Bruce Kennedy wrote:
So basically you know nothing about 21st century politics. The Tea Party, basically formed in 2009, in response to the passage of the ACA. There are all sorts of individuals who say the Tea Party's roots harken back as far as the 1860's. And others who credit Ron Paul's movement, in 2007, as the beginning of the "Tea Party". But really it began in 2009 when Obama was elected. At no time did you ever see a "Tea Party" demonstration against GW's rampant spending. No Tea Party demonstration against GW's TARP, the bail out of Wall Street. There were many demonstrations when Obama issued the second TARP. Now I realized that the first stated goals, of the "Tea Party", were to "balance the budget", curb government spending. But the ACA really was borne out of the Federal budget deficit problem. When the ACA was first proposed the number one issue in Congress, at the time, was the Federal budget deficit. And the notion, among many, at that time, was the number one contributor to the Federal budget deficit was, and was going to be, the issue of health care. Primarily Medicare and Medicaid. I don't think initially there was much disagreement that government health costs were quickly becoming the number one contributor to the deficit. But when Democrats and the Obama administration introduced the ACA, as a way to ultimately curb government spending for Medicare and Medicaid, Republicans went nuts. And of course began their obstructionist tactics. At first to block the ACA. But it was clearly the "Tea Party" that took obstructionism to a new level with their "No Compromise" policy, plain and simple. The concept of "No compromise" was never a Democratic idea. Yet you, like most other good little Conservatives, ignore that the fact that the use of obstructionism began with Republicans, as soon as Obama took office, in 2009. In fact hypocritical Republicans take pride in pointing how GW got things done in a bipartisan manner. That's because Democrats were willing to compromise. So the average intelligence individual needs to ask him or herself why were things getting done, in the Bush administration, and not in the Obama administration? It doesn't take an Einstein to figure that Republicans refuse to pass any legislation, unless it complied 100%, with their wishes, "no compromise". Now once Republicans, along with the "Tea Party", started to obstruct every bit of legislation that came out of Obama's administration, the Democrats naturally reacted with the same tactics, a sort of quid pro quo. The Republicans were the first to set this political tone and they even admitted it, on the Senate floor, when McConnell publically stated that the Republican's only goal, in Obama's first term, was to make Obama a "one term President". And the way they planned to do that was to screw the American public and sabotage the American economy, because they felt sure that if the economy was in disarray, the American people would vote for a Republican. Well of course the American public knew the Republicans were screwing them. And that gets us back to the issue of the mid term elections, in 2010, when the Republicans took control of the House of Representatives. They, and handful of newly elected "Tea Party" members, implemented their "No compromise" tactics and they have been screwing the American public ever since. And make no mistake about it, the "Tea Party" is calling the shots, for the Republican Party. Cantor and his cabal sabotaged any efforts Boehner made to compromise. Interestingly enough the "Tea Party" eats its own. Cantor said something blasphemous about Immigration reform and is now working at McDonalds. :)
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Do you know what a POAC is. Not only are you arrogant, condescending, and, but one of the larger POACs on the site. pretentious
http://usconservatives.about.com/od/gettinginvolved/f/Is-The-Tea-Party-Just-A-Response-To-President-Barack-Obamas-Election.htmIs the Tea Party Just a Response to President Barack Obama's Election?Tea Party members often say that they want to restore fiscal responsibility, but when President George W. Bush approved the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) and said the free market must be abandoned to preserve the free market, where were they? Why did the Tea Party only emerge a month after President Barack Obama took office?
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The Left would have everyone believe the Tea Party simply sprung up one day in 2009 in direct response to the inauguration of President Obama. The implication, of course, is that since it allegedly formed out of opposition to Obama, it must then be a movement founded by racists.
The reality, however, is that the individual components that led to the formation of the Tea Party had been simmering for years. Well before Obama even announced his intention to run for office, many conservatives were privately murmuring their disapproval about the direction the federal government was headed under President Bush. By 2004, many conservatives had become disenchanted with Bush, especially after sending him into office on a wave of "compassionate conservatism" in 2000. By 2006, the dissonance turned into frustration, and by 2008, the frustration was beginning to boil over into anger.
If conservatives had been annoyed with President Bush for using 9/11 to undertake one of the largest expansions of executive power in U.S. history, they became even more upset when the newly elected Democratic Congress began to expand the entire government at an exponential pace in 2006.
For many conservatives, President Barack Obama's inauguration was indeed a cause for concern, but not because of his race. In the month and a half leading up to the historic event, Obama had been publicly calling for a massive spending package to stoke the growth of the economy. Conservatives were doubtful that additional spending was the answer to the nation's economic woes. Only after it became clear that Obama and Congressional Democrats were not going to reach across the aisle as the president had promised, and indeed were intent on forcing the stimulus package on the American people regardless of their wishes, did the first vestiges of the Tea Party begin to form. The first protest -- held on Tax Day in 2009 -- was in direct response to the $787 billion spending plan approved on Feb. 14 of that year.Many of these same people were privately chuckling when the Left began to call the demonstrations against ObamaCare "astroturfing." Many of the same people involved in organizing those events were simply citizen-activists, who were completely unaffiliated with multi-national insurance companies or other well-financed special interests. The more their efforts were mocked by Democratic leaders, the more furious their desire became to organize. Not finding the reception they were looking for from an increasingly disconnected Republican Party, these people found what they needed in the loosely-formed Tea Party organizations.
Did President Barack Obama have a role in helping the formation of the Tea Party? Absolutely. Was he the sole reason for its inception? No.
http://usconservatives.about.com/od/gettinginvolved/f/Is-The-Tea-Party-Really-Committed-To-Cutting-Spending.htmIs the Tea Party Really Committed to Cutting Spending?Liberals often criticize members of the Tea Party for saying they favor of spending cuts, but failing to mention what they would cut specifically. Are they really committed to spending? Or is this just empty rhetoric designed to appease and motivate the conservative base.
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Very often, this question is followed up with a second part; it goes something like this:
With the nation involved in two wars, and a military budget that makes up a majority of the nation's expenditures, why don't Tea Party members want to cut military spending? The Tea Party talks about cutting education spending, but that's only 4% of the overall budget. Why not start with the military.
Both questions demonstrate an inherent lack of constitutional knowledge on the part of the questioner.
When asked about spending cuts, most Tea Party members will offer an answer that sounds absolutely preposterous to liberals and anyone else who values the status quo in the era of entitlements. Tea Party members will say something along the lines of "I'd start by eliminating the Department of Education, or the Department of Agriculture."
The reason departments like these are mentioned is because there is no reference to these types of agencies in the Constitution, which means that the specific area of governance which falls under these agencies' purview should be relegated to individual states.
Take the Department of Education for example. The federal government allocates 4% of the federal budget to the agency, and establishes a multitude of laws identifying what should be taught and how it should be taught, yet nowhere in the Constitution does it say that educating America's children is the responsibility of the U.S. government.
This is not to say that the public has no responsibility to educate its children, however. This simply means that the area of education is a responsibility of individual states, as Article X of the Bill of Rights says, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
Tea Party members use this amendment as their guide to locate spending cuts. Since the Constitution does expressly identify the protection and security of the United States as a responsibility of the federal government, Tea Party members don't see massive military spending cuts as particularly wise (although there is always room for improvement and spending reductions). The departments of education, agriculture, and other agencies and programs such as the National Endowment for the Arts, however, are prime candidates for dramatic budget cuts, because the constitution does not expressly identify them as the U.S. government's responsibilities.
Yes, Tea Party members are committed to federal spending cuts. While some may see cutting the Department of Education from the national budget as extreme, the reality is that it would provide some immediate benefits. Not only would it free up federal tax dollars and eliminate complicated and unnecessary bureaucracy, it would return the onus for public education back to where it belongs: to the states and local governments that know their communities best.
It's important to acknowledge also, however, that not all Tea Party members wish to completely eliminate the aforementioned departments. Some simply believe that each of them should be scoured for as many cuts as possible.