/why-hcq-ivermectin-dropped-india-covid-treatment-protocol-1857306-2021-09-25?onetap=true

Why HCQ and Ivermectin were removed from India’s Covid-19 treatment protocol
Ivermectin and HCQ were dropped from the clinical guidance after studies found that these drugs have little to no effect on Covid-related mortality or clinical recovery of the patient.

New Delhi,UPDATED: Sep 26, 2021 07:18 IST
The Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) and the National Task Force on Covid-19 have dropped the use of Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) drugs from their revised guidelines for the treatment of the infection.

The decision was taken after experts found that these drugs have little to no effect on Covid-related mortality or clinical recovery of the patient.

“HCQ may be considered for removal from guideline, with recommendation to use with caution only in clinical trial setting (since there is some genuine uncertainty regarding the possible benefit for severe cases and in low dose),” said the document titled ‘considerations for exclusion of Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine from the clinical guidance for management of adult Covid-19 patients’.
https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavirus-outbreak/sto... (show quote)


Not accurate about ivermectin.

Its been used in the US too. The MSM will never cover it but you can find doctors who know what they’re doing.

Don’t be so quick to believe what you’re fed. There is big money at stake

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