The 14th amendment and how it's applying to Trump
Dec 20, 2023 19:46:46 #
Dec 20, 2023 19:49:57 #
Dec 21, 2023 01:54:13 #
Liberty Tree wrote:
First, it has to be proven there was an insuurrection.
The FBI said there was no insurrection.
Dec 21, 2023 07:57:33 #
XXX wrote:
Does the 14th amendment include the president?
Some Constitutional scholars say no.
Dec 21, 2023 08:09:55 #
Kevyn wrote:
A court determined he was, he argued it didn’t apply to him and lost.
First if the court determined he was then when and where was he charged? Don't you have to be charged with a crime first before it even comes before the court?
What does the 14th amendment say about taking a candidate off of a ballot ? Nothing. What does the 14th amendment say about who has been given authority to keep a person from holding office? The congress not the courts. But the courts can change that decision that congress makes. From what I have read the 14th amendment allows congress to not allow a person to hold office because of participation in rebellion against the government but nothing about not allowing said person to be on an election ballot or running for office. So how can this amendment be applied to keeping anyone off a ballot or running for office??
Dec 21, 2023 08:54:38 #
Dec 21, 2023 09:21:10 #
Liberty Tree wrote:
Some Constitutional scholars say no.
I say it don't. It don't say anything about the president .......
Dec 21, 2023 10:57:09 #
Liberty Tree wrote:
When was he charged with the crime of insurrection and found guilty? The pre- conceived opinion of a biased, hate Trump, leftist judge does not count.
They say English is the hardest language to learn. Once you have it down Kevynspeak is easy. There’s only one additional rule.
Dec 21, 2023 12:03:13 #
Knightlady wrote:
https://constitution.findlaw.com/amendment14/annotation15.html
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I'm amazed at the broader ignorance or willful stupidity of any person pridefully claiming J-6 was an "Insurection". They struggle with understanding our American English language.
Insurrection definition;An insurrection is an armed rebellion. A revolt is a rebellion with an aim to replace a government, authority figure, law, or policy. If a government does not recognize rebels as belligerents then they are insurgents and the revolt is an insurgency.
Unless we missed the "armed , organized and coordinated attack"
Surprisingly the FBI post investigation, supported that there was not an insurrection, by way of a press statement release.
Zombie, brain dead, brainwashed accept and believe what partyline dictates.
Dec 21, 2023 12:17:27 #
jack sequim wa wrote:
I'm amazed at the broader ignorance or willful st... (show quote)
When the rest of the footage is looked at it becomes clear who was armed, organized and coordinated
Dec 21, 2023 13:12:16 #
Michael Roy wrote:
When the rest of the footage is looked at it becomes clear who was armed, organized and coordinated
There is enough damming evidence against Pelosi, Schumer, Pence on the scripted calls, two takes filmed and recorded.
Dec 21, 2023 13:28:09 #
jack sequim wa wrote:
There is enough damming evidence against Pelosi, Schumer, Pence on the scripted calls, two takes filmed and recorded.
True. How long until the ball gets rolling?
Dec 21, 2023 14:09:36 #
Kevyn wrote:
A court determined he was, he argued it didn’t apply to him and lost.
A court cannot pass judgement without due process for Trump. The only legal way that they could prevent Trump from becoming the President again is by being convicted by the Senate from Impeachment. Trump was NOT convicted for inciting an Insurrection.
https://www.vox.com/22220495/impeachment-trump-2024-election-bar-from-office
If the impeached official is CONVICTED, the Senate then must decide what sanction to impose upon that official. Under the Constitution, “judgment in cases of impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States.” So the Senate effectively must decide whether merely removing the official from office is an appropriate sanction, or whether permanent disqualification is warranted.
Dec 21, 2023 18:35:07 #
Michael Roy wrote:
True. How long until the ball gets rolling?
It's rolling with 144,000 hours capital hours of documented truth, released by our leader of the law makers.
Pelosi is so old, time it takes to convict her, she will be dead.
Eventually those convicted of crimes at the capital will be released, and paid. Unless the 2024 election is a repeat of 2020 and I expect multiple false flags allowing a steal.
Dec 21, 2023 20:26:47 #
Knightlady wrote:
That is one of the things the parties are arguing about. It's written so vaguely and never used for an acting or former president. In fact it hasn't even really been thought of until recently.
There was an earlier version written that included the President and VP, it was removed from the final draft. Most constitutional scholars view this as the 14th amendment not covering the POTUS and VP.
At least in things I've read.
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