True American: Do you still support Donald Trump? (Page 14): As POTUS what did Trump do that was evil as we understand evil from he who is the father of evil, Satan? Who among us has...

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

jimpack123 wrote:

Padre You accept Evil Trump as good isn't that the pot calling the kettle black. As a man of the cloth you should be ashamed I will pray for you

As POTUS what did Trump do that was evil as we understand evil from he who is the father of evil, Satan? Who among us has not committed evil that we'd not want to be shared before our fellow man? Trump's former sins have purposely been cast before the public by you leftist to intentionally discredit, diminish and destroy him. Turn your twisted wart covered finger back on yourself and pray, "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the Living God, have mercy on me the sinner." I have to pray this simple prayer so many, many many, times every day myself.

EmilyD

jimpack123 wrote:

Padre You accept Evil Trump as good isn't that the pot calling the kettle black. As a man of the cloth you should be ashamed I will pray for you

Who are you to say Trump is evil? You don't know his heart. No one does. Only Trump and God know that.

And even if someone is truly evil (and I am NOT saying that is Trump here), they have the ability to change themselves before they leave this earth.

For you to declare someone - anyone - to be "evil" is pretty arrogant of you, given that they still have time to change that...IF, in fact, they are evil to begin with.

facts matter

The problem, padre, is that trump is unrepentant. He's admitted to never seeking forgiveness, or offering apologies. He has neither humility or empathy. He puts his needs above all others and is not worthy of your admiration.

Haski123

padremike wrote:

I cannot believe how utterly stupid your response ... (show quote)

I read your reference. I understand your input sources. I looked at the 45 goals, many are part of Trumps 2024 plan of action if elected.
Some were implemented during Republican majority some with Democratic majority. Some are not on either platform. So to use this article to say leftist only have passed pro Marxist theory is not accurate, to say CRT is taught at high school level down when it’s only pervasive in college level courses is inaccurate.
Atheists, LGBT, sex change advocates, porn/trans/ drag , are all small % factions of people with beliefs that they are entitled to in USA.

I don’t have to agree with them but of constitution and amendments indicates we should not discriminate against them.

Traditional morals and values have clearly declined in past 60 years. I think many are due to more single parent families, less children getting religion in upbringing. I think many of changes are people coming “out of the closet” and finding others having 5he same beliefs. BLM could be ALM but statistic’s show higher % of violence to blacks than others, our school did investigations and found same for discipline in school, blacks had more punishments and more severe punishments for similar acts vs non blacks. One of the reasons BLM was formed was to highlight these types of excesses.

I don’t believe this is government or schools driving, but individuals just like you and me but that have lost traditional upbringing at home ,church and social interaction ( too much internet vs outdoor activities, too much exposure to radical beliefs, etc.)

Each parent needs to take notice and drive to build sooner morals, truth, character, ethics and religion in kids so they can digest evaluate and cope with Mass Media inputs/ influences.

If you have other thoughts of how to change trend ,love to hear it.

Thanks for sharing.

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

Haski123 wrote:

I’ve told you numerous times it’s a catalog ( 5 million words)and sent you access information. Do a little leg work yourself before you start name calling and making miss statements about “ left post a lie”. It’s out there look it up, too much to cut and paste.

Here is the reference again:
When The Washington Post Fact Checker team first started cataloguing President Donald Trump’s false or misleading claims, we recorded 492 suspect claims in the first 100 days of his presidency. On Nov. 2 alone, the day before the 2020 vote, Trump made 503 false or misleading claims as he barnstormed across the country in a desperate effort to win reelection.
This astonishing jump in falsehoods is the story of Trump’s tumultuous reign. By the end of his term, Trump had accumulated 30,573 untruths during his presidency — averaging about 21 erroneous claims a day.
What is especially striking is how the tsunami of untruths kept rising the longer he served as president and became increasingly unmoored from the truth.
Trump averaged about six claims a day in his first year as president, 16 claims day in his second year, 22 claims day in this third year — and 39 claims a day in his final year. Put another way, it took him 27 months to reach 10,000 claims and an additional 14 months to reach 20,000. He then exceeded the 30,000 mark less than five months later.

Read our full report on the database.
See the pace of Trump’s false claims in this amazing visual graphic.
Visit the Trump claims database website and explore it. The database has an extremely fast search engine that will quickly locate suspect statements made by Trump. Readers can also isolate claims by time period, subject or venue.

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The fact checks in the database amount to about 5 million words and many include links to sources that debunk Trump’s statements.
The Trump claims database was nominated by the Arthur L. Carter Journalism Institute at New York University for inclusion in a list of the Top Ten Works of Journalism of the Decade. “The project is a sterling example of what journalists should do — holding the powerful accountable by using reporting and facts,” the nomination said.

Or you can look up on internet search: WSJ Trump lies catalog

I’ve told you numerous times it’s a catalog ( 5 mi... (show quote)

So who is fact checking, the fact checkers. Oh, because they said they fact checked?

Haski123

padremike wrote:

I cannot believe how utterly stupid your response ... (show quote)

Additional response:
Your source Blaze is a far right ultra conservative bias and is an opinion article by one of Blaze writers.
That said I read it read both left and right media articles and some MSM sources and decide where truth credibility exists.

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

Haski123 wrote:

Trumps own words in his taped interview ( and book... (show quote)

Did I miss something, was Trump found guilty of J6?
Oh wait, 144,000 hours of evert inch inside and outside, cameras of the capital, vindicated Trump.
Was Trump found guilty of lying about election fraud?
Wait, the found 30 voting systems connected to modems, but dominion says there machines cannot be connected to the internet.
Forensic audit t
Released shows mathematical impossibility of irregularities, votes turned from Trump to Biden.

Wake up from your darkness

Haski123

EmilyD wrote:

It's true that for us Christians it is pretty simp... (show quote)

Nice summary. Stepping back is good, finding source for changes happening and what level is good or evil, what level is acceptable or not in a democratic republic and then what can be done to change to more positive flow is a tough question.
To put the burden on Government and Government leaders I don’t think is the entire answer. Ancient Rome tried to regulate morality it didn’t work then and trying to do that now I don’t feel will work either.
I don’t have the answer. I just try to listen, learn, research understand and lead and demonstrate my beliefs by my words and actions.

microphor Loc: Home is TN

padremike wrote:

I cannot believe how utterly stupid your response ... (show quote)

Yelp, that's the Demoncrat party alright!

EmilyD

facts matter wrote:

The problem, padre, is that trump is unrepentant. He's admitted to never seeking forgiveness, or offering apologies. He has neither humility or empathy. He puts his needs above all others and is not worthy of your admiration.

Whether Trump is repentant or not today has nothing to do with you. It has everything to do with Trump and God.....and no one else. Trump's time on earth is not finished, and for you to judge his future based on what he is today is something you are not capable of doing! No one but God can do that.

You arrogant people think you can sit there and tell the world which of us are evil and good! It amazes me that there are people like you who think your 💩 doesn't stink because you believe you know it all!

You don't.

And you should humble yourself with that FACT.

facts matter

EmilyD wrote:

Who are you to say Trump is evil? You don't know his heart. No one does. Only Trump and God know that.

And even if someone is truly evil (and I am NOT saying that is Trump here), they have the ability to change themselves before they leave this earth.

For you to declare someone - anyone - to be "evil" is pretty arrogant of you, given that they still have time to change that...IF, in fact, they are evil to begin with.

I spent the first 65 years of my life living in Brooklyn and Nassau until my retirement earlier this year. Most of you only know of trump since "the apprentice". He's a liar and conman, and never does anything unless there's something in it for him. He feels he is above apologies, forgiveness, and the law. He truly has zero redeeming qualities and is a stain on humanity.

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

facts matter wrote:

Facts aren't opinion, they're facts. I gave you what you asked for.

No you did not, good try.
Fact checkers? Useless and in fact, the number one fact checker site quoted, is a husband and wife, working from home, not a team digging through thousand of pages of documents, or traveling to archives, interviewing and vetting witnesses.
Google has its place, but even Google is filled with fake propaganda.

EmilyD

facts matter wrote:

I spent the first 65 years of my life living in Brooklyn and Nassau until my retirement earlier this year. Most of you only know of trump since "the apprentice". He's a liar and conman, and never does anything unless there's something in it for him. He feels he is above apologies, forgiveness, and the law. He truly has zero redeeming qualities and is a stain on humanity.

It does not matter what he was in the past. It doesn't matter what he is today.

You do not know what is going in in his heart! And you do not know what is going to happen in the future. It is arrogant of you to think you do.... you must think you can predict the future if you can post something like that!! 😂

Haski123

jack sequim wa wrote:

So who is fact checking, the fact checkers. Oh, because they said they fact checked?

Well there are 3-4 different groups doing political fact checking. Facts are facts, alternate facts are lies,
With different groups checking most are consistent, they are all accurate ( unless their info the source is compromised). How many fact checker levels would make you believe?
They also state sources and how they get info, once they start making conclusions or interpretation they would then go beyond just facts.

Example: Trump told us Covid is under control only a few cases and it will go away. At same time he told Bob Woodward this is serious people can die. These two statements don’t match . Facts are he said opposite things to two groups at the same time. Both statements are factually made, one was a known lie at the time.

facts matter

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" George Santayana.
The only tool we have to predict the future, is the past. Maybe you're willing to take a chance on an individual who shows no sign of changing his self serving ways, but I'm not.