4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory

Gee that makes all of facts matter post creditably pretty low doesn't it .

EmilyD

Presidents have the right to take classified documents that were used during their administrations. What is not allowed is for a VICE President to do that. I don't know why you don't understand that.

The stock market and infrastructure isn't what most Americans are concerned about right now - having food, clothing and being able to pay the bills is...and fake indictments and convictions mean nothing to the ones who have their eyes open and can see what is happening to them...things that are directly related to Biden....and ONLY Biden.... are making our lives a day-to-day struggle.

60% of Americans work for small businesses. And those small businesses were hit the hardest during the Covid hoax...hundreds of thousands of them closed their doors permanently! Farmers are paying higher interest rates on loans. Credit card debt is soaring and most Middle Class people can't live without adding significantly to their debt. People are paying higher rates for cars and homes. And if they can't afford a mortgage on a house, they can't afford the rent payments, either! A one-bedroom apartment goes for $1400/month now....studio's not much less. The day-to-day workers, the middle class people, very clearly know that things are not anywhere near as good they were during pre-pandemic times...the years when Trump was president.

Things are not "better"... you are lying to yourself if you keep saying it.

EmilyD

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I read that every single President since Regan has taken documents with them when they left office. For some reason no one on the left wants to mention that little tidbit....

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/17/politics/classified-documents-nara-former-presidents/index.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/01/26/classified-trump-archives-biden-pence-bush-presidents-documents/11120142002/

facts matter

So you don't understand the "incumbent President" part? Did you ever learn how to read? Or maybe you don't know what incumbent means? It means the sitting President, not the disgraced ex.

EmilyD

He WAS the incumbent president when he took them. He was the president until January 21, 2021.

Maybe YOU are the one who needs to learn .... how to comprehend. Or maybe it's a dictionary that you need??

Every president since Regan took documents with them. You 'Rats just want to make a mountain out of a little tiny ant hill with this because it is Trump.

XXX Loc: Somewhere north of the Mason-Dixon

facts matter

Once he was out of office the ownership of the documents reverts to the government. HE WAS NO LONGER THE INCUMBENT! Read the dam PRA

XXX Loc: Somewhere north of the Mason-Dixon

EmilyD

YOU read it!!!

The Presidential Records Act of 1978 ""- Establishes in law that any incumbent Presidential records (whether textual or electronic) held on courtesy storage by the Archivist remain in the exclusive legal custody of the President and that any request or order for access to such records must be made to the President, not NARA."

It also says this:

"Establishes a process by which the President may restrict and the public may obtain access to these records after the President leaves office; specifically, the PRA allows for public access to Presidential records through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) beginning five years after the end of the Administration, but allows the President to invoke as many as six specific restrictions to public access for up to twelve years."

https://www.archives.gov/presidential-libraries/laws/1978-act.html

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Haski123

The PRA also says:
Establishes that Presidential records automatically transfer into the legal custody of the Archivist as soon as the President leaves office.

EmilyD

So which one was he supposed to go by? That's the problem!! The part that says the documents are to "remain in the exclusive legal custody of the President" or "automatically transferred to the Archivist"? Which takes priority over the other?

I would do what he did....take exclusive legal custody of the records of my administration because it says that any request or order for access to such records must be made to the President, not NARA. That's pretty clear.

Haski123

It’s clear line while incumbent- in office they are his, when out of office they belong to the archives, he still has access rights but ownership clearly transfers when no longer in office. PRA states” Incumbent president records remain the exclusive legal custody of the president” You missed the incumbent part.

Not sure why this is confusing? PRA is clear on this.

Can’t take out pieces, miss interpret them , then call it ambiguous:
Incumbent- sitting President, he is no longer president he is former President no longer incumbent.

EmilyD

What is clear is that the interpretation of the PRA by Trump’s attorneys is different than the interpretation of his accusers.

That is what this case is about. Even you and I have different interpretations of it.

microphor Loc: Home is TN

Maybe you;re too s..p03 to understand "he was the President when boxed them up and claimed them as his own! DUH!

Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia

Here’s your family picture with your brother bad Bob!