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Dec 13, 2023 16:08:48   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
jimpack123 wrote:
what will be your excuse when Trump loses again you have 11 months to come up with one. But if a Republican win I will accept the election and that person will be our POTUs just like Biden is now. period



Or...maybe the right plays the same dirty games and rigs the election.
Whatever, don't mention the dozens of democrats in presidential, state elections that claimed the elections were rigged over the last few decades. Oops, it is only wrong when the right makes that claim, right slick?

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Dec 13, 2023 16:29:28   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
WEBCO wrote:
So states illegally changing voting laws is wrong?

How about the suppression of Hunters laptop? The FBI knew it was authentic in 2019.

Mail out ballots to bloated voter roles?

No signature verification on mail in ballots.

The evidence is so overwhelming that any half wit knows it wasn't a secure or fair election


Every case heard in court found no evidence of what you claim. And there has been not adjudication of the claim that states changed things illegally. Therefore, that would be an opinion until ruled illegal. No, your evidence is not overwhelming. It is pure conjecture from a partisan mind. And only a half wit would believe your premise.

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Dec 13, 2023 16:34:42   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Every case heard in court found no evidence of what you claim. And there has been not adjudication of the claim that states changed things illegally. Therefore, that would be an opinion until ruled illegal. No, your evidence is not overwhelming. It is pure conjecture from a partisan mind. And only a half wit would believe your premise.


Hardly any cases were heard. They werenโ€™t taken up because of standing. Read the State constitutions. You will find that only the state legislature has the power to change voting regulations. Governorโ€™s used Covid as an excuse to by pass the legislative branch by siting emergency powers. Those are the facts. Youโ€™re just a dumba**!!

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Dec 13, 2023 16:42:50   #
pegw
 
The fraud perpetrated on Americans is the Big Lie. Trump got millions to believe it without a shred of evidence, that the safest and most accurate election was fixed.

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Dec 13, 2023 17:04:25   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Every case heard in court found no evidence of what you claim. And there has been not adjudication of the claim that states changed things illegally. Therefore, that would be an opinion until ruled illegal. No, your evidence is not overwhelming. It is pure conjecture from a partisan mind. And only a half wit would believe your premise.


Back to 101 basics, the courts refuses to look at evidence, only refusing to hear cases.

What about the 500 ++ million lawsuit against fox for misinformation, saying the election using dominion machines was fixed? Blackrock sued fox, that owns fox and dominion machines. Kinda like you suing your wife, putting the money into your joint account.
Then how about the 30 dominion systems they just discovered hooked up to modems? Dominion claimed that was impossible, right?

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Dec 13, 2023 17:06:52   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
DASHY wrote:
Trump still uses claims of voter fraud to explain his BIG loss in 2020. If the 1,085 survey respondents were asked to state their preferred source of political news, the poll might be more revealing about how voters feel about mail-in voting.


And well he should since that is the reason he lost; election fraud perpetrated by the democrats.

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Dec 13, 2023 17:42:25   #
debeda
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Demonic lead, spiritual blindness, makes truth lies, lies truth, bitter sweet, sweet bitter.
I believe it is crystal clear how the true liberal/leftist/progressives see lies as truth and truth as lies. Why the man made "climate" change is truth despite science, why Trump is a dictator and will destroy our democracy, despite his over a hundred positive America first policies, why guns need to be banned , despite the highest gun murder rates in gun free zones, lowest gun murder rates in open carry no permit required zones, why Hollywood includes gays scenes in nearly every movie, even though the population of gays is arguably 1.5% or less of the population, taught in schools as normal an is half the population, despite the same hate God/Christians whom are non violent, lgbtq is violent, but non violent Christians are on Obama/Biden terrorism list.
Why conservatives are the number one threat to America, despite it was liberals attacking conservatives, burning down cities, killing, looting

And how many dozens of more examples can be given?
Demonic lead, spiritual blindness, makes truth lie... (show quote)


Well said! BRAVO๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ

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Dec 13, 2023 17:42:39   #
debeda
 
Peaver Bogart wrote:
They want to take our guns, because we would shoot 'em for what they plan to do.


Yup

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Dec 13, 2023 17:44:50   #
debeda
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Or...maybe the right plays the same dirty games and rigs the election.
Whatever, don't mention the dozens of democrats in presidential, state elections that claimed the elections were rigged over the last few decades. Oops, it is only wrong when the right makes that claim, right slick?


Pfft. Plus I'm from Illinois. Elections here have been rigged for at least 75 years.

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Dec 13, 2023 17:45:49   #
debeda
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Every case heard in court found no evidence of what you claim. And there has been not adjudication of the claim that states changed things illegally. Therefore, that would be an opinion until ruled illegal. No, your evidence is not overwhelming. It is pure conjecture from a partisan mind. And only a half wit would believe your premise.

There were no cases heard in court. Not one. All were refused for procedural standards (translation, chicken judges)

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Dec 13, 2023 17:50:27   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
debeda wrote:
There were no cases heard in court. Not one. All were refused for procedural standards (translation, chicken judges)


Wonder if people like Nicky bothered to watch legislative hearings on voting irregularities on C-SPAN? I did watch and listened to hours and hours of real Americans under oath say the witnessed cheating. I tend to believe American workers over partisan bureaucrats.

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Dec 13, 2023 18:33:23   #
debeda
 
JFlorio wrote:
Wonder if people like Nicky bothered to watch legislative hearings on voting irregularities on C-SPAN? I did watch and listened to hours and hours of real Americans under oath say the witnessed cheating. I tend to believe American workers over partisan bureaucrats.

Absolutely!

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Dec 13, 2023 18:53:27   #
Number One
 
Kevyn wrote:
Due to the pandemic states encouraged absentee voting driving the total number of voters up. There is absolutely no evidence that absentee voting is any more fraudulent than in person voting. Voter fraud is statistically of no significance in national elections and is aggressively prosecuted. Trump lost because a wide majority of American voters were embarrassed and offended by his vulgar clown like behavior, criminality and failed policy.


Trump did not have any failed policy. Biden has ten of them.

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Dec 13, 2023 19:03:37   #
LostAggie66 Loc: Corpus Christi, TX (Shire of Seawinds)
 
jimpack123 wrote:
what will be your excuse when Trump loses again you have 11 months to come up with one. But if a Republican win I will accept the election and that person will be our POTUs just like Biden is now. period


Exactly jimpack. If the GOP win then they win Period! 4yrs of seeing what happens, Is the 2025 Plan enacted? (The Freedom Foundation is the group who came up with this...Right?) Will a GOP POTUS work with what may be a Democratic Congress? Will the GOP go after political opponents? Beyond Day 1 what happens? under a Pres Trump term of office(If he is the candidate)? What are the Plans of Ambassador Haley or Mr Ramaswami if they are the winners?

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Dec 13, 2023 19:12:08   #
ed4short Loc: New Hampshire
 
Kevyn wrote:
Due to the pandemic states encouraged absentee voting driving the total number of voters up. There is absolutely no evidence that absentee voting is any more fraudulent than in person voting. Voter fraud is statistically of no significance in national elections and is aggressively prosecuted. Trump lost because a wide majority of American voters were embarrassed and offended by his vulgar clown like behavior, criminality and failed policy.


The final tally is at the hands of the vote COUNTERS, not the voters.
Plus all the elected officials who turned their back, and Pence, who is a weak link under pressure.
Mail in ballots should NEVER be allowed, except overseas military personnel. Covid excuse was a sham at best.
WAKE UP AMERICA

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