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Dec 18, 2023 15:03:12   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Justice101 wrote:
Ivermectin comes in pill form, and I have no need to take it or anything else for a mild virus such as Covid.

India was very successful in using it for their people.


Sure, not a big deal. only killed about a million and half americans..

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Dec 18, 2023 15:27:44   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
permafrost wrote:
Sure, not a big deal. only killed about a million and a half Americans.



1,143 ivermectin exposure cases, not deaths.
The troubling trend has been on the rise since the start of 2021 — despite warnings from state health officials and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention against taking ivermectin. The NPDS says 1,143 ivermectin exposure cases were reported between Jan. 1 and Aug. 31. That marks an increase of 163% over the same period last year.
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/09/04/1034217306/ivermectin-overdose-exposure-cases-poison-control-centers

The NIH updated its clinical guidelines in late April of this year to recommend “against the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19, except in clinical trials.”
Prior to that, it had stated that there was “insufficient evidence” to recommend for or against the use of the drug as a COVID-19 treatment.
A large study investigating potential repurposed treatments for COVID-19 has found no benefit for ivermectin in reducing a person’s risk of being hospitalized or dying from the disease, according to a preprint posted by the researchers on medRxiv yesterday (June 12). The randomized placebo-controlled trial included more than 1,500 people and adds to a growing body of research suggesting the antiparasitic drug is unlikely to be effective at staving off disease progression.
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/no-reduction-in-covid-19-hospitalizations-deaths-with-ivermectin-70119

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Dec 18, 2023 15:40:46   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
America 1 wrote:
1,143 ivermectin exposure cases, not deaths.
The troubling trend has been on the rise since the start of 2021 — despite warnings from state health officials and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention against taking ivermectin. The NPDS says 1,143 ivermectin exposure cases were reported between Jan. 1 and Aug. 31. That marks an increase of 163% over the same period last year.
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/09/04/1034217306/ivermectin-overdose-exposure-cases-poison-control-centers

The NIH updated its clinical guidelines in late April of this year to recommend “against the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19, except in clinical trials.”
Prior to that, it had stated that there was “insufficient evidence” to recommend for or against the use of the drug as a COVID-19 treatment.
A large study investigating potential repurposed treatments for COVID-19 has found no benefit for ivermectin in reducing a person’s risk of being hospitalized or dying from the disease, according to a preprint posted by the researchers on medRxiv yesterday (June 12). The randomized placebo-controlled trial included more than 1,500 people and adds to a growing body of research suggesting the antiparasitic drug is unlikely to be effective at staving off disease progression.
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/no-reduction-in-covid-19-hospitalizations-deaths-with-ivermectin-70119
1,143 ivermectin exposure cases, not deaths. br Th... (show quote)


I think my post was poorly done.. I as talking about Covid deaths, nothing about deaths from ivermectin

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Dec 18, 2023 16:08:09   #
Justice101
 
permafrost wrote:
Sure, not a big deal. only killed about a million and half americans..


People with comorbidities most likely.
How many people died from an experimental "vaccine" for Covid, that didn't keep people from catching it or spreading the virus?

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Dec 18, 2023 16:15:10   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Justice101 wrote:
People with comorbidities most likely.
How many people died from an experimental "vaccine" for Covid, that didn't keep people from catching it or spreading the virus?


This is a tender topic for me.. 7 people, good friends and one family member died of covid.. only one was vaccinated.. I am dropping this thread.. think what you want..

The vac killed people? if so only a very few. People have even died of the most common of vacs.. but take your chance. what ever you do, make it what you believe is best..for you.. do not try and force others to follow your chosen path. Let them choose their own..

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Dec 18, 2023 16:48:14   #
EmilyD
 
Justice101 wrote:
People with comorbidities most likely.
How many people died from an experimental "vaccine" for Covid, that didn't keep people from catching it or spreading the virus?


That's the sneaky part of this "vaccine"....it kills indirectly. It attacks weaknesses in the body (such as a weak heart, cancer in remission, infections, etc.) and THAT is what is used as the cause of death instead of the real culprit: the vaccine. In many cases, an autopsy is needed to determine that it was the drugs from the Covid vaccine that attacked the weakness in the body that led to the person's death. Big Pharma would never admit this, and they have lobbied the medical community to keep quiet about it or they will be subject to the consequences - such as losing their license to practice - their livelihood.

To get an autopsy done on someone who has died you have to ask the doctor who treated the person in the hospital before they died. The doctor than has to get approval from the hospital to have the autopsy ordered, and it must be done within 24 hours of death, or it is denied. Insurance usually does not cover them, and neither does Medicare/Medicaid. Doctors have been told to discourage people from requesting autopsies because they take time, cost money and it is usually a financial loss for the institution. So requesting an autopsy to see if it was the vaccine that caused the death is usually denied. About 8% of deaths in the US are autopsied.

As a result, we will never know how many people have died from the Covid vaccine. When my brother died in 2021, the hospital was going to put Covid as his death. My sister, an RN, said she was sure our brother had tested negative for Covid. He got the shot at the end of April and died three weeks later. When he was admitted to the hospital, he was having seizures and going in and out of consciousness. It turned out he was having a series of mini strokes from blood clots in his brain....NOT a symptom of Covid. So my sister "convinced" the hospital to do an autopsy. They found out that he did not have any signs of ever having Covid, and that his death was now considered an adverse reaction to the vaccine drugs, and his death certificate reflects that....now. But it was like pulling teeth to get the autopsy. We had to get a lawyer, and the hospital demanded payment for it beforehand, since we were challenging the cause of death. People are not going to want to go through that whole song and dance for an autopsy - there are too many hurdles to get over, and it costs thousands of dollars, you probably have to hire an attorney and other things that aren't covered by insurance.

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Dec 18, 2023 17:07:45   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
permafrost wrote:
This is a tender topic for me.. 7 people, good friends and one family member died of covid.. only one was vaccinated.. I am dropping this thread.. think what you want..

The vac killed people? if so only a very few. People have even died of the most common of vacs.. but take your chance. what ever you do, make it what you believe is best..for you.. do not try and force others to follow your chosen path. Let them choose their own..


Treatment from remdesivir likely killed those you care for.
Fauci, standard of care

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Dec 18, 2023 18:42:59   #
Justice101
 
permafrost wrote:
This is a tender topic for me.. 7 people, good friends and one family member died of covid.. only one was vaccinated.. I am dropping this thread.. think what you want..

The vac killed people? if so only a very few. People have even died of the most common of vacs.. but take your chance. what ever you do, make it what you believe is best..for you.. do not try and force others to follow your chosen path. Let them choose their own..


One of my best friends died from getting a Covid booster. I don't tell others what to do with their own health. I'm not a physician.

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Dec 18, 2023 18:44:09   #
BIRDMAN
 
permafrost wrote:
It is only one example of how trump took the economy, started by President obama which was the longest growth ever on record. lasted 10 years and gutted, starting with trumps trade wars which I gave an example..

You need to remember that the world does not end at the edge of your yard anymore... the economy was starting to unravel in late 2019....


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Dec 18, 2023 19:00:15   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Trump said drink bleach .
Ivermectin is animal dewormer .
Now ,
It’s you who is lying .
Because you were told lies.
Trump has publicly stated both as cures for Covid.
And a few may have even died from drinking bleach.
Google
Trump said —
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zicGxU5MfwE


Ewe are really showing yourself off as massively stupid today.
***Ivermectin is animal dewormer .
>>>It is also an inexpensive drug with many uses, one of which is as a de-wormer and another is a very successful drug in the fight against Covid and with virtually ZERO side effects as opposed to those phony shots that don't work for shit for their intended purpose and are killing and maiming people from hours to weeks and even years after they were administered. Often by mandate against federal law for experimental drugs.

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Dec 18, 2023 19:02:13   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Milosia2 wrote:
This is documented truth.
Factual and well documented.
Spin all you want , it only makes you look foolish .


Your record of pointing out documented truth is abysmal at best. You aren't even a good spinner. More like a habitual LIAR. FACT.

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Dec 18, 2023 19:04:42   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
pegw wrote:
I remember when Rex Tillerson Secretary of state, said about Trump "a complete Moron"


Funny. I can remember when the majority of OPP who have expressed them selves to your posts, say the same about you.

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Dec 18, 2023 19:05:53   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
No surprise. If trump's mouth is open, he is lying. That is what he does, constantly.


And if you are typing, you are spreadlng bull schitte.

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Dec 18, 2023 19:08:04   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Why are you lying? Every bit was true. We who lived through it watched it happen. FACT! Don't lie. Someone will start calling you trump.


***Why are you lying?
>>>Ever notice how liars always call us liars when we point out their lies. You are a liar or toatally uninformed.

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Dec 18, 2023 19:52:25   #
Rose42
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Treatment from remdesivir likely killed those you care for.
Fauci, standard of care


Lots of money was made from remdesivir whereas ivermectin is cheap.

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