microphor Loc: Home is TN

If, like our lefties keep saying, even Trump shouldn't have taken them home with him, how did Biden get them out of the SKIF and have them for years with no one coming to collect them. Could it be that there was no trail because he "borrowed them without permission" ahahahahaha. Doesn't make sense for a Senator to have these same documents for "Yearssssssss" without question, let alone him no securing them "at all".

Haski123

I said clearly both Biden and Pence should have the incidents investigated. The point that neither of the two seemed to know that they had the classified information until they examined their stored materials, is an indicator they were not shared, security. Of them and harm or potential harm would be part of the investigation. For all we know the DOJ is currently investigating Biden & Pence handling of classified documents found.
The minimization is how each handled the incident.
Trump knew he had the documents, Trump felt they were his, Trump had to be subpoenaed to turn them over, he had far more documents than Biden or Pence. He kept documents back that were requested on subpoena, and had his lawyers send a letter stating all documents were returned(Lawyer testimony stated Trump was told if he didn’t return the documents requested in the subpoena Trump would be breaking the law. Etc. vs Biden and Pence fully and quickly complied with return of documents once found.
While you say I’m trying to minimize Biden/Pence actions, you appear to make all three equal-only having classified documents in an insecure location is similar, the rest is not!

microphor Loc: Home is TN

Yet you declared what they "didn't" do with them when you don't know and can't know in any of the cases. And you still haven't declared your "rational" to why and how a Senator had documents that are clearly marked as classified in his possession away from a SKIF, I don't know if they are having a hard time creating some or what but after all these months, we still haven't seen "a paper trail" giving a Senator permission to take classified materials home. I can understand how Trump could believe he had the right to have them but not a lowly Senator!!!!

Haski123

Right I haven’t declared my rationale on why Biden or Pence had the documents where they had them. The investigation should discover that and legal system should determine what indictments to bring.

After the fact, are you saying since others were allowed to potentially break the law surely me as President or Ex President can do the same?
Trump clearly knew what he was taking and advised by legal counsel it would be illegal not to fully comply with the subpoenas.-He did not fully comply which could lead to added legal liability.

Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia

Hey skippy, you can stop comparing apples to oranges anytime. Trump may or may not have possessed the documents legally, Biden and pence had ABSOLUTELY NO right to possess them!

Haski123

All are innocent until proven guilty. All potentially broke the law, at this point there are only indictments for misdeed’s to Trump. Time will tell on the others. If it’s so clear I would expect indictments against Biden and Pence as well. So at this time you are correct, it is apples and oranges- Trump is indicated/ charged, Biden and Pence are not to date. Time will tell who’s indicted, who’s found guilty or innocent. If all are found guilty, the amount of documents, and lack of cooperation should incur stiffer penalties. If found innocent all a mute point.

When I handled confidential information I had to sign it out, view in secure location and return . Each release was logged. Onerous process but no lost or misplaced confidential information. The Government needs to enhance current process to ensure traceable with audit trails.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

But, but, but, but Marty, they get to make excuses for Biden, and what's his name,according to the DNC's Fairness Doctrine. 😂🤣

fullspinzoo

You've been destroyed by over 100 people on OPP. Now, #STFU!!!!!!!!!!

Radiance3

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President Trump is the best candidate who can save this country. I am amazed by his courage, dedications, and struggles facing all the civil rights taken away from him. He'd sworn to stand behind us to keep our freedom.

Stupid and dumb Biden and his team have all the desires to transform America to a communist state, to hold power forever. Dumb as he is, I think Biden has a mentor, driving his brain, like a horse to where we are going.

Donald Trump is on their way, on front of them, a hindrance. Trump will never allow them to take away our freedom.

These Marxists are doing all they could since 2016, convicting Trump without crime, disregarding all his constitutional rights. I really think Trump won the 2020 election, with all the evidences that came out. I truly think Biden was not the elected president in 2020. Now, forced into our lives, he is the worst nightmare that happen since the history of this country begun.

What an insult to the hearts and minds of the American people who fought, sacrificed and died protecting the freedom, this country was founded upon. Now these Communists are taking it away from us by force.

Whatever verdict they have put against Trump, are the same verdict they put to all of us. We are all victims. These Marxists are taking away the birth right of this nation.

At all costs, all of us must support and put back the duly elected president Donald Trump to fight for us and protect our lives, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. This country was born a Christian nation. These are the rights given to us by God, the rights we will carry and hand to our generations forever.

May God bless America, and Donald Trump this Christmas, and always.!

fullspinzoo

Great post, Radiance! One of your best!

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Radiance3, you do us proud. Conservative ladies are a tremendous strength, inspiration, guide and comfort to all humanity.

Haski123

She’s been supported by many as well on OPP. Again with your immoral demeaning words and bullying. Your hate rhetoric does support civil discussion of the issues.

Hateful, demeaning divisive language is part of the reason no civil discussion, no understanding of other position and no compromise.

We are all individuals who care about our country, we just have differing views of what’s best, those views cannot even be shared if because of political beliefs one is put in a box, all are the same and not listened to, then demeaned with bullying and hateful rhetoric. This immoral hate, and disrespect of others is the biggest threat to our democratic republic. Trump didn’t start it but he pours gas on the fire everyday.

Your swearing, name calling and bullying is non value add, inappropriate, immoral and not appreciated.

XXX Loc: Somewhere north of the Mason-Dixon

What the shit do we care what you say? Miloses can barely offer a coherent sentence sort of like your boy Biden. Whoever voted for Biden is to blame for f**king up our country and your a downright hypocrite if you say you love it!

albertk

Haski123

Clearly by your comments about not caring what others think , is a big problem along with the hatred, divisiveness and lack of civil discussion and understanding on issues on this forum and in our country today.

One partisan view is all that is acceptable vs mutual understanding of each others views and acceptance of common ground and agreement with understanding even in Frits agreement to disagree.